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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / June 2009Whey Protein
Which brand of whey protein is good? In article <6ff80e64-6a1e-4c7c-9649-d88dae7fe7e5@i28g2000prd.googlegroups.com>, > Which brand of whey protein is good? See Wikipedia article: <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whey_protein> Major forms The only downside looks like price, and the use of words like "may", and "suggests". Tests suggest increased consumption of whey protein may be a good idea for lab rats. In other test results, try to find out who funded the tests. IIRC 80% of tests reflect the funder's previously held view, be it tobacco or GMO's safety. Wikipedia does have other articles about "Whey Protein" but they seem to be sponsored by members of the "Whey Protein Industry". Bottom line: "Whey proteins" offer amino acids you already consume, and possibly, in a more digestible form. "Whey Protein" contain branched chain amino acids (BCAA) high in leucine. BCAA are standard supplements for bodybuilders. Sorry I wasn't able to answer your question. A bodybuilder's site might be a better choice. Time for the acolyte to go back to gardening.  Signature- Billy There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Will Rogers http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn > Which brand of whey protein is good? I don't think brand matters all that much. What I care about is whether it's "whey protein isolate" or some sort of flavored whey based goop. I suggest going for the ones that don't have added flavor. Almost no one in western society needs to worry about protein intake. We're nearly all well above the minimum. The only supplementation issue is mixture of amino acids. For that the product to try is egg protein rather than whey protein. Same comments about flavored goop. One issue with eating more protein than needed is the body burns the rest as fuel. There's no storage mechanism other than building more lean. More lean is grat but the maximum growth rate is slow. The extra is burned and the urea comes out through the kidneys. Not a problem unless taken to an extreme. Since extra protein is converted to carbs near 50ish percent efficiency and does in a sense count as increased carbs if taken to an extreme - Substituting one meal a day with a protein shake is plenty. If you're making shakes from it consider adding oil to them in place of some of the protein. Calorie for calorie swap. Both protein and oil are equally filling, and oil seems to hold back hunger longer. Plus oil isn't burned by converting it to sugar at the 50% rate. The shakes come out richer for the same total calories. It doesn't take much oil to substitute calorie for calorie. In article <152a301d-713d-4053-bc39-34cf63b58d87@q14g2000vbn.googlegroups.com>, > > Which brand of whey protein is good? > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > come out richer for the same total calories. It doesn't > take much oil to substitute calorie for calorie. 1 gram fat or oil = 9 (k)cal 1 gram protein = 4 (k)cal Signature- Billy There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Will Rogers http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn > > If you're making shakes from it consider adding oil to > > them in place of some of the protein. Calorie for calorie [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > 1 gram fat or oil = 9 (k)cal 1 gram protein = 4 (k)cal Exactly. And a tablespoon of oil is 13 grams. The substitution of non-excess oil in place of excess protein ends up in smaller portions for the same total filling effect and somewhat better delay in when the hunger comes back. If a scoop of the whey protein is 30 grams aka 120 calories it's equivalent is a tablespoon of oil aka 13 grams aka 117 grams. The low level of accuracy in counting calories says that 120 equals 117 on the scale. So someone who makes a shake with two scoops of protein powder is likely to do better with one scoop of protein and a tablesppon of oil. There's a better way than actually using oil - If you're making your shakes with whole milk use some half-n-half instead of whole milk. Estimate the amount of cream so the total fat content goes up that number of calories. Shakes made with cream are much richer and better tasting. Do the arithmatic and measure the portions so you do end up the same total calories, though. It's easy to end up with a lot more total calories if you just pour in the half-n-half. I've tried shakes with a tablespoon of canola, olive or walnut oil in place of a scoop of pretin powder. It's okay for flavor. Sure enough just as filling and it does delay the return of hunger a little better than the all protein shake. I've tried mixing whole milk and half-n-half in place of one of the scoops of protein. It does taste better. I've also used all half-n-half (a bit under half of the amount of whole milk) and put in more crushed ice to fill the shake. The result is a delicious shake that's just as filling, holds off hunger just as long, and is a *lot* louder in the blender when it's getting blended. I was tempted to go get ear plugs. Flavoring tip - If you have vials of essential oil in your spice rack one drop is plenty for the entire shake. One drop of peppermint oil is a nice starter. After a few you might want to try grinding other spices (cinnimon, allspice, cloves all work), herbs (a bit of rosemary or basil straight from the garden works if you like those herbs). I've tried myrrh and frankinsense as well - Definitely for the kitchen experimenter and foodie. In article <74b68316-572f-4d3e-9989-9ce871cb7b7a@l21g2000vba.googlegroups.com>, > > > If you're making shakes from it consider adding oil to > > > them in place of some of the protein. Calorie for calorie [quoted text clipped - 47 lines] > frankinsense as well - Definitely for the kitchen experimenter > and foodie. Doug, thanks for walking me through that. Signature- Billy There are three kinds of men: The ones that learn by reading. The few who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence and find out for themselves. Will Rogers http://green-house.tv/video/the-spring-garden-tour http://www.tomdispatch.com/p/zinn |
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