Here's an interesting write up on food that has ADA logos. 'Seems like there
is also some worry from the ADA about what kind of image they are trying to
portray. For this type of organization, it would be a tough balancing act of
what kind of sponsorship funds verses simple good health advice. The article
is 4 pages long, so too lengthy to post here.
In Diabetes Fight, Raising Cash and Keeping Trust, NYTIMES
http://tinyurl.com/yhp8mv
original link (maybe too long to show up here properly)
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/25/health/25ada.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1164517200&en
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I liked this statement from the article.
( "Maybe the American Diabetes Association should rename itself the
American Junk Food Association," said Gary Ruskin, director of Commercial
Alert, a consumer advocacy group.)
Here's another statement.
(At one point last year, Dr. Kahn also tried to defend the Cadbury deal by
telling an online publication: "There is not a shred of evidence that sugar,
per se, has anything to do with diabetes.")
Interesting
( Though they often present the most difficult choices, food companies
represent a small segment of the A.D.A.'s corporate support. Pharmaceutical
companies remain the largest corporate contributors, but the guidelines have
not affected them as much because the A.D.A. has never allowed its logo to
be put on specific medicines.)
Wow, 41 million. That's a big potential market.
( An estimated 41 million people in America are viewed as prediabetic, in
danger of developing the disease. One drug manufacturer, GlaxoSmithKline,
recently completed trials of a new drug to treat this potentially huge
market and, in several months, the A.D.A. panel will publish its
recommendation on whether drug treatment for prediabetes is warranted.)
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tunderbar@hotmail.com - 27 Nov 2006 00:50 GMT
did you catch the left side link titled:
Diabetes Panel's Relationship With Drug Companies
Very interesting ideed.
TC
> Here's an interesting write up on food that has ADA logos. 'Seems like there
> is also some worry from the ADA about what kind of image they are trying to
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> Tom + Pat Gallant
> tpgallant@shaw.ca
Tom G - 27 Nov 2006 01:43 GMT
> did you catch the left side link titled:
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> TC
Actually I didn't even notice it, as I usually blank out any forms of
advertisements on the websites that are read. Thanks for pointing it out.
The article itself though, mentions that many of the board members of the
ADA have drug company involvement.
RRzVRR - 27 Nov 2006 11:51 GMT
> Here's an interesting write up on food that has ADA logos. 'Seems like there
> is also some worry from the ADA about what kind of image they are trying to
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> telling an online publication: "There is not a shred of evidence that sugar,
> per se, has anything to do with diabetes.")
Read this in the paper Saturday and had to laugh at that
statement... actually had to re-read that statement.
The whole ideal that they were struggling the moral dilemma of
helping people directly (by not endorsing poor dietary choices)
over raising funds for the association was inexcusable.
> Interesting
>
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> Tom + Pat Gallant
> tpgallant@shaw.ca

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Tom G - 27 Nov 2006 14:55 GMT
> > In Diabetes Fight, Raising Cash and Keeping Trust, NYTIMES
> > http://tinyurl.com/yhp8mv
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> helping people directly (by not endorsing poor dietary choices)
> over raising funds for the association was inexcusable.
Maybe when the approval for a pre-diabetes drug comes out, there will be
a lot more endorsements, and they won't have to worry about sponsorship
money from the major food companies. The extra 41 million people they're
talking about is double the size of the current diabetics of 21 million. It
could potentially put 1 in every 5 people on some sort of diabetes
medication. This is alarming.
Jackie Patti - 27 Nov 2006 22:19 GMT
> Here's another statement.
>
> (At one point last year, Dr. Kahn also tried to defend the Cadbury deal by
> telling an online publication: "There is not a shred of evidence that sugar,
> per se, has anything to do with diabetes.")
Stupid sh.t like this is why I quit reading anything published by the
ADA over 15 years ago.
The one that did it for me was that they finally admitted that starch
had the identical effect on bg as sugar and instead of concluding that
starch should be limited, changed there recommendations to say it was OK
for diabetics to eat sugar.
Anyone who says diabetics should eat sugar is a f.cking moron. I mean,
that's just flatout obviously too stupid for words.
They've so blown their credibility for so long that their logo being
sold to the highest bidder is just meaningless.
Curt - 28 Nov 2006 20:51 GMT
> > Here's another statement.
> >
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> They've so blown their credibility for so long that their logo being
> sold to the highest bidder is just meaningless.
Bob in CT - 30 Nov 2006 21:54 GMT
>> Here's another statement.
>> (At one point last year, Dr. Kahn also tried to defend the Cadbury
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> They've so blown their credibility for so long that their logo being
> sold to the highest bidder is just meaningless.
Jackie, you need to stop holding back. Let it out! ;-)

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Jbuch - 28 Nov 2006 21:46 GMT
> Here's an interesting write up on food that has ADA logos. 'Seems like there
> is also some worry from the ADA about what kind of image they are trying to
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> Tom + Pat Gallant
> tpgallant@shaw.ca
The danger with an organization growing really large is MONEY.
Once you are large, one of the most important things is MONEY.
Therefore, you tend to end up sharing many more traits with a
capitalistic organization -- MONEY and how to keep on getting it.
The article is describing pretty much precisely that point. ADA needs
MONEY, and they end up putting themselves in difficult positions taking
MONEY from the food and drug businesses and somethow trying to ethically
stay above these commercial sources.
So many compromises are created that the diabetics of the USA would
probably be better off if the ADA were simply to go out of business and
let a new organization start helping out.
The really great thing would be to legally abolish themselves and give
their financial assets to a successor organization.
The successor organization would have maybe 5 to 10 years to get some
real progress made, and then their endorsement would be much more
valuable than the current ADA endorsement is.
Oh, diabetics might actually be helped and prevention through diet might
save many millions anguish, pain and illness.
If that counts, that is.

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Roger Zoul - 29 Nov 2006 01:45 GMT
:: Tom G wrote:
::: Here's an interesting write up on food that has ADA
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:: If that counts, that is.
I think the companies would just jump on the bandwagon the the successor
organization, since they would effectively be endorsed by the ADA (which
would be meaningless to me, but of apparent value to many, many others).
Diabetics are helped tremendously by ignoring the ADA and listening to
Atkins, Bernstein, the Eades, and many others. The ADA is, IMO, NOT who
they should listen to if they really want to improve their situation quickly
and effectively.