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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / August 2009Las Vegas
I really have to laugh about this. I just spent 5 days in Vegas with my wife. We ate at some of the most wonderful buffets you can ever imagine, 1 or 2 each day. Prime rib, crab legs, lamb, shrimp, BBQ ribs, Mexican, Italian, Asian, French, you name it... it was there. I ate much much more than I would ever eat at home including sugar free desserts. When I got home I hit the scale the next morning and saw a 1 lb loss! My wife was so jealous that it was funny as hell. LC and lots of walking made this an even better trip.  Signature"Money Won is Twice as Sweet as Money Earned" ... Fast Eddie Felson JK www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > I really have to laugh about this. I just spent 5 days in Vegas with my > wife. We ate at some of the most wonderful buffets you can ever imagine, 1 [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > jealous that it was funny as hell. LC and lots of walking made this an even > better trip. That is the kind of story I like to hear. > > I really have to laugh about this. I just spent 5 days in Vegas with my > > wife. We ate at some of the most wonderful buffets you can ever imagine, 1 [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > That is the kind of story I like to hear. Like the rest of his stories, it is probably 100% B.S. Signature³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.² -Archbishop Helder Camara http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm >>> I really have to laugh about this. I just spent 5 days in Vegas with my >>> wife. We ate at some of the most wonderful buffets you can ever imagine, 1 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Like the rest of his stories, it is probably 100% B.S. B.S. is pretty popular now, They are debating National Health Care all over. > >>> I really have to laugh about this. I just spent 5 days in Vegas with > >>> my [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > B.S. is pretty popular now, They are debating National Health Care all > over. Considering about 70% of us want single payer, and our representatives have taken it off the table, I would say that it is a bumper crop year for BS. Call or write your Congressional representatives and let them know how you feel about health care. Do it soon, and do it often. We need real change. What we have now is United States of America http://www.photius.com/rankings/healthranks.html 37th in health care Avg. M F 24th in Life Expectancy 70.0 67.5 72.6 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_infant_mortality_rate 33rd in Infant mortality 2nd in Health Expenditures as % of GDP for 2005 at 15.2% Only beaten out by the #1, Marshall Islands (an American dependancy), at 15.4% in 2005 The record totally Hoovers. Signature³When you give food to the poor, they call you a saint. When you ask why the poor have no food, they call you a communist.² -Archbishop Helder Camara http://tinyurl.com/o63ruj http://countercurrents.org/roberts020709.htm > Like the rest of his stories, it is probably 100% B.S. Why would I BS about a 5 day vacation where I lost 1 lb? Does that sound like any kind of lie or exaggeration to anyone else reading this? Are you taking your meds or do you just have a personal vendetta against successful people? I'm in my 50's, married, 3 children, business owner.... what's your life like? Single, living with mom? Is your goal to drive me away from posting here? You are getting really close to killfile status.... yeah I know you don't care, but one less to read your posts will add to a long list I'm sure. Grow up. Signature"When you win, nothing hurts".... Joe Namath JK www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > Why would I BS about a 5 day vacation where I lost 1 lb? Does that sound > like any kind of lie or exaggeration to anyone else reading this? Are you [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > know you don't care, but one less to read your posts will add to a long list > I'm sure. Grow up. Actually from reading this group over many years, I've learned that it's not so unusual, for posters who are still grossly obese and new to low carb, to be able to continue losing while eating that much very low carb food. It gets much harder when one is only 20 lbs from goal, when every calorie can count much more. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Susan I mistakenly thought that you all would like to hear how my new revised plan was going. I've been LCing for 10 years, and reading and posting here off and on almost that long. I'll just move on and stop sharing here for now. Good luck all! Signature"Never bet on the end of the world because it's only going to happen once and how are you going to collect?" JK www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com hey jk, for what its worth, as a lurker, i enjoyed reading about your eating more and lost weight in vegas. and that while its tough trying to LC with prepackage food you are doing it. i too tried to ask a question here once. i was confusing low carb with clean eating. the only person who was kind to me was susan. the others basically ignored me yet wrote long epistles i guess to bait the others about my confusion. hang in there jk...you're trying and doing much better than me in my LC endeavors. catnip > hey jk, > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > catnip Hey thanks. I'm not unaware of life on usenet with the trolls, shut-ins, and "experts". I just thought it funny and extreme that I am accused of lying about a measly 1 lb weight loss! You can't make it up. LOL Signature"When you win, nothing hurts".... Joe Namath JK www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > > ... i was confusing low carb with clean eating ... So what do you mean by it? Everyone seems to have their own meaning for what clean eating is. Is there a book with that title perhaps? I remember someone posting "You on a diet" and asking about it before I'd ever seen the book by that title. > ... I just thought it funny and extreme that I am > accused of lying about a measly 1 lb weight loss! You can't make it up. There are biochemical reasons that a short term change in total calorie intake and/or a short term change in the carb:fat:protein ratios can trigger increased base metabolism and thus loss. The folks who think "a calorie is a calorie is a calorie" is more than a usually useful approximation and the folks who think that "calories in equals calories out" has the calories-out side fixed tend to not believe such easily repeated experiments. What you described is a very common stall busting strategy so I found it easy to believe. "JKconey" <theconeyisland...@gmail.com> wrote: > "Merry Merry" <catnipi...@msn.com> wrote: What you described is a very common stall busting strategy so I found it easy to believe. I wasn't bragging, only reporting how great it is to be on vacation, eat LC at a buffet, exercise, and still get a decent result. I still can't figure out why anyone would take issue with this? If I said I lost 10 lbs in 5 days of mad eating, I could see that being challenged. Signature"When you win, nothing hurts".... Joe Namath JK www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > I still can't figure out why anyone would take issue with this? People who have tidy little simple models for how things work don't like the reality that the human body is far more complex than they wish so they get upset when the complex realities break the simplist models. I have long since become convinced that's why. Folks want lower carb to be better no matter how low lower is, yet there isn't a single popular low carb book that says that. Authors spend a decade or more working on their books so it would be amazing if even one of them had failed to try such a simple and obvious strategy. Folks want lower calorie to be better no matter studies that show consistant refeeds resulting from extreme low calorie times. Folks search for extreme examples and use them to discount metabolic advantages and metabolic resets. Folks want it to be simpler than it really is. There are even folks that want moderation to work yet a single trip to the mall to glance at the crowd proves that moderation fails for vast numbers of dieters. Do some of these people actually believe there's even one fat person in a hundred who hasn't tried and failed many times at moderation? I've sure never heard of anyone overweight who hasn't tried that. >> I still can't figure out why anyone would take issue with this? > [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > hasn't tried and failed many times at moderation? I've sure > never heard of anyone overweight who hasn't tried that. Irony is that now that I found this new and more moderate method that's producing really good results for me, I just found out that I am insulin resistant, and may have to go back to a somewhat stricter LC plan. I'm experimenting now with eating more frequent smaller meals, while exercising. Doc assures me that as I lose more weight, it will help. Hoping for the best. Signature"Never bet on the end of the world because it's only going to happen once and how are you going to collect?" JK www.MyConeyIslandMemories.com > Irony is that now that I found this new and more moderate method that's > producing really good results for me, I just found out that I am insulin > resistant, and may have to go back to a somewhat stricter LC plan. I'm > experimenting now with eating more frequent smaller meals, while exercising. > Doc assures me that as I lose more weight, it will help. Hoping for the > best. Obesity, despite what you keep hearing, does not cause IR. IR and other hormone elevations cause hunger and obesity. You don't need to eat frequently, you need to eat under 100 grams of carbs per day. If you've been low carbing for 10 years and are still obese enough for a doctor to think your weight is causing your IR, something is amiss. You could have high cortisol at the root of your high insulin levels, not IR, as many type 2 DMs do. High cortisol makes people hungry and fat. I gain weight even on under 900 calories per day at times due to my cortisol levels. Susan > Hey thanks. I'm not unaware of life on usenet with the trolls, > shut-ins, and "experts". I just thought it funny and extreme that I am > accused of lying about a measly 1 lb weight loss! You can't make it up. > LOL Who accused you of lying about a 1lb weight loss? I object to your refusal to divulge and share basic information that would make it more possible for others to evaluate the relevence of your personal experience to our lives. Such as; how much weight do you need to lose? If it's a lot, that would explain why you could eat so much and still lose. What supermarket prepared meals have you found that are appropriate for low carbers? Not all of us will think them suitable, but for some folks, they may fit their WOE. You claim to have been low carbing for 10 years, yet you're secretive about your weight and what you're eating. That's not what this group is for, and I'm not going to apologize for pointing out how completely unhelpful your posting has been thus far. Susan > hey jk, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > there jk...you're trying and doing much better than me in my LC > endeavors. I'm glad to have been helpful to you. JK may or may not be doing better at low carbing than you are; we have no idea where he started and how his weight/health have improved over the 10 years he claims to have low carbed. Some folks have a really gradual route to low carb; I know I did, and maybe that's your pattern, too, catnip. Have you tried using free software at fitday.com to track what you're eating to see what breakdown suits you best? Tremendous help to me. Susan |
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