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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / September 2006Obese women less likely to breastfeed their infants - Study
Obese mums 'breastfeed less' September 19, 2006, http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20437786-29277,00.html OVERWEIGHT and obese women are less likely than normal-weight women to keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an Australian study shows. Dr Wendy Hazel Oddy of the Telethon Institute for Child Health Research in Perth and colleagues looked at 1803 children and their mothers who took part in a large pregnancy study. Eighteen per cent of the women were overweight or obese before becoming pregnant. After the researchers adjusted for factors including socioeconomic status and years of education, they found that women who were overweight or obese were less apt to attempt breastfeeding at all and those that did were less likely to continue breastfeeding. Obese women were about twice as likely to have breastfed for less than two months or less than four months, while overweight women were 52 per cent more likely than normal weight women to have stopped breastfeeding before two months, and 62 per cent more likely to have stopped before four months. Overall, the researchers found, overweight or obese women were 76 per cent more likely to stop breastfeeding before their infants were six months old than their normal weight peers. A number of factors could help explain the findings, the investigators said. For example, excess weight may change a woman's hormonal profile, making sustained lactation more difficult, or it may be harder for an infant to "latch on" to breast tissue if the mother is overweight or obese. The researchers also report that overweight and obese women were more likely to have pregnancy complications and C-sections than normal-weight women. http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20867,20437786-29277,00.html > Obese mums 'breastfeed less' > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an > Australian study shows. Excuse me? Around six months those baby teeth start coming in. If you want to breastfeed then...well, let the daddy do it. Good grief. Teething isn't a problem in a healthy nursing relationship. Normal nursing relationships often last two years or more, and I assure you those women are not staggering around nippleless due to bites. Kris > > Obese mums 'breastfeed less' > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Excuse me? Around six months those baby teeth start coming in. If you > want to breastfeed then...well, let the daddy do it. Good grief. > Obese mums 'breastfeed less' > > OVERWEIGHT and obese women are less likely than normal-weight women to > keep breastfeeding their infants for six months or longer, an > Australian study shows. When I see one of these things I always wonder.... aren't breast feeding moms less likely to be obese in the first place? Doesn't breast feeding use lots of calories?  SignatureJK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com Breastfeeding burns up around 500 calories a day, so yes, a woman who nurses is less likely to be heavy. Other issues, like the rate of c-sections in heavier women, are also influential. Overweight women are more likely to deliver via section, and both sections and the drugs used during sections are known to interfere with breastfeeding starts. I'm an anomoly, apparently--I was heavy when I delivered, delivered via c-section (after 40 hours of labor), and went on to nurse my child for almost two years. Kris > > Obese mums 'breastfeed less' > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > www.SinrodStudios.com > www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > Breastfeeding burns up around 500 calories a day, so yes, a woman who > nurses is less likely to be heavy. Other issues, like the rate of [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Kris I nursed my daughter for one year when she decided that being mobile was more fun than nursing. She is still hyper at 19. I was a little overweight when I delivered and had an emergency C-section after 53 hours of labor. Diane That's excellent! Kris > > Breastfeeding burns up around 500 calories a day, so yes, a woman who > > nurses is less likely to be heavy. Other issues, like the rate of [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > when I delivered and had an emergency C-section after 53 hours of labor. > Diane > That's excellent! What a disgusting, nauseating discussion. My God. England has changed into a Nation of huge fat women pushing a brood of little fat monsters around in push-chairs that look like bloody spacecraft. The 'little darlings' screech constantly, their adoring blubbery slovenly mothers screech back at them..Hell, the Streets are filled with bloody screeching. It's like a zoo. Not for you mothers are there any rules governing how you push your gross little trolls about, oh no...just crash through and demand priority. Covered in foul perfume, you leave a trail of unbreathable gases as revolting as the slime left behind a snail. Fat acceptance? That's the trouble. You accept your repulsive appearance and try to justify it by replacing shame with pride. Just look at those breasts you are discussing. My God, they are like the udders on a cow. Lose weight by eating less. Take some pride in yourself and for Christ's sake stop patronising one-another. Werewolfy > > That's excellent! > > What a disgusting, nauseating discussion. Agreed, > My God. England has changed into a Nation of huge fat women pushing a > brood of little fat monsters around in push-chairs that look like > bloody spacecraft. > The 'little darlings' screech constantly, their adoring blubbery > slovenly mothers screech back at them..Hell, the Streets are filled > with bloody screeching. It's like a zoo. Sounds to me like the problems you are describing are more based in the moral, ethical and social attitudes of this new generation of western youth. You see it in countries where attitudes of entitlement have over taken work ethic and social graces. It also seems to be most evident in countries where large portions of the population rely on governmental subsidies to keep them in relative comfort. The zoo comment was funny though. > Not for you mothers are there any rules governing how you push your > gross little trolls about, oh no...just crash through and demand > priority. Covered in foul perfume, you leave a trail of unbreathable > gases as revolting as the slime left behind a snail. Again obesity may only be a symptom of this larger issue. Fat woman have been having children for generations and until recently, overall they did not exhibit this kind of slobbish behavior. > Fat acceptance? That's the trouble. You accept your repulsive > appearance and try to justify it by replacing shame with pride. Fat acceptance is about accepting individuals for who and what they are regardless of weight. Because lets face it, a person is the same person whether they're thin or fat. If a person behaves in a slobbish manner, it makes little difference what they weigh. If you are basing your appraisal of people based on their outward appearance then you are an incredibly shallow creature. Actions make the individual and environmental influences dictate an individuals overall character. > Just look at those breasts you are discussing. My God, they are like > the udders on a cow. Just how many fat woman's breast have you seen up close??? > Lose weight by eating less. Take some pride in yourself and for > Christ's sake stop patronising one-another. Eating less is not always the answer. Most times it is your level of aerobic activity that dictates weight loss. Most of the fat woman that I have had the pleasure of knowing do take great pride in the appearance especially since they already know they are at a perceived social disadvantage compared to there thinner counterparts. BTW, nobody is patronizing anyone here. It seems to be more of a gathering together in defense of misplaced criticism. Ragnar > BTW, nobody is patronizing anyone here. It seems to be more of a > gathering together in defense of misplaced criticism. > > Ragnar Nicely worded and responded, Ragnar. Perhaps it is, 'just me'. I lived in the South of France for the last 18 years, and have been back in England for a few months. The difference in the Nation is remarkable. Tattoed women wearing mini-tops which have layers of blubber hanging out over their skin-tight trousers, trousers that emphasise their grotesque shape, do little to fire the soul. By and large, it is the less...educated, the less 'gentile' woman who parades herself thus. Incidently, I have travelled extensively, and I have never seen mothers scream so much, and so often at their children. In consequence, the ugly little bratts also scream. Behaviour and consideration are qualities that have erroded beyond belief in the past 18 years. There exist some larger women who have 'class'. I have to say that obesity remains the curse of the loud-mouthed, the burden of the ugly and tattoed creatures that laughingly try to pass themselves off as 'Ladies'. But there are so many of them! Even the pavements are filled with fat people on electric wheelchairs...too idle to walk...who vie with the grotesque, ill-mannered Harpies who appear around every corner, pushing their space vehicles filled with the spoiled loud indisciplined brats that I shudder to think of as the future generation. But you make good points. Werewolfy > > BTW, nobody is patronizing anyone here. It seems to be more of a > > gathering together in defense of misplaced criticism. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > 18 years, and have been back in England for a few months. The > difference in the Nation is remarkable. If what you are saying is actually the case, then what has happened socially in the UK in the past 10 years is rather alarming. It seems the bad portions of American cultural influence has really exploded among the British youth. Why this has happened so suddenly I really can't say. But it has happened her in the U.S. as well. Almost everyone here seems to have forgotten that they are not the only people on the planet and with few exceptions have developed an obnoxious me first at all costs attitude. But blaming this on fat people is really not dealing with the situation realistically. BTW I don't want to sound cliché but my experience with the French has not always been pleasant either, especially when the sweat. But then again many of the Europeans I've worked with have been guilty of hygiene flaws. Generally nice people but.... > Tattoed women wearing mini-tops which have layers of blubber hanging > out over their skin-tight trousers, trousers that emphasise their > grotesque shape, do little to fire the soul. I quite agree. I like the fuller female figure BUT today's young girls have absolutely no shape. a.s crack exposing pants, a flat a.s and huge love handles have become the signature calling card of most girls the U.S. population. Even for the average FA it is disheartening. I also agree with you regarding the tattoo issue. One or two tasteful small ones in the right area can be sexy. But most of the body art I see today looks like it was applied with a felt tipped marker by a half blind housepainter. Most are completely devoid of color or imagination and amount to nothing more than tramp stamps. > By and large, it is the less...educated, the less 'gentile' woman who > parades herself thus. Incidently, I have travelled extensively, and I > have never seen mothers scream so much, and so often at their children. > In consequence, the ugly little bratts also scream. Behaviour and > consideration are qualities that have erroded beyond belief in the past > 18 years. There is the difference between the uncouth U.S. mother and her Brit. Counterpart. The lower class U.S. mom just ignores her screaming brat and gives in to what ever it wants. Permissiveness and neglect seems to be the rule here. > There exist some larger women who have 'class'. I have to say that Thank you for admitting that. You can't even begin to believe how many people are blind to that fact. > obesity remains the curse of the loud-mouthed, the burden of the ugly > and tattoed creatures that laughingly try to pass themselves off as > 'Ladies'. I don't even think they even TRY to pass themselves off as ladies. I think the whole notion of ladylike behavior is a foreign concept to them. To the uncouth pigs that populate the English and U.S. countryside ladylike behavior is a joke to be scorned. > But there are so many of them! Even the pavements are filled with fat > people on electric wheelchairs...too idle to walk... Its not that they are to idle to walk, they're too heavy to walk. As I stated before, this growth in obesity is only a symptom of a much larger concern. Fat people have been with us for centuries; it is only recently that this profusion of supersized individuals has hit our society. How you ever noticed the rise in adult as well as childhood obesity coincides with the rise in the use of and the dependence on the PC. who vie with the > grotesque, ill-mannered Harpies who appear around every corner, pushing > their space vehicles filled with the spoiled loud indisciplined brats > that I shudder to think of as the future generation. At least over they're the women push their fat kids around in strollers and get some exercise. Over here they drive them around is some sort of vehicular aberration known as a "mini-van". Just how bad do think life has to get before you consider being seen in one of those pieces of sh.t. As for worrying about the future generation, who cares, I'll be dead by then and come to think of it so will they. Ragnar "But most of the body art I see today looks like it was applied with a felt tipped marker by a half blind housepainter." I liked that. Sorry, but I'm going to have to file it away for future use! I've read you replies carefully, Ragnar. We express our findings from opposite sides of the ocean and have a certain agreement.. with reservations and additional arguements entering the conversation. Sound points that all merit examination. I've heard of that hygene criticism of French people before, and always thought it strange. Perhaps it applies only when they are away from France? Whatever, I found in all of the time that I lived there (Toulouse) they were an exceptional consciencious race of clean people. Despite very hot summer temperatures, body odour and sweat is not a thing encountered. Still...judge as you find I suppose. It's no doubt because I have suddenly returned, that I find these changes so marked. They are the sort of things that creep into Society, without that Society being too aware of it. I wrote my initial post in this thread after returning from spending an hour in town, and not really liking the experience at all. Perhaps I'm looking for Suzi Quatro (as she was in the 70's) Perhaps I am just startled by the changes. You have a suprising skill with posting, (for a Colonial) Ragnar. ;) Noted..and appreciated. Werewolfy > "But most of the body art I see today looks like it was applied with a > felt tipped marker by a half blind housepainter." > > I liked that. Sorry, but I'm going to have to file it away for future > use! Glad you appreciated it, but it is a shame that it is the truth. Most of these young slobs will have these embarrassing, misshapen, blobs of blue ink on their person until the day they die. > I've heard of that hygene criticism of French people before, and always > thought it strange. Perhaps it applies only when they are away from > France? Whatever, I found in all of the time that I lived there > (Toulouse) they were an exceptional consciencious race of clean people. > Despite very hot summer temperatures, body odour and sweat is not a > thing encountered. Still...judge as you find I suppose. I'm not going to dispute the fact that the French and many other Europeans have very clean personal habits. But in my experience and for whatever reason, sometimes they seem to overlook the deodorant aspect of the equation. Here in the U.S. that is almost unthinkable. Especially when you work in a professional atmosphere. But it appears that your experience was different than mine. Maybe it's a regional thing. > It's no doubt because I have suddenly returned, that I find these > changes so marked. They are the sort of things that creep into Society, > without that Society being too aware of it. I wrote my initial post in > this thread after returning from spending an hour in town, and not > really liking the experience at all. Your concerns about the level of rudeness and the prevalence of ill manners are very valid. I feel as a society we are far too tolerant of this type of behavior. I also feel that in many cases these individuals that you describe simply do not know any better. They're too caught up in their own little world to realize how much their obnoxious presents affect the rest of us. The balance of these creatures are products of permissive parenting and failed governmental policies that continue to breed more of the same. > Perhaps I'm looking for Suzi Quatro (as she was in the 70's) That took some balls to admit. But seriously, it's not a complete loss, you just have to sharpen your eye and look harder. Just be careful you don't go blind in the process. > You have a suprising skill with posting, (for a Colonial) Ragnar. ;) Colonial?... Yeah well, thank god for the "White Mans Burden". Ragnar >> That's excellent! > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Werewolfy Breast feeding is the most natural and healthy thing a mother can do for her baby. It doesn't matter whether the mother is underweight or overweight, breast feeding is always better for the baby. >> That's excellent! > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > brood of little fat monsters around in push-chairs that look like > bloody spacecraft. Assuming you are being serious, I'll give you the obvious answer. It's the squeaky wheel syndrome. The quiet and thin, unassuming moms and kids don't really get your attention do they? All it takes is the few barnyard animals out of thousands of "oil painting" folks that are coloring your opinion. Most women are wonderful with perfectly gorgeous breasts. SignatureJK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > Assuming you are being serious, I'll give you the obvious answer. It's > the squeaky wheel syndrome. The quiet and thin, unassuming moms and kids > don't really get your attention do they? All it takes is the few barnyard > animals out of thousands of "oil painting" folks that are coloring your > opinion. Most women are wonderful with perfectly gorgeous breasts. Oh yes,that's a problem I have, Glass.. I'm always serious...too serious. Good point though. Yes, attention is naturally drawn to the freaks, the mountains lumbering along, the screeching of thir brood. But it's the percentage I find frightening. It simply wasn't this way 18 years ago. It's not just the isolated case of mobile repulsion now, there are so many of them. There has been an explosion in size coupled with a contemperaneous reduction in politeness since my leaving here in 1988. Today, England is a very different Country. Incidently, the fruits of the 70/80's 'new' style of teaching in schools is also evident. These are today's adults and few indeed are capable of addition without using their fingers..either to count with, or to press buttons on a machine. Looking and listening to people in the street, I've heard Barbary apes communicating more efficiently..and more interestingly. You are right though. These people do attract attention, and yes, there are many normal people. Sadly, I know I am correct about those percentages. I wish it were not so, but a wander through the town is all that is needed to see how, well, how unpleasent many of the residents have become. Werewolfy >> Assuming you are being serious, I'll give you the obvious answer. It's >> the squeaky wheel syndrome. The quiet and thin, unassuming moms and kids [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Werewolfy The next point that you may want to consider, may be a tad uncomfortable. You're 18 years older now! Things that used to annoy you mildly, you have either learned to handle, or have risen to pet peeve status after all this time. In your case you've gone over the edge with this one. The only thing that ever bothered me 18 years ago was stupidity. Now a have a longer laundry list of stupid little things that make me nuts. SignatureJK Sinrod www.SinrodStudios.com www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com The funny thing is, this study doesn't look at that issue. It's kind of not useful in that way. Let's sum up: Obesity correlated with reduced likelihood and length of breast feeding. No Causality to obesity investigated. No real relationship explained either, simply co-incidence, in the statistical sense of the word. Has very little to say about obesity that is useful to anyone. -Hollywood > When I see one of these things I always wonder.... aren't breast feeding > moms less likely to be obese in the first place? Doesn't breast feeding use [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > www.SinrodStudios.com > www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com |
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