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Roger Zoul - 21 Sep 2007 18:48 GMT
XXXX = Corn.

What's your?  Some doctor on CNN has a corn level of 69....determined from
his hair.  Supposely indicative of how much corn you're getting in your
diet...69 is close to average (apparently) for Americans.  Eat too much HFCS
and your corn level will go up.  Your insurance company might drop you.
Hollywood - 21 Sep 2007 23:53 GMT
> XXXX = Corn.
>
> What's your?  Some doctor on CNN has a corn level of 69....determined from
> his hair.  Supposely indicative of how much corn you're getting in your
> diet...69 is close to average (apparently) for Americans.  Eat too much HFCS
> and your corn level will go up.  Your insurance company might drop you.

Hrm, Corn Syrup, Corn Starch, Corn Oil, Vegetable oil, actual corn. I
wonder if
all the derivative chemicals (say the large percentage of the large
set of ingredients
in a Chicken McNugget) turn up as corn. For me, I've been low on HFCS
for about
a year now, low on the starch, very low on the two oils, and I cannot
remember the
last time I had corn (more than a year ago). So, I'm guessing I'll
take the under 69%.
Jim - 22 Sep 2007 01:13 GMT
>>XXXX = Corn.
>>
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> last time I had corn (more than a year ago). So, I'm guessing I'll
> take the under 69%.

This sounds like a setup for a new book which bases it's first chapter
on CORN and CHICKEN MCNUGGETS.

And the New Book (not really brand new) is:

============= Cut and Paste from Amazon.com =====================

The Omnivore's Dilemma: A Natural History of Four Meals (Paperback)

by Michael Pollan (Author)

Key Phrases: industrial food chain, killing cones, steer number, George
Naylor, Joel Salatin, General Mills (more...)

Exerpt from a book review.....

....You'll certainly never look at a Chicken McNugget the same way again.

Pollan approaches his mission not as an activist but as a naturalist:
"The way we eat represents our most profound engagement with the natural
world." All food, he points out, originates with plants, animals and
fungi. "[E]ven the deathless Twinkie is constructed out of... well,
precisely what I don't know offhand, but ultimately some sort of
formerly living creature, i.e., a species. We haven't yet begun to
synthesize our foods from petroleum, at least not directly."

Pollan's narrative strategy is simple: he traces four meals back to
their ur-species. He starts with a McDonald's lunch, which he and his
family gobble up in their car. Surprise: the origin of this meal is a
cornfield in Iowa.

Corn feeds the steer that turns into the burgers, becomes the oil that
cooks the fries and the syrup that sweetens the shakes and the sodas,
and makes up 13 of the 38 ingredients (yikes) in the Chicken
McNuggets.Indeed, one of the many eye-openers in the book is the
prevalence of corn in the American diet; of the 45,000 items in a
supermarket, more than a quarter contain corn.

Pollan meditates on the freakishly protean nature of the corn plant and
looks at how the food industry has exploited it, to the detriment of
everyone from farmers to fat-and-getting-fatter Americans. Besides
Stephen King, few other writers have made a corn field seem so sinister.

Later, Pollan prepares a dinner with items from Whole Foods,
investigating the flaws in the world of "big organic"; cooks a meal with
ingredients from a small, utopian Virginia farm; and assembles a feast
from things he's foraged and hunted.This may sound earnest, but Pollan
isn't preachy: he's too thoughtful a writer, and too dogged a
researcher, to let ideology take over.

He's also funny and adventurous. He bounces around on an old
International Harvester tractor, gets down on his belly to examine a
pasture from a cow's-eye view, shoots a wild pig and otherwise throws
himself into the making of his meals. I'm not convinced I'd want to go
hunting with Pollan, but I'm sure I'd enjoy having dinner with him. Just
as long as we could eat at a table, not in a Toyota.

======================================================================
You can read parts of the book online at the Amazon.com website.

Tiny URL http://tinyurl.com/yrp9t3

Long URL below:

http://www.amazon.com/Omnivores-Dilemma-Natural-History-Meals/dp/0143038583/ref=
pd_bbs_1/102-1684018-2132957?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1190419375&sr=1-1

Cubit - 22 Sep 2007 01:25 GMT
In time, they should have statistics of illness rates according to the corn
test.
It sounds interesting.

> XXXX = Corn.
>
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> HFCS and your corn level will go up.  Your insurance company might drop
> you.
em - 22 Sep 2007 03:20 GMT
> In time, they should have statistics of illness rates according to the
> corn test.
> It sounds interesting.

Every person I know that has died has eaten corn at one point in time or
another.

I used to eat corn every now and then, until I realized the correlation
between corn and depression, cancer and poor taste in music.

Its not the corn itself, you know, the problem is the fact that people cook
it. If you eat the corn raw you'll be ok.

Just my .02 on a Friday night.
Roger Zoul - 22 Sep 2007 08:17 GMT
:: Its not the corn itself, you know, the problem is the fact that
:: people cook it. If you eat the corn raw you'll be ok.

Why is that?
em - 22 Sep 2007 10:59 GMT
> :: Its not the corn itself, you know, the problem is the fact that
> :: people cook it. If you eat the corn raw you'll be ok.
>
> Why is that?

Actually, I have a very scientific answer for that. I do not know of even
one living person who has died from eating raw corn.

Hmmmm.... corn must be a very "paleo" kind of food. It is the only grain (I
know of) that is readily available, fresh, totally unprocessed and so easy
to eat raw. Its got some carbs to it, but I'm pretty sure an ear
here-and-there would fit into just about anybody's maintanance plan.

Corn is much tastier in the raw form as opposed to boiled. I don't know why
people boil it.
Roger Zoul - 22 Sep 2007 19:58 GMT
::: em wrote:
:::::
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:: Actually, I have a very scientific answer for that. I do not know of
:: even one living person who has died from eating raw corn.

Is this your sense of humor coming through?  If not, I'm at a loss.

:: Hmmmm.... corn must be a very "paleo" kind of food. It is the only
:: grain (I know of) that is readily available, fresh, totally
:: unprocessed and so easy to eat raw. Its got some carbs to it, but
:: I'm pretty sure an ear here-and-there would fit into just about
:: anybody's maintanance plan.

Except when it drives to you eat more carbs. There's this thing known as
"carb creep".
em - 23 Sep 2007 03:50 GMT
> ::: em wrote:
> :::::
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>
> Is this your sense of humor coming through?  If not, I'm at a loss.

My sense of humor leaves many at a loss.

> :: Hmmmm.... corn must be a very "paleo" kind of food. It is the only
> :: grain (I know of) that is readily available, fresh, totally
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Except when it drives to you eat more carbs. There's this thing known as
> "carb creep".

I suppose that's true of just about anything. I look forward to an ear of
corn now-and-then, at some point down the road.

Regarding raw corn, it really does taste much better that way.

Mike
Roger Zoul - 23 Sep 2007 11:32 GMT
::: em wrote:
:::::: em wrote:
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::
:: My sense of humor leaves many at a loss.

If that was you being humorous, then I get it. If not, then I'm at a loss.

::::: Hmmmm.... corn must be a very "paleo" kind of food. It is the only
::::: grain (I know of) that is readily available, fresh, totally
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
:: I suppose that's true of just about anything. I look forward to an
:: ear of corn now-and-then, at some point down the road.

Once you've become skilled at LCing, and really believe it is the right way
for you, you'll be able to have your ear of raw corn.

As Tunderbar says, it won't kill you.

:: Regarding raw corn, it really does taste much better that way.

Cool!
Cubit - 24 Sep 2007 03:12 GMT
> ::: em wrote:
> :::::: em wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>
> As Tunderbar says, it won't kill you.

Well, not right away, at least.

> :: Regarding raw corn, it really does taste much better that way.
>
> Cool!
Hollywood - 22 Sep 2007 15:58 GMT
> > In time, they should have statistics of illness rates according to the
> > corn test.
> > It sounds interesting.
>
> Every person I know that has died has eaten corn at one point in time or
> another.

Every person I know that has died has breathed air at one point in
time or
another.

> I used to eat corn every now and then, until I realized the correlation
> between corn and depression, cancer and poor taste in music.

I used to breathe air every now and then, until I realized the
correlation with
dying. Since every breath brings you one step closer to death, I
decided to
stop.

> Its not the corn itself, you know, the problem is the fact that people cook
> it. If you eat the corn raw you'll be ok.

It's been a lot harder than you'd imagine. :-)

> Just my .02 on a Friday night.

My two cents is free. I don't think raw corn is any better for you.
It's still
sugar in a crunchy yellow wrapper.
Roger Zoul - 22 Sep 2007 19:55 GMT
:: My two cents is free. I don't think raw corn is any better for you.
:: It's still
:: sugar in a crunchy yellow wrapper.

If you had to labor everyday to just survive, an ear of raw corn would pose
no problems.  The problems start when we sit all day and there is no need to
worry about where the next meal is coming from. Also, in the techno-age we
live in, we can make cheap products from corn.
Aaron Baugher - 24 Sep 2007 15:05 GMT
> If you had to labor everyday to just survive, an ear of raw corn
> would pose no problems.  The problems start when we sit all day and
> there is no need to worry about where the next meal is coming
> from. Also, in the techno-age we live in, we can make cheap products
> from corn.

And a century ago -- heck, even twenty years ago -- sweet corn wasn't
nearly as sweet as it is now.  Any gardener who gets seed catalogs has
seen the escalation from sweet corn to super-sweet to
extra-super-sweet and so on.  One of these years I expect to open the
catalog and see "Sweeter than the candy corn you get at Halloween!"

I don't know whether the overall carb content has increased, or if
they've just converted more of the starch into sugar, but I wouldn't
be surprised if the total carb load has gone up.  The same thing is
true of tomatoes and a lot of other vegetables; a lot of work goes
into making the latest varieties sweeter.

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