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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / August 2007food poisoning?
I have what may be food poisoning, or may be a stomach flu. Nausea, diarrhea, etc. I'm feeling really rung out, and am struggling to keep hydrated. Pre-low-carb I'd have a little bit of something bland and starchy (crackers, instant potato, etc) to help settle my stomach. Any suggestions for a low-carb item with a similar effect? I can't bear anything greasy/oily/fatty right now - just the thought makes me ill. Maybe a protein shake? It sounds vile, but might not be so bad... Dawn > I have what may be food poisoning, or may be a stomach flu. Nausea, diarrhea, > etc. I'm feeling really rung out, and am struggling to keep hydrated. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dawn When I'm that sick, I just eat whatever I feel like, within reason. Going off LC for a couple days shouldn't be a big deal. Also, you when you can't keep anything down, it would be a good idea to get some fast energy in whatever you can, and carbs fit that bill. For nausea, Coke works for many people. Best of all is Coke syrup. Don't know if that still exists, but when I was a kid, my mother used to get it at the local soda fountain. "trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net> wrote: > > I have what may be food poisoning, or may be a stomach flu. Nausea, diarrhea, > > etc. I'm feeling really rung out, and am struggling to keep hydrated. > ... > For nausea, Coke works for many people. Best of all is Coke syrup. > Don't know if that still exists, but when I was a kid, my mother used > to get it at the local soda fountain. I see cola syrup at pharmacies. It's usually in a tiny bottle near the other obscure low profit items like camphor oil. Poorly positioned at the top of a non-obvious shelf and thus hard to find. The folks on the day shift may not even know its there unless they regularly do stocker work. Not low carb, but priorities in life don't always put low carbing first. When I'm ill and something wants out, I generally would rather be happy to get it out of my body than fight it from the gate. Barf a couple of times, then try something to fight the nausea. As to cola syrup being the best thing for nausea, ask a cancer patient on chemo what they do for their nausea. It turns out cola syrup is the best legal thing for it, but the second best thing if you expand your options enough. I tend to go with weaker stuff like Alka Seltzer rather than trying to get stronger than cola syrup. >"trad...@optonline.net" <trad...@optonline.net> wrote: >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >you expand your options enough. I tend to go with weaker stuff >like Alka Seltzer rather than trying to get stronger than cola syrup. Well, generally one likes to stick to items available "over the counter", and unless one lives in The Netherlands I suspect what you are talking about is not available "over the counter." <g> Coke syrup is often used at amusement parks for people who have nausea because of their rides. I'm not so sure it's as effective with something like the flu or food poisoning. I've known several people in such situations who did better on clear liquids. They couldn't keep Coke down, but they managed to subsist on "soda crackers and flat (de-fizzed) 7-Up or Ginger Ale." This may simply be a matter of individual reactions to various products. We see plenty of variation on other things, so why not Coke syrup? >>As to cola syrup being the best thing for nausea, ask a cancer >>patient on chemo what they do for their nausea. It turns out cola [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > counter", and unless one lives in The Netherlands I suspect what you > are talking about is not available "over the counter." <g> You're wrong about cola syrup. I remember it from when I was a child. It's just flat cola. You could make your own. > You're wrong about cola syrup. I remember it from when I was a child. It's > just flat cola. You could make your own. Well, it's concentrated also. Coke syrup was one of the advnatages of being ill as a child. And loads of comic books. I forgot about ginger when I posted earlier about the egg drop soup. The reason flat ginger ale is recommended is for the ginger. So it's good to simmer a slice in the broth for a bit before adding the egg.  Signaturehttp://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ >> You're wrong about cola syrup. I remember it from when I was a child. >> It's just flat cola. You could make your own. > > Well, it's concentrated also. Coke syrup was one of the advnatages of > being ill as a child. And loads of comic books. Not if your mother gave you Canada Dry Ginger Ale. There's no ginger in it. > Well, it's concentrated also. Coke syrup was one of the advnatages > of being ill as a child. And loads of comic books. Yeah, the only time we got soda when I was a kid was birthdays and when we were throwing up. Even then, it was from a 2-liter bottle that'd been in the back of the fridge since the last birthday party, so it was bound to be flat. SignatureAaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz > > You're wrong about cola syrup. I remember it from when I was a child. It's > > just flat cola. You could make your own. I've used flat cola when I wasn't willing to drive to the pharmacy, but flat soda definitely is not the same thing as the syrup. > Well, it's concentrated also. Coke syrup was one of the advnatages of > being ill as a child. And loads of comic books. I've seen it in small bottles in pharmacies. I've also seen it by the gallon at a place I once worked part time as a fry-cook in college. I don't know what ratio the machine mixed water into the syrup but a gallon of the syrup made a vast amount of regular sugar cola. Come to think of it, I've also seen a lot of the stainless steel cylinders of syrup. They contain maybe 5 gallons and they make an enormous amount of cola when mixed with water and CO2. Cola syrup has the same consistency as maple syrup or Lyle's Golden syrup. Thick. > I forgot about ginger when I posted earlier about the egg drop soup. > The reason flat ginger ale is recommended is for the ginger. So it's > good to simmer a slice in the broth for a bit before adding the egg. Some people think real ginger is too hot a spice for it to settle their stomach. My wife for example. I'll take slices and chomp on them. Very settling. >>>As to cola syrup being the best thing for nausea, ask a cancer >>>patient on chemo what they do for their nausea. It turns out cola >>>syrup is the best legal thing for it, but the second best thing if >>>you expand your options enough. I tend to go with weaker stuff >>>like Alka Seltzer rather than trying to get stronger than cola syrup. >> Well, generally one likes to stick to items available "over the >> counter", and unless one lives in The Netherlands I suspect what you >> are talking about is not available "over the counter." <g> >You're wrong about cola syrup. I remember it from when I was a child. It's >just flat cola. You could make your own. You appear to have missed the part where he says that while cola syrup is the best LEGAL thing it is only the second best thing overall. My response about "not available over the counter" was in reference to the ILLEGAL substance he was talking about (which is legal in The Netherlands, I believe). Marijuana is often used by cancer patients on chemotherapy (and AIDS patients) to reduce nausea and increase appetite in spite of its illegal status. Here is California they've even tried to make it legal for medical purposes but state law can't override federal law. But enforcement is rare for those with a medical reason to use it. As for cola syrup being just "flat cola" - no, it isn't. It is missing all that water as well as the carbonation. It can often be easier for a stomach to keep down a teaspoon of syrup than to drink, say, 3 cans of flat cola to get the same amount of syrup. > As for cola syrup being just "flat cola" - no, it isn't. It is > missing all that water as well as the carbonation. It can often be > easier for a stomach to keep down a teaspoon of syrup than to drink, > say, 3 cans of flat cola to get the same amount of syrup. I don't think it will do much for rehydration though. >> As for cola syrup being just "flat cola" - no, it isn't. It is >> missing all that water as well as the carbonation. It can often be >> easier for a stomach to keep down a teaspoon of syrup than to drink, >> say, 3 cans of flat cola to get the same amount of syrup. > >I don't think it will do much for rehydration though. By itself, no. But if you first give the syrup, say, 30 minutes to work settling the stomach down, then when you DO try to rehydrate it is more likely to stay down. >>> As for cola syrup being just "flat cola" - no, it isn't. It is >>> missing all that water as well as the carbonation. It can often be [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > work settling the stomach down, then when you DO try to rehydrate it > is more likely to stay down. Ok:) I haven't seen the syrup here in Scotland, but we are advised to take flat cola in such circumstances. > Maybe a protein shake? It sounds vile, but might not be so bad... Vanilla ISS Research Micellar Matrix Casein http://www23.netrition.com/iss_micellar_matrix_page.html IMHO it's far less "vile" than whey protein, blends well, and the vanilla tastes good and mixes well with other flavors. The result is thicker than just whey, and lacks that chalky mouth feel. Casein is also more likely to settle your stomach, and digests more slowly. Flavored with sucralose (splenda), no sugar alcohols. This is what I make my blueberry slushies with - powder, frozen blueberries, water. Tastes like blueberry ice cream, esp if you add extra splenda and a dash of heavy cream :-) See a doctor. Food poisoning can have permanent effects. Things like kidney failure. >I have what may be food poisoning, or may be a stomach flu. Nausea, >diarrhea, etc. I'm feeling really rung out, and am struggling to keep [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dawn > See a doctor. Food poisoning can have permanent effects. Things like > kidney failure. Eh, Doctor says "nothing I can do but hold your hand" for potential food poisoning. My symptoms aren't severe enough to justify anything more than self-monitoring. I'm successfully keeping fluids down and staying adequately hydrated. I just feel terrible, probably because I've consumed <100 calories today and my abs are getting one heck of a workout. Now that I think about it - I feel like I've bicycled too hard and am bonking. I should check my blood sugar levels just to be on the safe side. Given that my daughter just started preschool this week, I'm leaning toward stomach virus at the moment. A bunch of 3 year olds trying to wipe their own bums. Not really anything to be done about that either except keep pushing the electrolyte fluid to wash everything out. Dawn > I have what may be food poisoning, or may be a stomach flu. Nausea, > diarrhea, etc. I'm feeling really rung out, and am struggling to keep [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Maybe a protein shake? It sounds vile, but might not be so bad... Egg drop soup... basically, just whisk a scrambled egg into simmering chicken broth. Signaturehttp://www.ornery-geeks.org/consulting/ > I have what may be food poisoning, or may be a stomach flu. Nausea, diarrhea, > etc. I'm feeling really rung out, and am struggling to keep hydrated. > Pre-low-carb I'd have a little bit of something bland and starchy (crackers, > instant potato, etc) to help settle my stomach. Any suggestions for a low-carb > item with a similar effect? I can't bear anything greasy/oily/fatty right now - > just the thought makes me ill. Same sort of salad and low carb veggies you normally eat, in the normal plentiful quantities. But without the random cheese sauce or dusted with a random spice/herb. > Maybe a protein shake? It sounds vile, but might not be so bad... If you think you could hold it down. I consider them harder on my digestion than my usual food, but that's probably based more on my common diet and being adjusted to it. > I have what may be food poisoning, or may be a stomach flu. Nausea, > diarrhea, etc. I'm feeling really rung out, and am struggling to keep [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Maybe a protein shake? It sounds vile, but might not be so bad... When this happens to me , by experience, I know exactly what I can have (and hold): - Evian water. I guess any mineral water with low mineral amount would do. - flat cold diet coke. Appart from this, even tap water makes me ill. btw: Evian and diet coke are low carb ;-) Huey "Dawn" <chicken broth. beef broth. |
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