Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / August 2007
carb list for nuts
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em - 29 Aug 2007 20:05 GMT Anybody have a list of carbs in nuts, *per ounce*, that they could copy/paste into a post? If not, I'll just look it up myself & post it sometime.
All I found on the net was by the cup or T, as follows (fiber already subtracted):
This is per 2T: ----------------- Almonds - 1.4g Cashews - 5g Chestnuts - 24.2g Coconut - 0.7g Hazelnuts - 1.2g Macadamia Nuts - 0.9g Peanut Butter - 4.3g Peanuts - 1.8g Pecans - 0.6g Pine Nuts - 1.7g Pistachio Nuts - 3.1g Pumpkin Seeds - 2.4g Sunflower Seeds - 1.5g Walnuts - 1.1g
TIA
DJ Delorie - 29 Aug 2007 22:49 GMT Have you tried http://www.delorie.com/health/ns/ ?
em - 29 Aug 2007 23:20 GMT > Have you tried http://www.delore.com/health/ns/ ? I took a look. Its "another" database to look up food values. The USDA database is pretty much the standard & easy to use:
http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/
I've seen a few websites on the net that group foods, like nuts, wines, fruits, meats, etc. Was hoping to find something with a fairly complete list of nuts so that I don't have to search them out in a database.
DJ Delorie - 30 Aug 2007 00:36 GMT > I took a look. Its "another" database to look up food values. The USDA > database is pretty much the standard & easy to use: > > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ Mine *is* the USDA database, except I do the LC math for you (subtracting fiber, pretty pie charts, etc) and let you build "standard" nutrition labels for any serving size.
But it should have ounces for most nuts.
DJ Delorie - 30 Aug 2007 00:37 GMT > I took a look. Its "another" database to look up food values. The USDA > database is pretty much the standard & easy to use: > > http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/ Mine *is* the USDA database, except I do the LC math for you (subtracting fiber, pretty pie charts, etc) and let you build "standard" nutrition labels for any serving size.
But it should have ounces for most nuts.
em - 30 Aug 2007 01:41 GMT >> I took a look. Its "another" database to look up food values. The USDA >> database is pretty much the standard & easy to use: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > But it should have ounces for most nuts. Cool! I'll spend some time and check it out. Thanks!
Aaron Baugher - 30 Aug 2007 01:25 GMT > Anybody have a list of carbs in nuts, *per ounce*, that they could > copy/paste into a post? If not, I'll just look it up myself & post > it sometime. > > All I found on the net was by the cup or T, as follows (fiber > already subtracted): It's frustrating how all the books and lists measure some things in volume, some in weight, and some things in guesstimates like "1/2 medium peach". How accurate is "medium"? Probably varies at least as much as my appetite.
The little Atkins carb-counting book I picked up does the same thing. I was looking at pasta the other day, because I was going to a dinner where the host knew I'm diabetic (it's easiest to just tell them that), so she cooked whole-wheat pasta for the spaghetti, since that's great for diabetics, right? (Yeah, I know.) On the same page, the book gives the amount for regular pasta by weight and the amount for whole wheat pasta by volume, so you can't even compare those two almost-identical items!
Anyway, as far as I know, you're stuck making up your own lists from the USDA database if you want consistent measurements.
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em - 30 Aug 2007 01:51 GMT >> Anybody have a list of carbs in nuts, *per ounce*, that they could >> copy/paste into a post? If not, I'll just look it up myself & post [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > medium peach". How accurate is "medium"? Probably varies at least as > much as my appetite. Even worse is the way they do things in stores with the prices. I really don't give a damn how much meat or cheese costs per ounce. Often times, you multiply out the price/oz and it doesn't match what they're charging. A real crock! The difference between .28/oz and .35/oz is $1.12 a pound. Not "oh, there's only a few pennies difference between this and that." Jerks. Marketing bullshit.
> The little Atkins carb-counting book I picked up does the same thing. > I was looking at pasta the other day, because I was going to a dinner [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > whole wheat pasta by volume, so you can't even compare those two > almost-identical items! I have a decent kitchen scale. Its digital, does grams/ozs and tare. I weigh everything that needs to be measured & multiply it out. When I was doing low-cal, people would comment when they would see something that is normally measured in cups, like skim milk, and see me weighing it out on the scale. Now, wow, I'm weighing my veggies and slopping on the dressing ;-) Looks odd to the uninitiated passer-by, for shizel.
> Anyway, as far as I know, you're stuck making up your own lists from > the USDA database if you want consistent measurements. I'll give it a day or two. I'd like to put together my own little book so that when I'm oot and aboot, I'll know what's what.
> Aaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz Good stuff!!!
Roger Zoul - 30 Aug 2007 16:26 GMT .
:: Even worse is the way they do things in stores with the prices. I :: really don't give a damn how much meat or cheese costs per ounce. :: Often times, you multiply out the price/oz and it doesn't match what :: they're charging. A real crock! The difference between .28/oz and :: .35/oz is $1.12 a pound. Not "oh, there's only a few pennies :: difference between this and that." Jerks. Marketing bullshit. Where do you shop? The stores I shop in never price meat and cheese per ounce as none buy them that way. Things that come in cans typcially will have price / oz, because that how they are commonly used. I'd object strongly to a store pricing meat & cheese on a per oz basis. Deceptive.
BlueBrooke - 30 Aug 2007 19:38 GMT >. >:: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >have price / oz, because that how they are commonly used. I'd object >strongly to a store pricing meat & cheese on a per oz basis. Deceptive. The additional "price per ounce" or "price per unit" information used to be great for comparison shopping, but not so much anymore -- not at my store, anyway. They've messed with the info so much, you still have to do the mental math to figure out which is the better buy.
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Aaron Baugher - 31 Aug 2007 01:10 GMT >>. >>:: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >>have price / oz, because that how they are commonly used. I'd object >>strongly to a store pricing meat & cheese on a per oz basis. Deceptive.
> The additional "price per ounce" or "price per unit" information used > to be great for comparison shopping, but not so much anymore -- not at > my store, anyway. They've messed with the info so much, you still > have to do the mental math to figure out which is the better buy. Yeah, I'll be standing there looking at two brands of cheese slices, and one will give the price per ounce and the other will give price per pound. (These are for comparison shopping between items that are priced by the package.) I can multiply by 16, but if it's only going to save me a few pennies, is it really worth it?
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BlueBrooke - 31 Aug 2007 05:24 GMT >>>. >>>:: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >priced by the package.) I can multiply by 16, but if it's only going >to save me a few pennies, is it really worth it? Yup --
Besides that, anymore I'm more and more "brand loyal." I read labels on new things, and stick to the stuff I know. So it really ticks me off when they change ingredients, etc., and catch me unawares. I'm a definite believer in reading labels, but should we *really* have to do it each and every time we pick something up? ;-)
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em - 31 Aug 2007 06:33 GMT >>>. >>>:: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > priced by the package.) I can multiply by 16, but if it's only going > to save me a few pennies, is it really worth it? That's what *they* want you to think. Fact is those "few pennies" turn into dollars per pound pretty damn quickly.
Aaron Baugher - 31 Aug 2007 13:14 GMT > Aaron Baugher said: >> Yeah, I'll be standing there looking at two brands of cheese [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > That's what *they* want you to think. Fact is those "few pennies" > turn into dollars per pound pretty damn quickly. Sometimes they do; sometimes they don't. I'm pretty cheap, so I do multiply it out and often there's no difference. I don't think they're trying to trick me. After all, if one item is $.49/ounce and the other is $6.28/pound, how is that supposed to make me buy the more expensive one? If I can multiply, I'm going to figure it out; if I can't, I'll be guessing and just as likely to pick the cheaper one.
More likely two different people made the price tags for those items, and one thought per-ounce would be more useful and the other thought per-pound would be. Never assume a conspiracy when incompetence is enough explanation.
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em - 30 Aug 2007 21:39 GMT > . > :: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Where do you shop? Los Angeles.
BlueBrooke - 31 Aug 2007 05:24 GMT >> . >> :: [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >Los Angeles. Well *that* explains it!
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BlueBrooke - 30 Aug 2007 02:15 GMT >> Anybody have a list of carbs in nuts, *per ounce*, that they could >> copy/paste into a post? If not, I'll just look it up myself & post [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >Anyway, as far as I know, you're stuck making up your own lists from >the USDA database if you want consistent measurements. I don't think there's any way to be completely accurate -- you can just do the best you can with what you've got.
I pretty much weigh everything, which is supposed to be more accurate, but it isn't perfect, either. A few months ago, I put my hot broccoli on the plate and while I stood there and watched, the weight went down and down and down -- I can only assume it was water evaporating. :-) Which is my next point -- aside from the confusion on just what a "medium" peach is, you then have the variable of how much of that peach is just plain water. I've had some pretty "dry" peaches and they were yucky! ;-)
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em - 30 Aug 2007 02:35 GMT >>> Anybody have a list of carbs in nuts, *per ounce*, that they could >>> copy/paste into a post? If not, I'll just look it up myself & post [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > peach is just plain water. I've had some pretty "dry" peaches and > they were yucky! ;-) I've been weighing myself daily and keeping a chart. I'm pretty visual thinker & have some background in statistics. I'm looking at the data and looking and looking, and its not making sense. I believe there is an unknown factor in weight loss and the reason the scale goes up-and-down so unpredictably, day-to-day and week-to-week, is because that unknown factor is not being controlled. I just don't believe that water is the root cause of "scale bobbing". We all seek to control calories or carbs (or both) and fret over the water content of broccolli. There is a missing factor, out there, damnit, and when I find it I'm going to tell the world, "This is the easiest/best/fastest way to lose weight".
(In the meantime, being the humble guy that I am, I'll stick to Atkin's plan. Really, though, there's a factor in weight loss that's being missed -- I'm sure of it.)
Doug Freyburger - 30 Aug 2007 17:31 GMT > I've been weighing myself daily and keeping a chart. I'm pretty visual > thinker & have some background in statistics. I'm looking at the data and [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is not being controlled. I just don't believe that water is the root cause > of "scale bobbing". Signal noise on the scale readings includes water retained for a wide assortment of reasons, food passing through the digestive system, variations in lean and bone mass and on and on and on.
Almost without exception folks want to lose fat and water with as little other loss as possible. Neither the scale nor the tape are able to tell us our fat mass, and no matter how hard anyone tries to control their water it doesn't actually work.
Folks try varying carb intake to trigger water loss, or cutting salt intake or whatever. Wrestlers even take laxatives to do spot reductions in what gets measured by the scale. None of these efforts change the amount of stored fat so what they really do is bounce the scale within its noise. It can be hard to understand that every measurement (or every sort ever not just scales) has some amount of error/noise in it. It is SO tempting to think that the scale says so-and-so therefore that means something about stored fat.
But the scale reading isn't completely without meaning just because there's an error range around the number it gives you this time. A new low is a new low, and a new high more than some amount above a recent low is a gain, but how to tell that range ...
> We all seek to control calories or carbs (or both) and > fret over the water content of broccolli. Someone frets over the water content of broccoli? WAY over-board on failing to understand that no matter how much effort you put into fighting water retention it doesn't work.
> There is a missing factor, out > there, damnit, and when I find it I'm going to tell the world, "This is the > easiest/best/fastest way to lose weight". When you find it you'll have a new chapter to add to the article "Why the scale lies". Losing stuff other than fat in the long run doesn't matter as much as losing fat. In fact, if there were a way to tell lost lean or bone the goal would be to increase those not reduce them.
Cubit - 31 Aug 2007 18:11 GMT Oh, the nuts you eat. I thought it was maybe a listing of low carb fanatics.
> Anybody have a list of carbs in nuts, *per ounce*, that they could > copy/paste into a post? If not, I'll just look it up myself & post it [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > TIA
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