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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / April 2007The Ol' Atkins training stays with you!
So, there I am at the Dairy Queen in Valley View, Texas. I haven't eaten for 7 hours and I am hungry! I get a DQ Dude and a side order of fries and a side order of Jalitos (which turn out to be deep fat fried jalapenos). Now, a little while later, I wish I hadn't. The fat and coating is sticking in my belly like I've swallowed a brick. I feel greasy and sluggish. I keep thinking how I felt after eating an Atkins-type meal. I am not enjoying my binge--I'm feeling regret! An order of fat-fried brick with a side order of regret! Perfect! Pat in TX It's a sucky way to learn a lesson, ain't it? I have done the same though, just two weeks ago. Was nervous about my upcoming surgery, craving a dang donut for over a month and I had one along with a cup of coffee with creamer, etc. Well, my blood sugar shot up to 269 and crashed to 42 before it leveled out in the mid nineties. Stupid, stupid stupid. Yeah, I know how you feel..............thinking back on it though is there something you could have done differently? I don't imagine that there are many "healthier" places to eat in Valley View, Tx:-) I know what I needed to do...........take my arse home and cook me a meal.............sigh:-) Carol j So, there I am at the Dairy Queen in Valley View, Texas. I haven't eaten for 7 hours and I am hungry! I get a DQ Dude and a side order of fries and a side order of Jalitos (which turn out to be deep fat fried jalapenos). Now, a little while later, I wish I hadn't. The fat and coating is sticking in my belly like I've swallowed a brick. I feel greasy and sluggish. I keep thinking how I felt after eating an Atkins-type meal. I am not enjoying my binge--I'm feeling regret! An order of fat-fried brick with a side order of regret! Perfect! Pat in TX It's the carbs, not the fat! :) :: So, there I am at the Dairy Queen in Valley View, Texas. I haven't :: eaten for 7 hours and I am hungry! I get a DQ Dude and a side order [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] :: :: Pat in TX "Roger Zoul" < > It's the carbs, not the fat! :) So why was I burping greasy fat? Why didn't my indigestion feel like carbs (whatever that is!). I just felt as if I had eaten too much breading and grease. Pat in TX :: "Roger Zoul" < ::: It's the carbs, not the fat! :) :: :: So why was I burping greasy fat? Why didn't my indigestion feel like :: carbs (whatever that is!). Because those damn carbs were fermenting in your belly, causing an explosive situation, man! :) :: I just felt as if I had eaten too much breading and grease. I know. But had you left off the carbs, you would have avoided the burping, bloated, greasy feeling altogether. The fat would have been digested without problems. Of course, you'll feel full and heavy anytime you overeat (if that's what you did). I never get any kind of indigestion from eating high-fat, low carb meals. Only when you add carbs does that happen. Factoid! > :: "Roger Zoul" < > ::: It's the carbs, not the fat! :) [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I never get any kind of indigestion from eating high-fat, low carb meals. > Only when you add carbs does that happen. Factoid! Sadly, I can get some stomach troubles from eating certain products with low carb content.  SignatureBob in CT :: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:38:47 -0400, Roger Zoul :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] :: Sadly, I can get some stomach troubles from eating certain products :: with low carb content. Yes, certain veggies will "simulate" the gut...but that's not quite like burping up baddies. > :: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:38:47 -0400, Roger Zoul > :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > Yes, certain veggies will "simulate" the gut...but that's not quite like > burping up baddies. Sorry, I meant meats. One of the reasons I had a reactivity/allergen test performed was because I can eat some things, including meats, that terribly upset my stomach. In particular, some very fatty foods, like salami, can upset the tummy. SignatureBob in CT :: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:47:23 -0400, Roger Zoul :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] :: things, including meats, that terribly upset my stomach. In :: particular, some very fatty foods, like salami, can upset the tummy. What is salami anyway? It's a meat product....cured...can sit on the shelf for up to a year (some of it, anyway)....lots of salt...yes, I can see that. Is it the fat in salami that upsets you, or is it something else? :: -- :: Bob in CT > :: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:47:23 -0400, Roger Zoul > :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > for up to a year (some of it, anyway)....lots of salt...yes, I can see that. > Is it the fat in salami that upsets you, or is it something else? That would be my question. There's more to salami than pure meat -- there's other stuff in there, yes? SignatureBlueBrooke 254/236/135 -- 01 Jan 2007 >> :: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:47:23 -0400, Roger Zoul >> :: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > That would be my question. There's more to salami than pure meat -- > there's other stuff in there, yes? It easily could be non-fat items. For instance, I can drink cod liver oil with no problems (other than the nasty taste, that is). So, fat in and of itself might not be a problem, though I do have some troubles with certain products. This morning, for example, I had some beef wrapped in bacon. This caused an upset stomach, but supposedly I'm allergic to pork, so perhaps it was the pork. Alternatively, it could've been mere coincidence and something I ate last night/yesterday really caused the problem. SignatureBob in CT ::: On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:11:06 -0400, "Roger Zoul" ::: <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] :: Alternatively, it could've been mere coincidence and something I ate :: last night/yesterday really caused the problem. That's a good point....what you ate a while ago could be still affecting your system later on....so determining the exact cause can indeed be difficult. > It easily could be non-fat items. For instance, I can drink cod liver oil > with no problems (other than the nasty taste, that is). So, fat in and of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > perhaps it was the pork. Alternatively, it could've been mere coincidence > and something I ate last night/yesterday really caused the problem. Hi, Bob -- It might not even be the pork -- it might be something that was used to cure the bacon. I know I can get a reaction if I eat too much bacon, but pork chops don't bother me at all. Seems to me in order to narrow that down, if you wanted to, you'd have to start with stuff that was as pure as you could get it and then add to it to find out what the trigger is. Of course, now-a-days with all the crap they put in the food, you might have a hard time doing that on your own. :-) SignatureBlueBrooke 254/236/135 -- 01 Jan 2007 > It might not even be the pork -- it might be something that was used > to cure the bacon. I know I can get a reaction if I eat too much > bacon, but pork chops don't bother me at all. Yeah, I think Bob mentioned salami as a problem too, so the common factor might be the curing. I'd try cutting out all cured meats for a few days, and then have some pork chops, and see what happens. SignatureAaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz "If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not zebras." > > It might not even be the pork -- it might be something that was used > > to cure the bacon. I know I can get a reaction if I eat too much [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > factor might be the curing. I'd try cutting out all cured meats for a > few days, and then have some pork chops, and see what happens. Thinking about this today reminded me of what I found in my sunflower seeds -- HFCS. Didn't look at the ingredients because I figured seeds, salt, a little oil -- I guess they threw in the sugar rush for good measure? LOL! I don't think it was a big deal -- I used to throw a tablespoon or so on my salads. But is there a law or something that they have to put that crap in *everything* ?? SignatureBlueBrooke 254/236/135 -- 01 Jan 2007 >>>> On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 17:47:23 -0400, Roger Zoul >>>> <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 42 lines] > That would be my question. There's more to salami than pure meat -- > there's other stuff in there, yes? corn syrup is in alot of those processed meats.........that just tears my stomach up..... Carol J When you burp you will taste anything that's in your stomach, that doesn't mean what you taste is what's causing the burp. | "Roger Zoul" < || It's the carbs, not the fat! :) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | | Pat in TX > So, there I am at the Dairy Queen in Valley View, Texas. I haven't > eaten for 7 hours and I am hungry! I get a DQ Dude and a side order > of fries and a side order of Jalitos (which turn out to be deep fat > fried jalapenos). > Now, a little while later, I wish I hadn't. The fat and coating is > sticking in my belly like I've swallowed a brick. I feel greasy and > sluggish. I keep thinking how I felt after eating an Atkins-type > meal. I am not enjoying my binge--I'm feeling regret! > An order of fat-fried brick with a side order of regret! Perfect! I'm not sure why you keep mentioning the fat. If you normally eat low-carb, you know the fat wasn't the problem; the carbs were. (I can brown up a pound of 75% lean burger with some spices, stir in a few ounces of cream cheese (keeping the fat from the meat in there), and eat the whole thing and feel fine. An order of fries is a whole different story.) The unfortunate thing about fried foods that you buy is that they're almost always heavily breaded. Which reminds me, eating low-carb away from home is a pain, no matter how much you work at it. Yesterday, I chose grilled walleye over fried at a bar and grill, to avoid the breading. It came with breading anyway. At a family cookout, I passed on the "honey barbecue" ribs and ate the ones that had a dry rub instead, only to find out later that the cook decided to add some sugar to the rub at the last minute after all. So I was bloated and had a bit of heartburn later that night, right on schedule. About the only thing I seem to be able to order without getting a carbalicious surprise is an omelette. I'm reminded why I mostly eat at home. Funny story: Last night someone who ate the same low-carb meals as me all day said, "Why is it whenever I eat what you eat, I feel so much better?" Of course, that by itself isn't enough to convince her to do it. It's not enough to see the truth, when it's up against belief. SignatureAaron -- 285/235/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz "If you hear hoofbeats, you just go ahead and think horsies, not zebras." > About the only thing I seem to be able to order without getting a > carbalicious surprise is an omelette. I've heard that some places, like IHop, put pancake batter in them? So if that's the case, just some bacon and eggs might be the only thing you can get away with. :-) > I'm reminded why I mostly eat at home. Ditto here -- because of the potential surprises, but also because of the cost and the fact that it just irks me to have to pay for stuff I'm not going to eat -- like the hash browns and toast that come with the omelette -- Or those scrumptious blueberry muffins I used to get at Perkins! Great -- now I'm slobbering. :-) SignatureBlueBrooke 254/236/135 -- 01 Jan 2007 :: On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 11:11:43 -0500, Aaron Baugher :: <aaron_baugher@yahoo.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] :: :: Or those scrumptious blueberry muffins I used to get at Perkins! See.....If I ride 65 miles, I can eat pancakes at Perkins. In fact, I almost have to. |
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