Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / October 2007
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tatecharlene02@gmail.com - 24 Oct 2007 05:34 GMT I am on a five carb 2000 calorie diet and i am haveing the hardest time can you help me figure out what things i can eat and what things i cant because i have been struggleing with this since march. when i found out that i have diabetes
DJ Delorie - 24 Oct 2007 05:48 GMT > I am on a five carb IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes. If this is the only reason why you're low carbing, you should (gradually) find out the MOST carbs you can have WITHOUT a problem-sized insulin spike. That's going to be a magic number that's different for everyone but once you find it, it will make it a lot easier for you to find foods to eat.
Eventually you'll learn which foods have sufficient proteins, fats, and fibers to slow down the digestion of the carbs you eat, which reduces the insulin problems diabetics have. Find a balance that works for you, don't try to be extreme if it isn't called for.
If you have an Atkins book, read the seconds on ongoing weight loss, maintenance, and the CCLL and CCLM numbers.
Alice Faber - 24 Oct 2007 05:56 GMT > > I am on a five carb > > IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes. Unless the "prescription" was for 5 carb exchanges, which would be 75 grams of carb.
> If > this is the only reason why you're low carbing, you should (gradually) [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > If you have an Atkins book, read the seconds on ongoing weight loss, > maintenance, and the CCLL and CCLM numbers.
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DJ Delorie - 24 Oct 2007 06:13 GMT > > > I am on a five carb > > > > IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes. > > Unless the "prescription" was for 5 carb exchanges, which would be 75 > grams of carb. That would be much more sensible, but if so, the OP needs to be more clear, esp on this forum where a "carb" is a gram of carbohydrate. Of such misunderstandings are major problems born.
Jackie Patti - 24 Oct 2007 08:59 GMT >>> I am on a five carb >> IMHO, five carbs is way too low, even for someone with diabetes. > > Unless the "prescription" was for 5 carb exchanges, which would be 75 > grams of carb. Either way, there's no way to know if it's too low or too high cause diabetes is not a one-size-fits-all type of deal; you have to test your bg to know if you're overeating carbs or if you can tolerate a bit more.
If the OP's "struggles" with low-carb have to do with cheating, I'd suggest doing a week or two of induction to break the overall carb addiction.
Then add carbs back in gradually, mostly from non-starchy veggies and low-sugar fruits, until you find the ideal carb level.
Weight loss in only one variable; diabetics must eat low enough carb to manage bg also: http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/NewlyDiagnosed.htm
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Getbusy - 24 Oct 2007 06:00 GMT On Oct 24, 12:34 am, tatecharlen...@gmail.com wrote:
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Susan - 24 Oct 2007 06:04 GMT Buzz off, bub.
> On Oct 24, 12:34 am, tatecharlen...@gmail.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 70 lines] > Natural Products > http://firstfitness.com/getbusy4u sycochkn - 24 Oct 2007 12:32 GMT > On Oct 24, 12:34 am, tatecharlen...@gmail.com wrote: >> I am on a five carb 2000 calorie diet and i am haveing the hardest [quoted text clipped - 69 lines] > Natural Products > http://firstfitness.com/getbusy4u In the food pyramid iceberg lettuce is under a diffeent classification than romain lettuce and spinach. The recommendation is that you eat.
1 serving of dark green vegetables spinach and romaine 1 serving of orange vegetables 1 serving of dry beans and peas 2 servings of starchy vegetables 2 servingsof other vegetables iceberg lettuce
each day
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Jackie Patti - 24 Oct 2007 22:18 GMT > In the food pyramid iceberg lettuce is under a diffeent classification than > romain lettuce and spinach. The recommendation is that you eat. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > each day I can't see what possible benefit there'd be to eating iceberg lettuce ever. Blech.
Not too fond of the starchy veggies either; for the most part, they're very much tasteless, boring foods with little nutrition for the calories.
And I'd rather eat fresh beans and peas than the dried versions.
I think it's better advice to eat 10-12 servings of all sorts of veggies, of as many colors as possible, with deeper colors being better than lighter colors.
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BASTARDO 65346354354 - 24 Oct 2007 18:27 GMT Helllo,
I have just started my diet, and restricted my food to:
-egg whites, fried, with chicken spice -low fat, low carb fresh chease 1pound=410kcal with chicken spice. -plenty of water
once a week I have some food like vegetables of fruits I have lost 8 pounds in 23days
You should find pro advice. And also get a second opinion. Every person is different, so get an expert opinion.
Roger Zoul - 24 Oct 2007 18:54 GMT Bastardo,
Why don't you restrict your food to:
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That should speed up your loss! Good luck.
> Helllo, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You should find pro advice. And also get a second opinion. > Every person is different, so get an expert opinion. Jackie Patti - 24 Oct 2007 22:12 GMT > Helllo, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You should find pro advice. And also get a second opinion. > Every person is different, so get an expert opinion. That's insane.
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BASTARDO 65346354354 - 25 Oct 2007 15:16 GMT > That's insane. Maybe, but it tastes so good, and I lost weight without working out. (2,7% of body weight in 23 days) A better spice is kebab spice, which contains garlic powder with pepper. Garlic is an antioxidans, and pepper is speeding up metabolism.
Also, both taste fantastic.
I usualy buy a 500g Meggle fresh diet cow cheese, eat a hole inside, put kebab spice, pour milk over that and than mix. When milk is mixed with cheese, apsorption is slower so you don´t feel hungry at all. And if I do feel hungry, I take a low fat yoghurt 0,05%milk fat (aprox.50%protein 50%carbs) I didn´t take any supplements except for magnesium 300mg. Before doing some heavy activities I usualy drink 1dl of juice (50kcal) and every half hour another dl. So far so good.
Plan.YandZ@yahoo.com - 26 Oct 2007 04:06 GMT > > That's insane. > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > Before doing some heavy activities I usualy drink 1dl of juice (50kcal) and > every half hour another dl. So far so good. Mister Bastardo:
I must say that this is the strangest diet I have ever heard of. What do you call it, the cheesehole diet?
However, if it's working for you, and you're a happy Bastardo, I spose that's cool.
c Bastardokins?
BASTARDO 65346354354 - 27 Oct 2007 16:07 GMT > Mister Bastardo: :)))
> I must say that this is the strangest diet I have ever heard of. What > do you call it, the cheesehole diet? It is a modified Atkins. I don´t eat meat, but I do eat over 50% of proteins, and also I try to keep the calories low. I now have the "protein powder". I didn´t know this can be so tasty. Loseing weight without training is realy strange, but it works. And I am not loseing muscles either(high protein diet).
> However, if it's working for you, and you're a happy Bastardo, I spose > that's cool. Cool gets as cool is. (would F. Gump say something like this?)
> c > Bastardokins? ???
H.L - 27 Oct 2007 17:49 GMT You're right in it being a modified Atkins. Losing weight by eating very few calories while not exercising will not help you in the long run. I hope that it is not what you plan to do.
UsenetID - 27 Oct 2007 17:48 GMT > You're right in it being a modified Atkins. Losing weight by eating > very few calories while not exercising will not help you in the long > run. I hope that it is not what you plan to do. Well, it's a modified SOMETHING...bears little resemblence to Atkins though - the REAL Atkins plan, not the one most people assume they know.
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BASTARDO 65346354354 - 28 Oct 2007 10:47 GMT > You're right in it being a modified Atkins. Losing weight by eating > very few calories while not exercising will not help you in the long > run. I hope that it is not what you plan to do. I plan to exercise when I lose enough weight. After that my diet will change and will include more proteins (2g per kg), more complex carbs like Popeye´s favorite food, oats, ... and also flaxseed oil and olive oil. My favorite activities are: swimming mountain biking karate training (I can break a 4cm*4cm*60cm oak wood with my hammer punch, and I like that)
I think that swimming makes you hungry so if you eat something like protein powder with milk, metabolism will be faster and food will integrate gradually. Mixing various proteins will make them slower to integrate.
palmerdavid26@googlemail.com - 28 Oct 2007 15:14 GMT Why Do People Diet? People diet for many reasons. Some are at an unhealthy weight and need to pay closer attention to their eating and exercise habits. Some play sports and want to be in top physical condition. Others may think they would look and feel better if they lost a few pounds. http://loose-weight-for-a-healthy-life.blogspot.com/
Doug Freyburger - 29 Oct 2007 17:18 GMT > It is a modified Atkins. I don?t eat meat, but I do eat over 50% of > proteins, and also I try to keep the calories low. I now have the "protein > powder". I didn?t know this can be so tasty. Loseing weight without training > is realy strange, but it works. And I am not loseing muscles either(high > protein diet). Are you aware that there's a book titled "Doctor Atkins New Diet Revolution" that gives directions for how to do Atkins? What you described is so far from the directions that caling it modified Atkins is nonsense. You're doing fine on your own, so call it that. A plan you designed for yourself that has no basis in Atkins.
BASTARDO 65346354354 - 30 Oct 2007 07:09 GMT >Are you aware that there's a book titled "Doctor Atkins New Diet >Revolution" that gives directions for how to do Atkins? I don`t eat meat (includeing fish).
trader4@optonline.net - 30 Oct 2007 13:52 GMT > >Are you aware that there's a book titled "Doctor Atkins New Diet > >Revolution" that gives directions for how to do Atkins? > > I don`t eat meat (includeing fish). What does that have to do with calling what you're doing modified Atkins? Your diet is so radical, it's not a modifed verison of any diet that I've seen. If it works, you want to keep doing it, and aren't worried about the lack of nutrients that you'd get from sources like vegetables, nuts, olives, etc. fine. But please don't try to associate it with Atkins.
BASTARDO 65346354354 - 30 Oct 2007 20:40 GMT > What does that have to do with calling what you're doing modified > Atkins? Your diet is so radical, it's not a modifed verison of any > diet that I've seen. If it works, you want to keep doing it, and > aren't worried about the lack of nutrients that you'd get from sources > like vegetables, nuts, olives, etc. fine. But please don't try to > associate it with Atkins. Well if it works I can write a book about it, but everyone hasn`t got the iron will to do something like this. I know a girl that lost 40 pounds with pure dedication. She first got a job at a bakery - two shifts. After that she went for 40km per day bike rides (2x20km). She had huge breasts before, bad sadly she lost half of them during her weight loss. I am still sorry I haven`t had sex with her while she had those huge ones. I have never seen that size naturals on a girl that is not so fat (she was around 130 pounds before the weight loss effort) After that she was not looking good at all. All muscles, smaller breasts,...
Ophelia - 30 Oct 2007 21:38 GMT >> What does that have to do with calling what you're doing modified >> Atkins? Your diet is so radical, it's not a modifed verison of any [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > effort) After that she was not looking good at all. All muscles, > smaller breasts,... That;s ok, she probably wouldn't be too impressed with your tiny penis anyway!
BASTARDO 65346354354 - 31 Oct 2007 07:08 GMT > That;s ok, she probably wouldn't be too impressed with your tiny penis > anyway! ROTFL It is not tiny at all and she was not so fat before the diet. She wanted to sleep with me while she lived together with another guy. So my size is ok.
Tom - 31 Oct 2007 02:18 GMT > > What does that have to do with calling what you're doing modified > > Atkins? Your diet is so radical, it's not a modifed verison of any [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > before the weight loss effort) After that she was not looking good at all. > All muscles, smaller breasts,... I think you need to get back to your cheesehole.
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