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CNN:  Being overweight won't fly -- not on Air India

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Manzaga - 11 Jun 2008 11:18 GMT
http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/06/11/overweight.hostesses/index.htm
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Story Highlights

* Until two years ago, Air India allowed an attendant's weight to vary
within 6.6 lbs

* Weight-discrimination lawsuits forced U.S. carriers to do away with
weight limits

* In India, the attendants are not deemed medically unfit -- just over the
weight limit

From Sara Sidner
CNN
   
NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Flight attendant Sheela Joshi is 5'4" and 148
lbs.

Her employer, Air India, says she is too fat to fly.

Joshi, 50, has been an air hostess -- as they are still called in India --
for the national airline for 26 years. But she's been grounded because the
airline has done away with its wiggle room on weight.

Until two years ago, Air India allowed an attendant's weight to vary within
6.6 lbs (3 kg) of a specified limit. It has since put in place strict
weight parameters that all attendants must meet. When they don't, the
airline grounds them without pay until they shed the excess pounds.

The airline says that someone who is Sheila's age, height and weight should
weigh 143 lbs (65 kg). She misses the mark by 5 pounds.

"It's very demoralizing," Joshi told CNN. "And ... it's quite humiliating."

"Weight is always on my mind," she added. "They can tell you, 'You look
overweight. Please go.'"

Joshi and 12 other grounded attendants sued the airline for weight
discrimination. Air India fought back, saying the employees knew the job
requirements when they signed up and didn't express concern.  Watch airline
defend its position »

Furthermore, it said, appearance and physical fitness are vital parts of an
attendant's job.

"(A) safety concern is also there," said Air India's lawyer, Rupinder Singh
Suri. "Because it's a high action job. And in case of emergencies, the
person has to accelerate and move at a very, very fast pace."

Weight used to be a consideration for airlines in the United States, as
well. Then, a series of weight-discrimination lawsuits forced carriers to
do away with it.

Now "most airlines want candidates with weight proportionate to height,"
according to the U.S. Labor Department's Occupational Outlook Handbook.

In the India case, the airline hasn't deemed any of the attendants
medically unfit -- just over the weight limit.

Their attorney contends the move is actually about getting rid of older,
well-compensated women in favor of younger ones who will do the job for
less money.

"They have spent their entire life working for Indian airlines," said
lawyer Arvind Sharma. "They were small girls when they came in now. They
are 45-plus and they feel bad."

The Delhi High Court recently sided with Air India in the case. Joshi's
attorney has vowed to appeal to the Supreme Court.

In the meantime, Joshi and some of her colleagues say they aren't taking
any chances.
The Master - 11 Jun 2008 14:09 GMT
> "(A) safety concern is also there," said Air India's lawyer, Rupinder Singh
> Suri. "Because it's a high action job. And in case of emergencies, the
> person has to accelerate and move at a very, very fast pace."

Do they wear pants, or restrictive skirts that prevents them from running?
Frank Hucklenbroich - 11 Jun 2008 14:49 GMT
Am Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:09:08 +0000 schrieb The Master:

>> "(A) safety concern is also there," said Air India's lawyer, Rupinder Singh
>> Suri. "Because it's a high action job. And in case of emergencies, the
>> person has to accelerate and move at a very, very fast pace."
>
> Do they wear pants, or restrictive skirts that prevents them from running?

Last Time I did fly Air India they wore Sarees ;-)

Regards,

Frank
Your post was successful - 11 Jun 2008 15:14 GMT
> Am Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:09:08 +0000 schrieb The Master:
>
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>
> Frank

nylon ? or flame retardent ??
The Master - 11 Jun 2008 15:21 GMT
>>> "(A) safety concern is also there," said Air India's lawyer, Rupinder Singh
>>> Suri. "Because it's a high action job. And in case of emergencies, the
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Last Time I did fly Air India they wore Sarees ;-)

I've never flown on Air India, so I had no idea...  Can a woman wearing a
Saree run?  I really don't know, I have no idea how tight or lose the
cloth is below the hips...  Assuming it doesn't restrict movement, what
about it's ability to get caught on arm rests as she rushes by?

If a "skinny" flight hostess can run around the airplane wearing a saree,
without a problem, I'd be inclined to think the airline has a point...
That is, they defined a safety regulation, the women knew that regulation,
and took the job anyhow.  It's like a warehouse job where they say "need
to be able to lift 50 lbs", and only only being able to lift 30.  Damn
right you should lose the job...

Now, if the clothes worn by the women are restrictive, and prevent free
movement or fact action, their argument isn't valid.
PeterL - 11 Jun 2008 19:53 GMT
On Jun 11, 6:49 am, Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroic...@aol.com>
wrote:
> Am Wed, 11 Jun 2008 13:09:08 +0000 schrieb The Master:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> Frank

But those are torn off sarees, specially made for Air India.  They can
be just ripped off to reveal track suits worn underneath in case of
emergencies.
The Master - 11 Jun 2008 21:13 GMT
> But those are torn off sarees, specially made for Air India.  They can
> be just ripped off to reveal track suits worn underneath in case of
> emergencies.

Ah, cool...  That answers the question, thanks...  In that case, tell the
women who don't meet the requirement that they don't have a job.
Lady Veteran - 12 Jun 2008 03:08 GMT
>> But those are torn off sarees, specially made for Air India.  They can
>> be just ripped off to reveal track suits worn underneath in case of
>> emergencies.
>
>Ah, cool...  That answers the question, thanks...  In that case, tell the
>women who don't meet the requirement that they don't have a job.

Somehow I think that is a fish story and it stinks to high heaven.

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George - 12 Jun 2008 04:54 GMT
>>> But those are torn off sarees, specially made for Air India.  They
>>> can be just ripped off to reveal track suits worn underneath in case
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>
> Somehow I think that is a fish story and it stinks to high heaven.

Wash your knickers and that fish smell will go away.


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Lady Veteran - 12 Jun 2008 18:27 GMT
>>>> But those are torn off sarees, specially made for Air India.  They
>>>> can be just ripped off to reveal track suits worn underneath in case
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>Wash your knickers and that fish smell will go away.

Taint me knickers-wash yer gob.

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Lady Veteran - 11 Jun 2008 17:53 GMT
Again, brain stem-have a thing about fat people? Are you a 40 year old
virgin?

If you got your head out of your a.s you would know that we in SSFA
are not interested in mentally challenged f.cks like you and anything
you have to say.

Got it virgin?

Now f.ck off.

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Runge12 - 11 Jun 2008 20:43 GMT
Yeah, right, rec travel Europe is the place to post your crap !
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> http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/americas/06/11/overweight.hostesses/index.htm
> l?iref=mpstoryview
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> In the meantime, Joshi and some of her colleagues say they aren't taking
> any chances.
Kaz Kylheku - 17 Jun 2008 23:17 GMT
> NEW DELHI, India (CNN) -- Flight attendant Sheela Joshi is 5'4" and 148
> lbs.

Oink, oink! Not even close to flight attendant material.

She's a good 30 pounds over what a 5'4" stewardess should weigh.

> She misses the mark by 5 pounds.

The mark is /extremely/ generous.
 
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