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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / December 2007What do you make of this?
So, I've been doing lc, with a slight break for fat loss for idiots -- which worked out fine, I lost four pounds in eleven days -- and then back to lc. fl4i was fine, by the way -- I think it's basically an extremely convoluted calorie-restriction scheme, but it works fine and you do in fact lose inches. But...for the long term, I'm back on lc. Anyway... Two days ago I figured I'd give myself one Holiday Party day. There was a big potluck at work and my mother was having another get together thing so I figured what the hell and ate like Augustus Gloop. This was the most outrageous holiday pigout, at least for me, since I never touch sugar or alcohol normally. I had a big handful of macadamia/white chocolate cookies, chocolate covered pretzels, christmas candy and so forth, and two supersize glasses of chardonnay. Harry and David pears, which tasted like cheesecake to me. The next day I woke up feeling achy. All day at work I was chilled and a bit dizzy. I thought I was coming down with the flu. By the time I got home from work at seven, my temperature was 102. Uh oh, I thought, I'm in for it. I fell into bed in a coma for a few hours, woke up and started with tylenol, water, then two hours later ibuprofen -- no appetite whatsoever. I was a little worried because the fever didn't seem to be going down after the first round of Tylenol -- it stayed at 102 and a couple hours later was at 101.9. The skin on my body felt hot. I remember feeling intense affection for my soft cool sheets. I was unconscious again by 1 AM. I woke up this morning, 10 AM, with nothing. No cough, no congestion, and a waking temp of 97 F. My belly is a little crampy but basically...I'm not sick anymore. Okay, I don't feel that great, in fact I think I'm going back to bed -- but I was expecting the whole catastrophe of flu symptoms. What do you think? Do you think I had an allergic reaction to white sugar? Or to alcohol? I've never experienced or heard of anything like this. 102 to nothing, in one day with no symptoms other than fever? ? c actually an alien species, but no one brings it up High temperature is greatly indicative of an infection of some kind, not a reaction from overeating or an allergy. Life is full of coincidences, people often mistake them for cause and effect. | So, I've been doing lc, with a slight break for fat loss for idiots -- | which worked out fine, I lost four pounds in eleven days -- and then [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] | c | actually an alien species, but no one brings it up >So, I've been doing lc, with a slight break for fat loss for idiots -- >which worked out fine, I lost four pounds in eleven days -- and then [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >sugar? Or to alcohol? I've never experienced or heard of anything like >this. 102 to nothing, in one day with no symptoms other than fever? Well . . . All I can tell you is that I have the same symptoms after a "pigout" and while the first day is the worst, it takes me three or four days to completely get over it. Actually, it doesn't even have to be a total glutton fest -- one cookie will do it, though that won't last as long. Hope you're feeling better soon. ;-)  SignatureBlueBrooke 254/225/135 > >So, I've been doing lc, with a slight break for fat loss for idiots -- > >which worked out fine, I lost four pounds in eleven days -- and then [quoted text clipped - 48 lines] > > - Show quoted text - You know, I've had this happen before: I'm eating really good and then, for some reason it just seems like it would be a great day for regular cereal or pancakes or some damn thing...and then the next day I've come down with a cold. I always thought that refined carbs poked holes in your immune system and I was just supersensitive to that. If there's any bug flying around, give me a couple of candy bars and I can make sure I catch it. That's my theory but I don't have any proof. Could be coincidence. c how many coincidences make an effect? c > You know, I've had this happen before: I'm eating really good and > then, for some reason it just seems like it would be a great day for [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > there's any bug flying around, give me a couple of candy bars and I > can make sure I catch it. This will all be speculation, but that wouldn't surprise me. Anything that stresses the body can make it susceptible to infection, and carbs trigger the release of the same hormones as being chased by a tiger, so I think carbs qualify. Bacteria love sugar, so I suppose I could be carrying around all the latest bugs for weeks, and not notice because they don't have enough fuel to overcome my defenses. If I have a carb pig-out, that'll lower my defenses and also give them more fuel to work with, and suddenly I'll have a cold, even though I technically "caught" it weeks ago. High-carb eaters might have a certain tolerance, the way an alcoholic builds up a tolerance to alcohol than a teetotaller doesn't have; or they might get sick for the same reason but not be able to make the connection like we can. Also, a carb binge can seriously dehydrate a person, which is another stressor, and which makes me feel hungover and achy like I polished off a fifth of vodka the night before. I don't know if dehydration alone could cause a fever, but we drink extra liquids to combat a fever, so maybe there's a connection there. Again, that's all complete speculation, of course; I'm not even basing it on a crappy observational study, unless I count myself--then I guess it's an observational study of one. "38-year-old male computer programmers report 38% fewer illnesses on low-carb!" I haven't had a carb cheat in a long time, but last night I went to a dinner where the reservations got messed up, so I wound up at a pizza place with friends. I was a good boy and didn't eat the crust, but I was still bloated and feeling all the symptoms of a carb pig-out afterwards. That was annoying. I wonder if there was a lot of sugar in the sauce, or maybe the diet soda fountain got stocked with regular. I wish I'd had my BG meter with me, so I could have determined whether what I was feeling was due to a blood sugar spike or not. Whatever it was, it doesn't seem to be lingering with cravings or anything today. SignatureAaron -- 285/254/200 -- aaron.baugher.biz :> Also, a carb binge can seriously dehydrate a person, How does that work? > :> Also, a carb binge can seriously dehydrate a person, > > How does that work? Eat enough carbs to store as glycogen. Glycogen gets stored dissolved in water. That water is drawn from other uses. > I had a big handful of > macadamia/white chocolate cookies, chocolate covered pretzels, > christmas candy and so forth, and two supersize glasses of chardonnay. > Harry and David pears, which tasted like cheesecake to me. There was "an incident" on my b-day a couple weeks ago & I'm just getting back into the swing of things. I ate ice cream cake, then the next two nights I had cookies. DAMN! I really am an addict. I did a two-day meat fast & went back to my normal healthy "high fat diet" (cough) eating plan. But I put on some pounds and am just now back to where I was two weeks ago. Talk about a hard learned lesson! > The next day I woke up feeling achy. All day at work I was chilled and > a bit dizzy. I thought I was coming down with the flu. I get light headed and nauseated. (Thank goodness for the spell clucker!) I don't get a fever, but I 'spose everyone is different. Sounds to me like you had a bug & your body just killed the little bastard. Humph. I was thinking the other day (uh oh) that the fight that goes on inside a person's body when they are sick, if those battling (white blood cells, viruses, whatever,) were scaled to size, what a battle that would be compared to anything that has ever occurred on Mother Earth. It would be like billions of people fighting in hand-to-hand combat, to the death! Do you think all those little guys are sensioned? (Sen..si...ent... chit, even the spell clicker won't help me out with this one!!!) Mike are all your parts in the same place? > Do you think all those little guys are sensioned? (Sen..si...ent... chit, > even the spell clicker won't help me out with this one!!!) :). Absolutely. Sentient. At least mine are. My immune system is in fact smarter than me, which is the only way we've both survived all these years. > Mike > are all your parts in the same place? c uh, I'm not missing any chromosomes if that's what you mean > What do you think? Carb overload. > <Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com> wrote > > > What do you think? > > Carb overload. yeah? Man. Carbs suck. c found my million dollar t-shirt idea >> What do you think? > > Carb overload. More like Carb Shock! All that sugar just makes you feel ill! >>> What do you think? >> >> Carb overload. > > More like Carb Shock! Yeah, that's what comes after the overload. On Dec 21, 10:37 am, Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote: > What do you think? Do you think I had an allergic reaction to white > sugar? Or to alcohol? I've never experienced or heard of anything like > this. 102 to nothing, in one day with no symptoms other than fever? Sugar hangover. Did it to myself just on Tuesday. No good reason, just did. Wednesday was terrible. Thursday was fine. Exactly the same things you were experiencing. And boy was I hot. > On Dec 21, 10:37�am, Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > did. Wednesday was terrible. Thursday was fine. Exactly the same > things you were experiencing. And boy was I hot. Really? With a fever? That's just..weird. The weird part is, if you were to try to get an idea of what people normally eat from television and the supermarket, you would think that all that stuff -- cookies, chardonnay, candy -- is just business as usual. It gave me a fever? I needed Tylenol to combat the effects? c The Supermarket is trying to kill me Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote: > > Plan.Ya...@yahoo.com wrote: > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > Sugar hangover. Consider this - Before low carbing if you ate like this maybe you actually felt like that but since you'd felt like that forever it's what you used to think of as normal. Lot's of folks feel a lot better after their first two weeks of low carbing so what if that includes a new improved concept of what normal is? I'm sure this is what happened to me when I started low carbing. > It gave me a fever? Fuel switch from slow fat to fast sugar. Leptin reset to increase your metabolism. Okay, it does make sense. Consider that folks often report a whoosh after a cheat - That whoosh would come form a temporarily increased metabolism and a fever does equal a temporarily increased metabolism. > I needed Tylenol to combat the effects? The effects do go away with or without the Tylenol, but the Tylenol can help your level of suffering. |
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