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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2007I am biased in favor of artificial sweeteners.
I blame my soon-to-be-ex-wife. She and her sister used to swear that aspartame gave them migraines and flu-like symptoms. Until I started using it for lowcarbing. She was really bad about reading labels, and was soon using all kinds of aspartame with no ill effects at all. Her whole family and most of thier friends were like this - all up on the granola train and claiming symptoms that miraculously never appeared when good-old-Jake showed up with a frankensweetner-made cheesecake for a get together. I can honestly say that I have never actually met an aspartame-sensitive person whom I did not suspect was more mentally symptomatic than physically so. > I blame my soon-to-be-ex-wife. She and her sister used to swear that > aspartame gave them migraines and flu-like symptoms. Until I started [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > person whom I did not suspect was more mentally symptomatic than > physically so. Maybe that because you doubted her claims is one reason why she will be your ex-wife. Don't you know that women are always right? :o))) I agree that it seems to me that aspartame have been badmouthed unreasonably for decades, even if it is more accepted these days. > I can honestly say that I have never actually met an aspartame-sensitive > person whom I did not suspect was more mentally symptomatic than > physically so. Well, then, you didn't ever meet my son who developed headaches from drinking sodas with aspartame in them at an early age (one of my boys became lactose intolerant at age 13. Was that all in his head, too?). Little kids don't know about chemicals in food. They don't have an agenda. He just had headaches. (still does) Pat in TX It's a tumor. >> I can honestly say that I have never actually met an aspartame-sensitive >> person whom I did not suspect was more mentally symptomatic than [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Pat in TX I used aspartame diet soft drinks with no discernable effect. Now, what stock symbol do I buy to play aspartame? >I blame my soon-to-be-ex-wife. She and her sister used to swear that >aspartame gave them migraines and flu-like symptoms. Until I started using [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > person whom I did not suspect was more mentally symptomatic than > physically so. > I used aspartame diet soft drinks with no discernable effect. Now, what > stock symbol do I buy to play aspartame? [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> person whom I did not suspect was more mentally symptomatic than >> physically so. What, because I'm a corporate shill if I think the aspartame scare is overblown? LOL - USENET's teh funnay. > What, because I'm a corporate shill if I think the aspartame scare is > overblown? > > LOL - USENET's teh funnay. If it's overblown as you say, why do the states require newborns to be tested?? >>What, because I'm a corporate shill if I think the aspartame scare is >>overblown? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If it's overblown as you say, why do the states require newborns to be > tested?? Perhaps we need newborns to be tested for peanut allergies. Then, we can add another couple of dozen more allergies to be tested for. Sometimes perople and states do "good things" for dumb reasons - except it makes voters feel good that thier legislators are doing something about some worrisome situation. Something is better than nothing, isn't it? Jim That wasn't an answer; it was a tap dance. >> What, because I'm a corporate shill if I think the aspartame scare is >> overblown? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If it's overblown as you say, why do the states require newborns to be > tested?? Hey, I never said I couldn't be convinced otherwise. Do you have a cite for this? What states require aspartame sensitivity testing in newborns? >>> What, because I'm a corporate shill if I think the aspartame scare is >>> overblown? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hey, I never said I couldn't be convinced otherwise. Do you have a cite > for this? What states require aspartame sensitivity testing in newborns? Oh, lol, I just realized what you're talking about. Identifying infants with PKU is a LOT different than saying the states agree that Aspartame is dangerous for use for the general population. You almost got me there though. >> Hey, I never said I couldn't be convinced otherwise. Do you have a cite >> for this? What states require aspartame sensitivity testing in newborns? [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > dangerous for use for the general population. You almost got me there > though. Because it's an inherited disorder. That means the "aspartame scare" is NOT overblown. Pat in TX >>> Hey, I never said I couldn't be convinced otherwise. Do you have a cite >>> for this? What states require aspartame sensitivity testing in newborns? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Pat in TX I believe I read that about 10 % of humans are lactose intolerant. With a billion people guzzling down diet sodas full of aspartame for 20 years with no ill effects, maybe apartame intolerance reaches the .000001 percent level - at the most. Or in other words, I believe your kids suffer from a hysterical mother syndrone and NOT intolerant to aspartame. I know you have NOT done a blind study on them. It is easy to do and would prove to you and them that they are not really intolerant to aspartame. > I believe I read that about 10 % of humans are lactose intolerant. > > With a billion people guzzling down diet sodas full of aspartame for > 20 years with no ill effects, maybe apartame intolerance reaches the > .000001 percent level - at the most. You don't know this! It's just speculation on your part. > Or in other words, I believe your kids suffer from a hysterical > mother syndrone and NOT intolerant to aspartame. So, 10 years of lactose intolerance is all in his head? He's graduated from college now and is out on his own---without any hysterical parents---and guess what: still lactose intolerant! BTW: he's part Chickasaw, Cherokee, and Choctaw. You might google for THAT connection and lactose intolerant. As for the other son, he still gets headaches if he imbibes anything with aspartame in it---even if he doesn't know there is aspartame in it such as if he is giving a paper cup with soda in it. Amazing Kresgin, eh? > I know you have NOT done a blind study on them. It is easy to do > and would prove to you and them that they are not really intolerant to > aspartame. Shame on you! You don't know these young men! You are so intent on proving your weak and speculative "theory" that you are truly blind. If it doesn't "fit" with your speculations, you simply deny, deny, deny. Pat in TX > >> What, because I'm a corporate shill if I think the aspartame scare is > >> overblown? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Hey, I never said I couldn't be convinced otherwise. Do you have a cite > for this? What states require aspartame sensitivity testing in newborns? I assume he's talking about the test for PKU. While aspartame is a no-no for people who have PKU, there are many other things they have to avoid.  SignatureAF "Non Sequitur U has a really, really lousy debate team." --artyw raises the bar on rec.sport.baseball > If it's overblown as you say, why do the states require newborns to > be tested?? I don't have a dog in this fight, but *surely* you're not whipping out "because the state says so" as an argument. Food pyramid, ya know? SignatureAaron -- 285/235/200 -- http://aaron.baugher.biz/ "If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not zebras." > I can honestly say that I have never actually met an aspartame-sensitive > person whom I did not suspect was more mentally symptomatic than > physically so. I have one friend who appears to be drunk after drinking a diet soda with aspartame. I remember him having a Dr Pepper with lunch day and a couple of hours later he was almost passed out at his keyboard. I went back and asked if they had Diet Dr Pepper. Yes, they carried it because so few people could tell it from regular. Also aspartame blocks my wife from loss. No idea what the mechanism is but she can go a month not losing, drop aspartame, and she gets a whoosh. Clearly this can't lasat forever on a low calorie diet but I have been amazed at the resistance to loss while on aspartame. So while I get no ill effects from it myself I have met some who get physical effects. I don't know how overblown the claims of ill are, but I know they have at least some basis is truth. |
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