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Marnie - 05 Sep 2008 19:51 GMT http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/AlabamaHits ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx
Extra8/26/2008 12:01 AM ET
State to hit obese workers with 'fat fee'
Alabama state employees who don't try to lose weight will have to pay part of their health insurance premiums. It may sound heavy-handed, but the workers' lobbying group is not complaining.
By The Associated Press
The state of Alabama has given its 37,527 employees until 2010 to start getting fit -- or they'll pay $25 a month for insurance that otherwise is free.
Alabama will be the first state to charge its overweight workers who don't try to slim down, while a handful of other states reward employees who adopt healthful behaviors.
Alabama already charges workers who smoke -- and has seen some success in getting them to quit -- but now has turned its attention to a problem that plagues many people in the Deep South: obesity.
The State Employees' Insurance Board earlier this month approved a plan to charge state workers starting in January 2010 if they don't get free health screenings.
If the screenings turn up serious problems with blood pressure, cholesterol, glucose or obesity, employees will have a year to see a doctor at no cost, enroll in a wellness program or take steps on their own to improve their health. If they show progress in a follow-up screening, they won't be charged. But if they don't, they must pay starting in January 2011.
"We are trying to get individuals to become more aware of their health," said state worker Robert Wagstaff, who serves on the insurance board.
Not all state employees see it that way.
"It's terrible," said health department employee Chequla Motley. "Some people come into this world big."
Computer technician Tim Colley already pays $24 a month for being a smoker and doesn't like the idea of another charge.
"It's too Big Brotherish," he said.
The board will apply the obesity charge to anyone with a body mass index of 35 or higher who is not making progress. A person 5 feet 6 inches tall weighing 220 pounds, for example, would have a BMI of 35.5. A BMI of 30 is considered the threshold for obesity.
The board has not yet determined how much progress a person would have to show and is uncertain how many people might be affected, because everyone could avoid the charge by working to lose weight.
But that's unlikely. Government statistics show Alabamans have a big weight problem. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 30.3% are now obese, ranking the state behind only Mississippi.
E.K. Daufin of Montgomery, a college professor and founder of Love Your Body, Love Yourself, which holds body acceptance workshops, said the new policy will be stressful for people like her.
"I'm big and beautiful and doing my best to keep my stress levels down so I can stay healthy," Daufin said. "That's big, not lazy, not a glutton and certainly not deserving of the pompous, poisonous disrespect served up daily to those of us with more bounce to the ounce."
A recent study suggested that about half of overweight people and nearly a third of obese people have normal blood pressure and cholesterol levels, while about a quarter of people considered to be of normal weight suffer from the ills associated with obesity.
No intent to punish Walter Lindstrom, founder of the Obesity Law and Advocacy Center in California, is concerned that all overweight Alabama employees will get is advice to walk more and to broil their chicken.
"The state will feel good about itself for offering something, and the person of size will end up paying $300 a year for the bad luck of having a chronic disease his/her state-sponsored insurance program failed to cover in an appropriate and meaningful fashion," he said.
William Ashmore, executive director of the State Employees' Insurance Board, said the state will spend an extra $1.6 million next year on screenings and wellness programs but should see significant long-term savings.
Ashmore said research shows someone with a body mass index of 35 to 39 generates $1,748 more in annual medical expenses than someone with a BMI of less than 25, which is considered normal.
According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, a few states offer one-time financial incentives for people pursuing healthy lifestyles. Ohio workers, for instance, get $50 for having health assessments and another $50 for following through with the advice.
Arkansas and Missouri go a step further, offering monthly discounts on premiums for employees who take health risk assessments and participate in wellness programs to reduce obesity, stress and other health problems.
Alabama's new policy is drawing no objection from the lobbying group representing state workers.
Mac McArthur, the executive director of the Alabama State Employees Association, said the plan is not designed to punish employees.
"It's a positive," he said.
The Master - 05 Sep 2008 20:33 GMT > Alabama will be the first state to charge its overweight workers who don't > try to slim down, while a handful of other states reward employees who > adopt healthful behaviors. In related news, Alabama is working to redo it's image, by adopting a new state motto. Here are the 2 most popular.
Alabama, We hate more then just blacks. Alabama, If they ain't a protected class, it's not bigotry.
> Alabama already charges workers who smoke That's another problem. Smokers are treated like sh.t in this nation, and that too has to stop.
> "We are trying to get individuals to become more aware of their health," > said state worker Robert Wagstaff, who serves on the insurance board. Bullshit you lying sack of sh.t. You are trying to control people by punishing them. Taking away money from those who don't fit your idea of who they should be and how they should live.
DB - 05 Sep 2008 20:47 GMT "The Master" <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in
> Bullshit you lying sack of sh.t. You are trying to control people by > punishing them. Taking away money from those who don't fit your idea of > who they should be and how they should live. Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land of the fee? LOL
The Master - 05 Sep 2008 21:24 GMT > Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land of > the fee? LOL That's the common lie that the USA likes to say, yes. The sad part is, many people still believe it.
ricok987 - 06 Sep 2008 14:20 GMT >> Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land of >> the fee? LOL > > That's the common lie that the USA likes to say, yes. The sad part is, > many people still believe it. America: The Land of The Victim; Because you know, in one way, shape, or form everyone is victim to something...
DB - 06 Sep 2008 15:50 GMT >>> Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land >>> of >>> the fee? LOL >> >> That's the common lie that the USA likes to say, yes. The sad part is, >> many people still believe it.
> America: The Land of The Victim; Because you know, in one way, shape, or > form everyone is victim to something... yes, and only a government program can save the day, at your expense of course!
Walter Bushell - 26 Sep 2008 21:15 GMT > > Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land of > > the fee? LOL > > That's the common lie that the USA likes to say, yes. The sad part is, > many people still believe it. Actually America is the land of the imprisoned.
Patriot Games - 27 Sep 2008 19:27 GMT >> > Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land of >> > the fee? LOL >> That's the common lie that the USA likes to say, yes. The sad part is, >> many people still believe it. >Actually America is the land of the imprisoned. That may have been true under Clinton:
1994: 8.6% 1995: 6.8% 1996: 5.0% 1997: 5.2% 1998: 4.8% 1999: 3.4% 2000: 1.3% = 34.5% for Clinton. 2001: 1.1% 2002: 2.6% 2003: 1.6% 2004: 1.9% 2005: 1.9% 2006: 2.8% = 11.9% for Bush. http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/prisons.htm
You will note that DEMOCRAT CLINTON put 189% MORE PEOPLE IN PRISON than did Bush.
Patriot Games - 27 Sep 2008 19:29 GMT >> > Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land of >> > the fee? LOL >> That's the common lie that the USA likes to say, yes. The sad part is, >> many people still believe it. >Actually America is the land of the imprisoned. While many other countries are the Land of The Victim:
America prosecutes more people for crimes.
Adults prosecuted (per capita) (most recent) by country #1 United States: 48.029 per 1,000 people http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_adu_pro_percap-crime-adults-prosecuted-per -capita
America puts more convicted criminals in prison.
Prisoners > Per capita (most recent) by country #1 United States: 715 per 100,000 people http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pri_per_cap-crime-prisoners-per-capita
Many other countries don't prosecute criminals and/or don't imprison convicted criminals and THAT is why they have higher crime rates and higher victimization rates.
Victimization:
Property crime victims (most recent) by country #7 United States: 10% http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_pro_cri_vic-crime-property-victims
Rape victims (most recent) by country #14 United States: 0.4% http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_vic-crime-rape-victims
Robbery victims (most recent) by country #16 United States: 0.6% http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rob_vic-crime-robbery-victims
Total crime victims (most recent) by country #15 United States: 21.1% http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_tot_cri_vic-crime-total-victims
Crimes:
Car thefts (per capita) (most recent) by country #1 Australia: 6.92354 per 1,000 people #2 Denmark: 5.92839 per 1,000 people #3 United Kingdom: 5.6054 per 1,000 people #4 New Zealand: 5.45031 per 1,000 people #5 Norway: 5.08143 per 1,000 people #6 France: 4.9713 per 1,000 people #7 Canada: 4.88547 per 1,000 people #8 Italy: 4.19755 per 1,000 people #9 United States: 3.8795 per 1,000 people http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_car_the_percap-crime-car-thefts-per-capita
Burglaries (per capita) (most recent) by country #1 Australia: 21.7454 per 1,000 people #2 Dominica: 18.7892 per 1,000 people #3 Denmark: 18.3299 per 1,000 people #4 Estonia: 17.4576 per 1,000 people #5 Finland: 16.7697 per 1,000 people #6 New Zealand: 16.2763 per 1,000 people #7 United Kingdom: 13.8321 per 1,000 people #8 Poland: 9.46071 per 1,000 people #9 Canada: 8.94425 per 1,000 people #10 South Africa: 8.89764 per 1,000 people #11 Montserrat: 8.24323 per 1,000 people #12 Iceland: 8.11156 per 1,000 people #13 Switzerland: 8.06303 per 1,000 people #14 Slovenia: 7.93734 per 1,000 people #15 Czech Republic: 7.24841 per 1,000 people #16 Hungary: 7.15849 per 1,000 people #17 United States: 7.09996 per 1,000 people http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_bur_percap-crime-burglaries-per-capita
Frauds (per capita) (most recent) by country #1 Germany: 10.8668 per 1,000 people #2 United Kingdom: 5.28324 per 1,000 people #3 New Zealand: 5.14126 per 1,000 people #4 Finland: 2.86483 per 1,000 people #5 Korea, South: 2.80023 per 1,000 people #6 Hungary: 2.73688 per 1,000 people #7 Norway: 2.6769 per 1,000 people #8 Czech Republic: 2.61224 per 1,000 people #9 Canada: 2.61146 per 1,000 people #10 Slovenia: 2.43759 per 1,000 people #11 France: 2.35068 per 1,000 people #12 Poland: 2.0706 per 1,000 people #13 Seychelles: 1.60122 per 1,000 people #14 South Africa: 1.51263 per 1,000 people #15 Denmark: 1.48012 per 1,000 people #16 Iceland: 1.36484 per 1,000 people #17 Estonia: 1.35184 per 1,000 people #18 United States: 1.25721 per 1,000 people http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_fra_percap-crime-frauds-per-capita
Rapes (per capita) (most recent) by country #1 South Africa: 1.19538 per 1,000 people #2 Seychelles: 0.788294 per 1,000 people #3 Australia: 0.777999 per 1,000 people #4 Montserrat: 0.749384 per 1,000 people #5 Canada: 0.733089 per 1,000 people #6 Jamaica: 0.476608 per 1,000 people #7 Zimbabwe: 0.457775 per 1,000 people #8 Dominica: 0.34768 per 1,000 people #9 United States: 0.301318 per 1,000 people http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rap_percap-crime-rapes-per-capita
Robberies (per capita) (most recent) by country #1 Spain: 12.3265 per 1,000 people #2 Chile: 6.92522 per 1,000 people #3 Costa Rica: 4.79109 per 1,000 people #4 South Africa: 4.4434 per 1,000 people #5 Estonia: 3.56639 per 1,000 people #6 Mexico: 2.02555 per 1,000 people #7 Portugal: 1.6237 per 1,000 people #8 United Kingdom: 1.57433 per 1,000 people #9 Uruguay: 1.57114 per 1,000 people #10 Poland: 1.38838 per 1,000 people #11 United States: 1.38527 per 1,000 people http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_rob_percap-crime-robberies-per-capita
Obviously criminals can't commit crimes and create victims WHEN THEY ARE IN PRISON.
DB - 28 Sep 2008 21:45 GMT "Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.Com> wrote in
> Obviously criminals can't commit crimes and create victims WHEN THEY > ARE IN PRISON. Question is, why aren't the criminals on Wall Street in prison too?
Patriot Games - 29 Sep 2008 14:27 GMT >"Patriot Games" <Patriot@America.Com> wrote in >> Obviously criminals can't commit crimes and create victims WHEN THEY >> ARE IN PRISON. >Question is, why aren't the criminals on Wall Street in prison too? Be patient....
We will see some Suits doing the Perp Walk.....
Patriot Games - 07 Sep 2008 17:26 GMT >"The Master" <tardis@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in >> Bullshit you lying sack of sh.t. You are trying to control people by >> punishing them. Taking away money from those who don't fit your idea of >> who they should be and how they should live. >Does AmeriKa still claim that it is the Land of the Free or is it land of >the fee? LOL Yes.
Land of the FAT Free.
Home of the FIT Brave.
No fat beasts allowed!
Ragnar - 08 Sep 2008 19:40 GMT > >"The Master" <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in > >> Bullshit you lying sack of sh.t. You are trying to control people by [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Land of the FAT Free. Then I suggest you cut off your head.
> Home of the FIT Brave. Bravery has nothing to do with fitness, moron. Some of the bravest people out there are those suffering from terminal illness.
> No fat beasts allowed! But apparently we have an open door policy on dipshits.
Ragnar
Patriot Games - 14 Sep 2008 18:17 GMT >> >"The Master" <tar...@nospam.sdf.lonestar.org.nospam> wrote in >> >> Bullshit you lying sack of sh.t. You are trying to control people by [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >> Land of the FAT Free. >Then I suggest you cut off your head. Shut your pie hole, Fat Head!
Is this you: http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/azabounian/fat_big_head.jpg
>> Home of the FIT Brave. >Bravery has nothing to do with fitness, moron. Some of the bravest >people out there are those suffering from terminal illness. Its COWARDICE that keeps fat-bastard beasts from getting on the treadmill. Its WEAKNESS that allows fat-bastard beasts to eat like fat-bastard beasts!
>> No fat beasts allowed! >But apparently we have an open door policy on dipshits. Shut your pie hole, Fat Head!
John A. Weeks III - 14 Sep 2008 18:31 GMT > Its COWARDICE that keeps fat-bastard beasts from getting on the > treadmill. Its WEAKNESS that allows fat-bastard beasts to eat like > fat-bastard beasts! And its STUPIDITY and BIGOTRY that leads someone to posting this kind of hate talk in public. Please go crawl back into your hole.
-john-
 Signature ====================================================================== John A. Weeks III 612-720-2854 john@johnweeks.com Newave Communications http://www.johnweeks.com ======================================================================
Patriot Games - 19 Sep 2008 22:46 GMT >> Its COWARDICE that keeps fat-bastard beasts from getting on the >> treadmill. Its WEAKNESS that allows fat-bastard beasts to eat like >> fat-bastard beasts! >And its STUPIDITY and BIGOTRY that leads someone to posting this >kind of hate talk in public. Please go crawl back into your hole. Shut your fat beast hole you fat beastly bastard.
I don't "hate" fat beasts like YOU but I don't wanna EVER get behind one on the buffet line!
Bwahahahahahahhaha!!
Shut your fat beast hole you fat beastly bastard.
Get your fat beast a.s on that treadmill you fat beastly bastard!
The Master - 15 Sep 2008 16:32 GMT > Its COWARDICE that keeps fat-bastard beasts from getting on the > treadmill. Its WEAKNESS that allows fat-bastard beasts to eat like > fat-bastard beasts! It's funny that you speak of cowardice, when the cowards are the bat bashers who "gang up" on what they consider an "easy target". You search for a group that society looks down upon, and you gleefully join in.
The biggest coward of us all is you, Parrot Games.
*SQUAK* bash the fatties, bash the fatties *SQUAK*
Eat your cracker and shut up, democrat.
Patriot Games - 19 Sep 2008 22:51 GMT >> Its COWARDICE that keeps fat-bastard beasts from getting on the >> treadmill. Its WEAKNESS that allows fat-bastard beasts to eat like >> fat-bastard beasts! >It's funny that you speak of cowardice, when the cowards are the bat >bashers who "gang up" on what they consider an "easy target". Easy target? Well, certainly a BIG target!
Bwahahahahahaha!!
>You search >for a group that society looks down upon, and you gleefully join in. Ya don't have to search for fat beastly bastards! They're too f.cking fat to hide!
Bwahahahahahaha!!
>The biggest coward of us all is you, Parrot Games. >*SQUAK* bash the fatties, bash the fatties *SQUAK* >Eat your cracker and shut up, democrat. If YOU are more salt-free crackers and LESS cookies, cakes, pies, and buckets of mashed potatos you wouldn't have to troll for fat-pussy on that Accept-Me-I'm-A-Fat-Beast-Pig newsgroup!
Go ahead! Strap on that feed bag one more time, Fat f.ck!
SneakyP - 07 Sep 2008 05:59 GMT >> Alabama will be the first state to charge its overweight workers who >> don't try to slim down, while a handful of other states reward [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Alabama, We hate more then just blacks. > Alabama, If they ain't a protected class, it's not bigotry. Or those same people could choose to just stop paying for the insurance and getting the benefits.
>> Alabama already charges workers who smoke > > That's another problem. Smokers are treated like sh.t in this nation, > and that too has to stop. Then the tobbacco companies better pony up their share to medicare, like they were made to do in Florida by Fred Levin, et.al.
>> "We are trying to get individuals to become more aware of their >> health," said state worker Robert Wagstaff, who serves on the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > punishing them. Taking away money from those who don't fit your idea > of who they should be and how they should live. Making such policies illegal could have other ramifications, because of other things like age, sex, and marital status. We wouldn't want to discriminate now.
Wow, whoda thunk the insurance companies are hating people?
As if....
Life policies offered by insurers are very specific about health issues, and one of them includes weight.
Don't like to be insured, then don't pay for it.
 Signature SneakyP To reply: newsgroup only, what's posted in ng stays in ng.
Some choose to swim in the potty bowl of nan-ae rather than flush it down :0)
The Master - 08 Sep 2008 16:03 GMT >> That's another problem. Smokers are treated like sh.t in this nation, >> and that too has to stop. > > Then the tobbacco companies better pony up their share to medicare, like > they were made to do in Florida by Fred Levin, et.al. *laugh* Why not just abolish Medicare? Would be a lot cheeper then.
Patriot Games - 07 Sep 2008 17:25 GMT >> Alabama will be the first state to charge its overweight workers who don't >> try to slim down, while a handful of other states reward employees who [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Alabama, We hate more then just blacks. >Alabama, If they ain't a protected class, it's not bigotry. Alabama, No Fat Bastards Allowed!
Rod Speed - 05 Sep 2008 21:10 GMT > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/AlabamaHits > ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx
> Extra8/26/2008 12:01 AM ET
> State to hit obese workers with 'fat fee'
> Alabama state employees who don't try to lose weight > will have to pay part of their health insurance premiums. Great, WAY past time.
> It may sound heavy-handed, Nope.
> but the workers' lobbying group is not complaining. Neither would anyone with a clue.
> By The Associated Press
> The state of Alabama has given its 37,527 employees until 2010 to start > getting fit -- or they'll pay $25 a month for insurance that otherwise is free. They should do that right away.
> Alabama will be the first state to charge its overweight workers > who don't try to slim down, while a handful of other states > reward employees who adopt healthful behaviors.
> Alabama already charges workers who smoke -- and has seen some > success in getting them to quit -- but now has turned its attention > to a problem that plagues many people in the Deep South: obesity. It plagues the entire first and second world and much of the third world too.
> The State Employees' Insurance Board earlier this month approved a > plan to charge state workers starting in January 2010 if they don't > get free health screenings.
> If the screenings turn up serious problems with blood pressure, > cholesterol, glucose or obesity, employees will have a year to see a > doctor at no cost, enroll in a wellness program or take steps on > their own to improve their health. If they show progress in a > follow-up screening, they won't be charged. But if they don't, they > must pay starting in January 2011.
> "We are trying to get individuals to become more aware of their > health," said state worker Robert Wagstaff, who serves on the > insurance board.
> Not all state employees see it that way.
> "It's terrible," said health department employee Chequla Motley. > "Some people come into this world big." No one comes into the world OBESE, fool.
> Computer technician Tim Colley already pays $24 a month for > being a smoker and doesn't like the idea of another charge.
> "It's too Big Brotherish," he said. Like it or lump it, stupid hippo.
> The board will apply the obesity charge to anyone with a > body mass index of 35 or higher who is not making progress. They should be slugging anyone with a BMI of 27 or higher, regardless of whether they are making progress or not, because that significantly increases the cost of their health costs.
> A person 5 feet 6 inches tall weighing 220 pounds, for example, would > have a BMI of 35.5. A BMI of 30 is considered the threshold for obesity. Only in america.
> The board has not yet determined how much progress a person would > have to show and is uncertain how many people might be affected, > because everyone could avoid the charge by working to lose weight.
> But that's unlikely. Government statistics show Alabamans have a big > weight problem. According to the Centers for Disease Control and > Prevention, 30.3% are now obese, ranking the state behind only Mississippi.
> E.K. Daufin of Montgomery, a college professor and founder of > Love Your Body, Love Yourself, which holds body acceptance > workshops, said the new policy will be stressful for people like her. Like it or lump it, hippo.
> "I'm big and beautiful Liar. You're obscenely fat and ugly.
> and doing my best to keep my stress levels down so I can stay healthy," Daufin said. Stupid cow.
> "That's big, not lazy, not a glutton and certainly not deserving of the pompous, > poisonous disrespect served up daily to those of us with more bounce to the ounce." Stupid cow.
> A recent study suggested that about half of overweight people > and nearly a third of obese people have normal blood pressure > and cholesterol levels, Irrelevant to their significantly increase health care costs.
> while about a quarter of people considered to be of > normal weight suffer from the ills associated with obesity. Bare faced lie.
> No intent to punish
> Walter Lindstrom, founder of the Obesity Law and Advocacy > Center in California, is concerned that all overweight Alabama > employees will get is advice to walk more and to broil their chicken. They should be told to stop shovelling as much into their stupid mouths.
> "The state will feel good about itself for offering something, and the > person of size will end up paying $300 a year for the bad luck of > having a chronic disease his/her state-sponsored insurance program > failed to cover in an appropriate and meaningful fashion," he said. It aint a chronic disease, its just terminal stupidity.
> William Ashmore, executive director of the State Employees' Insurance > Board, said the state will spend an extra $1.6 million next year on screenings > and wellness programs but should see significant long-term savings.
> Ashmore said research shows someone with a body mass index of > 35 to 39 generates $1,748 more in annual medical expenses than > someone with a BMI of less than 25, which is considered normal.
> According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, a few > states offer one-time financial incentives for people pursuing healthy > lifestyles. Ohio workers, for instance, get $50 for having health > assessments and another $50 for following through with the advice. Makes a hell of a lot more sense to slug the obese what they cost instead.
> Arkansas and Missouri go a step further, offering monthly discounts on > premiums for employees who take health risk assessments and participate > in wellness programs to reduce obesity, stress and other health problems. Makes a hell of a lot more sense to slug the obese what they cost instead.
> Alabama's new policy is drawing no objection from the lobbying group > representing state workers.
> Mac McArthur, the executive director of the Alabama State Employees > Association, said the plan is not designed to punish employees.
> "It's a positive," he said. Frank Arthur - 06 Sep 2008 13:13 GMT fat people are disgusting
arnie wrote:
> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/AlabamaHits > ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > > "It's a positive," he said. jenius - 06 Sep 2008 18:32 GMT > fat people are disgusting > [quoted text clipped - 112 lines] > > - Show quoted text - f.ck off a.shole. anon.
jenius - 06 Sep 2008 18:29 GMT > http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/Alaba... > ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx [quoted text clipped - 107 lines] > > "It's a positive," he said. maybe the state shouls offer to pay for gastric bypass, lapband and gym memberships too then . jenius
Rod Speed - 06 Sep 2008 19:53 GMT >> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/Alaba... >> ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx [quoted text clipped - 116 lines] > maybe the state shouls offer to pay for gastric bypass, lapband and > gym memberships too then . jenius Bullet in the back of the neck makes a hell of a lot more sense.
Ragnar - 08 Sep 2008 19:30 GMT > >>http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/Alaba... > >> ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx [quoted text clipped - 118 lines] > > Bullet in the back of the neck makes a hell of a lot more sense.- Hide quoted text - I’ll bet you wouldn’t be so glib if policies like this were applied to not just the fat but also the fatheaded. I’ll also bet it would take a 230gr hardball 45ACP at minimum to even dent your thick skull.
Ragnar
Patriot Games - 07 Sep 2008 17:29 GMT >> http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/Alaba... >> ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx >> Extra8/26/2008 12:01 AM ET >> State to hit obese workers with 'fat fee' >maybe the state shouls offer to pay for gastric bypass, lapband and >gym memberships too then . jenius The State didn't make 'em fat beasty freaks.
They sat on their a.s and ate themselves into fat beasty freaks.
Patriot Games - 07 Sep 2008 17:24 GMT >http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourHealth/AlabamaHits >ObeseWorkersWithFee.aspx >Extra8/26/2008 >State to hit obese workers with 'fat fee' Hell YES!
Charge those fat bastards!
Everybody hates fat beasts...
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