Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / March 2008
The much dreaded Plateau From Hell!
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Becca - 09 Mar 2008 22:22 GMT Okay, I have not lost a pound in 3 weeks. Three weeks!!! I watch my diet, I count each little carb, and I have not changed my diet since September. I am eating 25 grams of carbs per day. I was losing 7-8 pounds a month, until now. It looks like I am facing the much dreaded PLATEAU FROM HELL (aka PFH)!
Is there a cure for the PFH? Do we know what causes it? Has this happened to anyone else?
Becca
jcderkoeing - 09 Mar 2008 22:54 GMT Try eating less and doing some exercise.
> Okay, I have not lost a pound in 3 weeks. Three weeks!!! I watch my diet, > I count each little carb, and I have not changed my diet since September. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Becca teranews - 09 Mar 2008 23:44 GMT > Okay, I have not lost a pound in 3 weeks. Three weeks!!! I watch my diet, > I count each little carb, and I have not changed my diet since September. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Becca Hi Becca,
Yes it has, and water was the cure.
I'd try drinking more water. I hate plain water so I drink the Supermarket own brand zero carb flavoured still water (. I can easliy drink a few pints of this per day. I find when I reach a plateau, it's because I'm not drinking as much as usual. Drink more water and the weight drops off. I keep water in the fridge, because I read that the body has to heat water to body temperate before processing, and this burns calories. I've no idea if that's true, but chilled flavoured water is what I drink now. Give it a try ! -- HTH Rich http://www.richdavies.com/low-carb-diet.htm
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amyotte - 10 Mar 2008 01:27 GMT Hey Becca
Where are you on your weight loss journey? Post some numbers.
The PFH can hit but when I went thru these my body changed without the scales telling me so.
Your body maybe adjusting, how do clothes fit? - same, tighter, loser?
Don't look too much at numbers.
Brian 222/185/185 since Jan07
> Okay, I have not lost a pound in 3 weeks. Three weeks!!! I watch my diet, > I count each little carb, and I have not changed my diet since September. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Becca
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trader4@optonline.net - 10 Mar 2008 13:17 GMT > Hey Becca > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account fromhttp://www.teranews.com How much are you eating, ie what size portions? Calories do matter at some point. When you have a lot to lose, typically you can eat larger portions and lose weight. As you drop weight, you may not be able to eat as much to continue to lose weight. Remember, the idea is to eat just enough so your no longer hungry.
Atkins said aspartame and caffeine can inhibit weight loss in some people. Many of us here havent' found them to be a problem. However, if your having difficulty, you might want to try cutting them out temporarily.
Also, you haven't really met the definition of a stall, at least as defined by Atkins. He defined it as a month with no weight loss and no inchs lost either.
Excercise always helps.
msmollie@telus.net - 10 Mar 2008 22:17 GMT > Okay, I have not lost a pound in 3 weeks. Three weeks!!! I watch my > diet, I count each little carb, and I have not changed my diet since [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Becca hello becca, just browsing the blog spot and saw your PFH!!:) So quick answer to your question.... my Mom went to a weight loss program and they told her that when she plateaus, she should go on an apple day. Just apples all day for 1 day only. Cant remember the reason why it was supppose to work. Don't forget your lemon juice from concentrate. This helps to clean out your system.. I'm no pro... just relayin some info that helped her out. Best wishes in your (hopefully healthy) weight loss program
jcderkoeing - 10 Mar 2008 23:19 GMT On Mar 9, 2:22 pm, Becca <beccaNos...@hal-pc.organ> wrote:
> Okay, I have not lost a pound in 3 weeks. Three weeks!!! I watch my > diet, I count each little carb, and I have not changed my diet since [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Becca
>hello becca, >just browsing the blog spot and saw your PFH!!:) So quick answer to [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >info that helped her out. Best wishes in your (hopefully healthy) >weight loss program Apples aren't low carb.
Idiot.
HTH
Carmen - 11 Mar 2008 14:51 GMT > Apples aren't low carb. > > Idiot. > > HTH Still your regular cheery self I see. <G>
Still teaching?
Carmen
jcderkoeing - 12 Mar 2008 02:28 GMT >> Apples aren't low carb. >> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Still your regular cheery self I see. <G> It takes practice.
> Still teaching? In between all the federal and state mandates I still find some time for teaching, yes.
Becca - 11 Mar 2008 02:35 GMT Thanks to everyone for your suggestions! Like someone said, Atkins does not consider it a stall until it has lasted for 1 month.
For now, I will drink more water, maybe adding a little lemon juice, and I will monitor my intake more closely. I am caffeine free, but I do use aspartame and Splenda, so maybe I should stop using aspartame for a few weeks and see what happens.
My LC diet will continue, I will not give up because the scales are not moving. In time, they will move, I am certain of that. I refuse to quit!
My mother always said I was heard headed. She was right. LOL
Thanks to everyone, it is nice to know there are people out there who have been through this. It sucks to feel like you are alone. You people are the greatest.
Becca
Carmen - 11 Mar 2008 18:43 GMT > Thanks to everyone for your suggestions! Like someone said, Atkins does > not consider it a stall until it has lasted for 1 month. [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > been through this. It sucks to feel like you are alone. You people are > the greatest. Hi Becca. I'll add my two cents in here. Been doing this since January of '99, lost my weight, blah, blah, blah. Still doing lowcarb. It keeps me from being fat and it keeps my blood sugar in check. The one lesson that is more important than any other (IMO) is this: Calories still count
Lowcarbing (Atkins style) starts out with a "luxurious eating" plan that involves steaks and mayo and cheese. It is fantastic for easing the person onto the new way of eating. It staves off hunger and helps ward off the feelings of deprivation. There comes a point when calories will have to be addressed though. It's easier to just learn that from the start rather than later when you may feel betrayed or mislead in some way. Atkins does not mislead people about calories, it was mentioned, but he never made a big point of it.
Keep half an eye on your caloric intake while enjoying your food.
Take care, Carmen
wifezilla@gmail.com - 12 Mar 2008 00:08 GMT I went for almost 5 months without losing a pound. It still wasn't technically a "stall" because I was still losing inches. Now I am losing again. I never gave up.
PATIENCE!!! Low carb isn't JUST about weight loss. It is about health.
Measure yourself to see if you are losing inches. Increasing water intake is good too. How much cheese and cream are you eating? That is a common stall culprit.
Becca - 19 Mar 2008 01:56 GMT > I went for almost 5 months without losing a pound. It still wasn't > technically a "stall" because I was still losing inches. Now I am [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > intake is good too. How much cheese and cream are you eating? That is > a common stall culprit. Congratulations on losing again, and thanks for reminding me, that this diet is about health. I sometimes forget that. LOL
Becca
Marengo - 14 Mar 2008 01:39 GMT >> Thanks to everyone for your suggestions! Like someone said, Atkins does >> not consider it a stall until it has lasted for 1 month. [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >Take care, >Carmen Hi Carmen, long time no see!
Let me add a big "Amen!" to what you just said. I've also found that yes, the laws of Physics apply to low carb also, and calories do indeed still count. That's why I eat more unsaturated, less dense fats. Even if it's OK on the cholesterol, as many say, to eat the fat on the steaks, the piles of pork rinds, the piles of cheesecakes, the heavy cream and everything in between saturated with butter - those dense calories in all those saturated fats will catch up sooner or later.
I finally had to break away from Atkins after a few years now of swearing by the plan and having too many ups and downs (YMMV) and based on my own experiences have come up with my own hybrid controlled-carb plan ... and it turned out remarkably similar to South Beach. I eat no simple starches or sugar at all, but I find that eating plenty low glycemic fruits and vegetables, and occasional (gasp!*) high-fiber whole grains, combined with overall controlled carb and reduced saturated fats has kept me losing steadily for the past five months with no stalls or plateaus. 50 pounds now dropped since October 25th. Those calories do, indeed, count.
--- Peter 270/220/180
Marengo - 14 Mar 2008 01:39 GMT >>> Thanks to everyone for your suggestions! Like someone said, Atkins does >>> not consider it a stall until it has lasted for 1 month. [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] >Peter >270/220/180 p.s. For JC: Yes, I am exercising also. I started a new round of physical therapy a couple of months ago for old residual effects of a stroke 10 years ago, and I do 1 hour every evening of stretches and light eight-bearing exercises. I'm sure that has played a role in my steady weight loss also. I'm eating less ... and yes, exercising. --- Peter 270/220/180
jcderkoeing - 14 Mar 2008 02:49 GMT > p.s. For JC: I'm eating less ... and yes, exercising. Seems quite sensical. I hope it works out for you.
Becca - 19 Mar 2008 01:55 GMT > Hi Becca. I'll add my two cents in here. Been doing this since January of > '99, lost my weight, blah, blah, blah. Still doing lowcarb. It keeps me [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Take care, > Carmen You offered some great advice, Carmen, thanks. I will keep my eyes on the calories, as well as the carbs.
I get on the scales every Sunday morning and I write my weight down on a calendar. I have a hard time staying away from the scales, so it was depressing going 3 weeks without losing a pound. Two days after I posted that "plateau from hell" message, I lost 5 pounds. Whew, that made me feel better. I just lost another pound, which surprised me because I am taking prednisone.
Thanks Carmen, and like you said: Calories do count.
Becca
Doug Freyburger - 19 Mar 2008 16:21 GMT > You offered some great advice, Carmen, thanks. I will keep my eyes on > the calories, as well as the carbs. This is an often neglected part of the plan, but it is a part of the Atkins approach. It's written in terms of controlling portions rather than counting calories but that's only a matter of how detailed you want to be. Checking size of portions controls calories:
http://www.atkins.com/articles/atkins-phases/phase-one/the-rules-of-induction/
"5. Adjust the quantity you eat to suit your appetite, especially as it decreases. When you're hungry, eat the amount that makes you feel satisfied, but not stuffed."
That's the portion control part.
"When you're not hungry, eat a small controlled carbohydrate snack to accompany your nutritional supplements."
That's the part that boils down to "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure" - Treat food as a tool that can prevent hunger, but remember to adjust the portions.
> I get on the scales every Sunday morning and I write my weight down on a > calendar. I have a hard time staying away from the scales, so it was > depressing going 3 weeks without losing a pound. And you needed reminding what a stall is and that you weren't stalled. I doubt there's been a dieter in history comfortable with how Atkins defines a stall but his definition was carefully chosen and is not arbitrary.
> Two days after I > posted that "plateau from hell" message, I lost 5 pounds. Woosh. That's a big one.
> Whew, that > made me feel better. I just lost another pound, which surprised me > because I am taking prednisone. Prednisone wrecks havoc with metabolism but when you need it the stuff is amazing.
Becca - 29 Mar 2008 16:23 GMT >> You offered some great advice, Carmen, thanks. I will keep my eyes on >> the calories, as well as the carbs. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > Prednisone wrecks havoc with metabolism but when you > need it the stuff is amazing. Thanks for your comments, I do appreciate it.
Becca
Cälëope~ - 12 Mar 2008 03:18 GMT > Okay, I have not lost a pound in 3 weeks. Three weeks!!! I watch my diet, > I count each little carb, and I have not changed my diet since September. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Becca Yes. It happened to me after losing almost 50lbs. That was over a year ago and I tried everything. I haven't lost a lb since. It's very discouraging since I still have 30 lbs to go. --
Marengo - 14 Mar 2008 01:45 GMT >X-No-Archive: Yes > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >and I tried everything. I haven't lost a lb since. It's very discouraging >since I still have 30 lbs to go. Are you recording what you are eating using something like FitDay software? It makes a huge differenct for me. I wouldn't have believed how much I was actually eating every day until I started recording every single thing, no matter how small, that I put in my mouth. I attribute my ongoing success to this more than anything. You may be able to see where you need to cut back if you're not already doing it. As Carmen mentioned, calories *do* count also. --- Peter 270/220/180
Becca - 19 Mar 2008 02:01 GMT > X-No-Archive: Yes > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > ago and I tried everything. I haven't lost a lb since. It's very > discouraging since I still have 30 lbs to go. You lost 50 lbs, that is great. I hope you can still lose those last 30 pounds. They tell me that exercise helps, but I was not losing weight through exercise alone. I will spare you the details, but I exercised and lifted weights quite a bit. I could do aerobics for a couple of hours a day, and I would do more if time allowed. I would much rather exercise than diet, but my personal trainer told me that 85-90% of all weight loss is through diet alone, and not exercise. That was a real bummer to hear. LOL
Becca
readandpostrosie - 13 Mar 2008 16:20 GMT great thread becca! "a stall" if another great reason, to measure yourself by a tight fitting pair of NON-STRETCH jeans. the likely thing happening is that you are losing inches. carmen's suggestion about watching calories is VERY important!
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Becca - 19 Mar 2008 02:04 GMT > great thread becca! > "a stall" if another great reason, to measure yourself by a tight fitting > pair of NON-STRETCH jeans. > the likely thing happening is that you are losing inches. > carmen's suggestion about watching calories is VERY important! Thanks for the advice, I do appreciate it.
Becca
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