Hi All,
I am back on a low carb diet after a lay off for about 3 years. The
reason for it is simple, I have been over indulging for the last year or
so and am prolly about 2 stone over my ideal weight.
I am keeping below 20g a day and everything is going fine, but I am
finding that I am craving "something".
Its not hunger as such, but at evening time I find Im pasing about
needing "something", unfortuantly I dont know what that something is - I
guess its probably something sugar based :)
Anyone come across this and will it go away eventually.
I intend keeping at very low carb intake until the majority of my excess
weight has been burned off and then slowly increase it until I find a
safe level.

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Doug Freyburger - 24 Jun 2008 17:29 GMT
> I am back on a low carb diet after a lay off for about 3 years. The
> reason for it is simple, I have been over indulging for the last year or
> so and am prolly about 2 stone over my ideal weight.
>
> I am keeping below 20g a day and everything is going fine, but I am
> finding that I am craving "something".
Lesson form Atkins that appears to apply to any plan that
takes your carbs low enough to trigger ketonuria - The
initial cravings can last as much as two weeks but generally
less than that.
> Its not hunger as such, but at evening time I find Im pasing about
> needing "something", unfortuantly I dont know what that something is - I
> guess its probably something sugar based :)
Carb cravings have an interesting pattern. View the glycogen
stored in the liver as a "carb tank" like a car's gas tank. If
the tank is full there are no carb cravings - This is why low
fat programs often suggest munching on rabbit food at any
sign of craving. If the tank is partially full there are cravings.
If the tank is empty you're back to no cravings again. This
feature of carb cravings going away when empty is probably
the single biggest advantage low carbing has over other types
of plan IMO.
The liver isn't the only place that stores carbs. The muscles
store gylcogen carbs as well. But the muscles don't seem
to be as involved in the cravings.
A futher lesson from Atkins that will probably work for you -
In the 1993/1999 editions he said "Be shockingly unafraid
of fat". While eating extra fat won't make the cravings go
away it will make them much less sharp and it will make
them complete sooner. Of course this advice to eat what it
takes during the cravings is widely attacked by antis as if
the advice lasts forever. Nope, it only lasts until the cravings
go away. Eating higher fat, lower protein, during the craving
days takes it from a trial to get through cravings to a surreal
experience.
> Anyone come across this and will it go away eventually.
Vast numbers experience it. Atkins at one point suggested
that the harder the initial craving the more benefit the person
is likely to get from low carbing. The cravings can last anywhere
from a couple of days if fought with the strange high fat low
protein trick or as much as two weeks. For that matter, give
in to the cravings and have some extra carbs and you can
extend the cravings for a very long time. Because of how that
"carb tank" thing works doing the obvious of feeding your
craving a little bit backfires.
> I intend keeping at very low carb intake until the majority of my excess
> weight has been burned off and then slowly increase it until I find a
> safe level.
You're aware that staying low has its own potential issues,
right? It's obvious and if the obvious worked like that every
single low carb book would recommend it. Yet none do
recommend it. Funny how that works. Consider trying the
non-obvious approaches from the various books.
DB - 25 Jun 2008 00:40 GMT
"Gavsta" <gwilby@iom.com> wrote in
> Its not hunger as such, but at evening time I find Im pasing about needing
> "something", unfortuantly I dont know what that something is - I guess its
> probably something sugar based :)
It's just boredom, you're eating for entertainment!
A fist full of peanuts or Almonds fills you up real quick and the natural
fats are real good for you too!
trader4@optonline.net - 25 Jun 2008 12:42 GMT
> "Gavsta" <gwi...@iom.com> wrote in
>
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> A fist full of peanuts or Almonds fills you up real quick and the natural
> fats are real good for you too!
A fist full of peanuts isn;t going to fit in with low carb for someone
with a 20g a day carb limit.
Hilly - 25 Jun 2008 13:40 GMT
> "Gavsta" <gwilby@iom.com> wrote in
>
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> A fist full of peanuts or Almonds fills you up real quick and the natural
> fats are real good for you too!
Macadamia nuts or pecans are a much better option than peanuts or even
almonds for carb count. Only about 1 net carb per ounce.
Mark Filice - 26 Jun 2008 00:14 GMT
>Its not hunger as such, but at evening time I find Im pasing about
>needing "something", unfortuantly I dont know what that something is - I
>guess its probably something sugar based :)
Atkins writes in his book that if you have a craving, eat a dozen hard-boiled
eggs. He then goes on to write that most people wouldn't do that--but you get
the idea.
I have a variety of cheeses in my refrigerator and will eat a slice in the
evening if I get an urge to snack.
Mark
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Doug Freyburger - 26 Jun 2008 17:42 GMT
> Atkins writes in his book that if you have a craving, eat a dozen hard-boiled
> eggs. He then goes on to write that most people wouldn't do that--but you get
> the idea.
Are you sure that isn't - Make up a dozen hard boiled eggs
to have plenty on hand. If you have a craving eat one. If
the craving is still there in a bit have another and so on.
> I have a variety of cheeses in my refrigerator and will eat a slice in the
> evening if I get an urge to snack.
Variety is good. Cheese is good. Yeh cheese.