Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / July 2009
Dinner tonight
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Susan - 28 Jul 2009 22:09 GMT To try and get this group rolling a bit more regularly. Here's our menu for tonight:
Grilled grass fed boneless ribeye steaks
Mixed baby greens with roasted garlic vinaigrette for Tom, and a bit of balsamic vinegar for moi.
Ina Garten's guacamole salad, I make it at least once per week:
http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/guacamole-salad-recipe/index.html
I substitute Eden black soybeans for the black beans and add a touch of cumin to taste.
Susan
Alice Faber - 29 Jul 2009 00:19 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I substitute Eden black soybeans for the black beans and add a touch of > cumin to taste. A small cube steak with real gravy (the gravy has less than 1 tbs flour).
A large green salad with cucumber, tomato, radish, scallion green, chopped walnuts, grated romano cheese and home-made vinaigrette.
A glass of red wine. Tonight's selection is a malbec that I'm still trying to decide whether I like.
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Susan - 29 Jul 2009 01:27 GMT > A small cube steak with real gravy (the gravy has less than 1 tbs flour). > > A large green salad with cucumber, tomato, radish, scallion green, > chopped walnuts, grated romano cheese and home-made vinaigrette. YUM.
> A glass of red wine. Tonight's selection is a malbec that I'm still > trying to decide whether I like. I know exactly what you mean. I decided the answer is a definite NO. Too muscular and fruity for me. I've been drinking a couple of really nicely priced pinot noirs for summer, but really like cabernet with steak. Didn't have it tonight, though.
Susan
Billy - 29 Jul 2009 08:43 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Susan I don't suppose that beans with ham hocks, green salad with seeds (sunflower, seseme, and poppy), and a Chilean Chardonnay is going to get me far in this conversation.
The conversation does have a nice homey feel to it. Kinda nice seeing the group function.
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Doug Freyburger - 29 Jul 2009 16:35 GMT > I don't suppose that beans with ham hocks, green salad with seeds > (sunflower, seseme, and poppy), and a Chilean Chardonnay is going to get > me far in this conversation. A chardonnay from Chile? I've had Chilean cabs and other reds but so for not whites. I tend to prefer beers over wines so I have very little wine. A couple of bottles of mead and a couple of bottles of other per year level of "little". My most recent beer was a Belgian Trappist ale from one of the lesser known abbeys. At 6.7% alcohol per volume it was as delicious as Chimay but the added alcohol did little to inprove it. Slightly tipsy off a 330 ml bottle of beer? Pass.
When mixing seeds do you have a specific strategy of just do it for fun? I tend to use only one type of seed at a time so if you have a strategy behind it please educate me.
Billy - 29 Jul 2009 20:54 GMT In article <d9502171-5457-4fa2-9cb4-0e2cc5f58e8e@d4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>,
> > I don't suppose that beans with ham hocks, green salad with seeds > > (sunflower, seseme, and poppy), and a Chilean Chardonnay is going to get [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > fun? I tend to use only one type of seed at a time so if you have a > strategy behind it please educate me. I have to admit to being a bit proletarian in my drinking habits. I rarely go above $5/btl. As long as the wine has no faults of commission, I can forgive faults of omission (like fruit). We are seasonal drinkers, mostly whites during the summer, and red during the winter. The Chilean Chardonnay fits that bill perfectly.
I really like German whites because they often are 6% - 9% alc. as opposed to the Robert Parker "craze" in Cailfornia, to have them soft and 14% - 16% alc. They make nice sipping wines, but not really anything I would want to go with food.
We usually split a stout after dinner (Barney Flats Oatmeal Stout from the Anderson Valley Brewing Co), otherwise it is German, Czeck, or microbrewery.
No rhyme or reason with the seeds. They are just there to accompany the dandelion and sorrel that we add to the standard salad compose that we concoct. IIRC the only one of value is the sesame, but it needs to be chewed.
Otherwise, I nibble on our hawthorn, and blueberry leaves, and drink Prunella laced water.
We are still trying to eat less red meat (no good consistent source of grass finished meat), which means that it usually ends up as a condiment. Just about completely done with white flour and rice (croissants are my last frontier). I have a crop of potatoes just about to come in, but it may be my last.
But it does raise a question, that if meat is good, and grain is bad, how are we going to feed 9 billion people in 40 years?
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Doug Freyburger - 29 Jul 2009 22:51 GMT > But it does raise a question, that if meat is good, and grain is bad, > how are we going to feed 9 billion people in 40 years? Answering the question of what works and what is healthy for humans, answering the question of what is economically feasable to feed an excessive population, the two give different answers. Humanity evolved in a time of low population and what works reflects that no matter the economics.
Fortunately it isn't as simple either meat or grain. Fruits and vegitables are also good. Time for lots of hot houses. And time for workable methods that control population growth. Fortunately good jobs and economic prosperity do work to control population growth. The industrialized global sector shows this. The relative timing of economic globalization and the related lowering of the birth rate, that's the major uncertainty. If it does not happen carefully, control will still happen but it will happen using conflict. Pray for your grandchildren that they may have massive global trade, lots of vegitables, and no nuclear war. Also pray that most realize that "carefully" does not equal "using government control to really screw things up".
Cheri - 29 Jul 2009 00:26 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Susan Sounds good. My hubby won't be home this evening, so I am having a couple of hard boiled eggs, a can of sardines, and a salad. Simple and nice not to cook once in awhile. :-)
Cheri
Susan - 29 Jul 2009 01:25 GMT > Sounds good. My hubby won't be home this evening, so I am having a > couple of hard boiled eggs, a can of sardines, and a salad. Simple and > nice not to cook once in awhile. :-) Definitely. All I did was make the guacamole salad, without the tomatoes this time so I wouldn't spike. And we had leftover homemade cole slaw instead of the green salad, too, as it turned out.
Lazy but GOOD.
Susan
Marengo - 29 Jul 2009 01:40 GMT >x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >Susan I had rotisserie chicken (bought whole and pre-cooked from my local supermarket) along slices of cucumbers and tomato (fresh from my cousin's garden) with a raspberry vinaigrette. With sugar-free Lemonade. --- Peter
Roger Zoul - 29 Jul 2009 17:11 GMT > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Susan That sounds good, but why are you still feeding the steaks? :)
I had stir-fry veggies with sliced sausage links (can't remember what kind) and salad. Quick and easy.
Susan - 29 Jul 2009 17:43 GMT > That sounds good, but why are you still feeding the steaks? :) LOL, very bad usage on my part.
> I had stir-fry veggies with sliced sausage links (can't remember what > kind) and salad. Quick and easy. I love Garrett County brand of uncured bacon, keilbasa, chorizo, andouille sausage, hot dogs, etc.
We often have a cheap, easy meal of their grilled keilbasa, saurkraut and spicy mustard, with or without Kontos Smart Carb pocketless pita.
Susan
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