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Oh no!  Hood LC Milk is gone!

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trader4@optonline.net - 19 Jan 2010 13:09 GMT
I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
screwed this time.  Hood's CalorieCountdown LC milk is gone!   They've
come out with several new products called SimplySmart and the existing
CalorieCountdown ones are gone.   The bad news is the SimplySmart is
low fat and NOT low carb.  This just happened because I just bought a
carton of the existing CalorieCountdown chocolate this weekend.

http://www.hood.com/Products/prodListColl.aspx?id=862

This was one great product that AFAIK, will be impossible to
replace.    It's really sad that we're back to the low fat thing
again.   We can all contact them and complain, but I doubt it will do
any good.  Probably 6 of us left here and I don't know how many of you
had it available where you are.   Hood is based in MA.  I'm sure the
product just didn't move well enough off the store shelves.
FOB - 19 Jan 2010 18:29 GMT
I'm not surprised to hear this, it slowly disappeared from our Krogers here,
they would have it once in a while, then not at all.  I didn't drink it,
only used it in my LC muffins and have switched to yogurt for them.

I want to scream when people talk about how they can't eat any fat and how
expensive their statins are.  I try to educate them but it is hard when I'm
going against their doctors' advice.  I did keep my SO from going on
statins, he's definitely in the old man group where research has shown they
don't do any good. I was most concerned about the reported cases of memory
loss, he has none to spare. His doctor said if he wasn't going to take them
he should eat oatmeal so I have been more than happy to fix oatmeal for him
as a substitute.  Carbs are not a problem for him, he has never been
overweight in his life.

| I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
| screwed this time.  Hood's CalorieCountdown LC milk is gone!   They've
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| had it available where you are.   Hood is based in MA.  I'm sure the
| product just didn't move well enough off the store shelves.
JK Coney - 19 Jan 2010 23:59 GMT
>I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
> screwed this time.  Hood's CalorieCountdown LC milk is gone!   They've
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> had it available where you are.   Hood is based in MA.  I'm sure the
> product just didn't move well enough off the store shelves.

    I still see it on the shelves... is this official?

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BlueBrooke - 20 Jan 2010 04:37 GMT
> >I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
> > screwed this time.  Hood's CalorieCountdown LC milk is gone!   They've
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>
>      I still see it on the shelves... is this official?

I'm wondering if they haven't been phasing it out for a long time.  I
never used it, but did check for it when this came up before -- and it
wasn't there.  So our stores haven't carried it for a year or two, at
least.
trader4@optonline.net - 20 Jan 2010 12:10 GMT
> > <trad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
> >news:b41a7cf5-fa18-45bd-8bcf-7ac2c2186f33@30g2000yqu.googlegroups.com...
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> wasn't there.  So our stores haven't carried it for a year or two, at
> least.  - Hide quoted text -

Oh no!    Looks like I was wrong!   :)

Here's what happened.   I could not find it here at my local Shoprite
anymore and the shelf space was now occupied by their SimplySmart low
fat product which I had not seen before.   So, I went to the Hood
website and looked under the milk product category.   It was not
there, just the other Hood mild products.   From that I concluded it
was gone.   After JK's question I just googled on Hood
CalorieCountdown and it turns out it's still on their website under
it's own CalorieCountdown product heading, completely seperate from
the other milk products.  It's strange that they list all the other
modified milk products, eg fat free under milk but put
CalorieCountdown elsewhere.

So, sorry for the apparently false alarm.  So, I guess it's time for
me to go ask Shoprite to bring it back or find it elsewhere.  I've
done some looking already elsewhere and haven't been successful.  The
last one I bought was Chocolate at Wegmans last weekend, that was all
they had and the shelf space was also occupied by the SimplySmart
product that I had not seen before.   I do hope it continues to be
available here at some store.
JK Coney - 20 Jan 2010 16:23 GMT
>>      I still see it on the shelves... is this official?
>
> I'm wondering if they haven't been phasing it out for a long time.  I
> never used it, but did check for it when this came up before -- and it
> wasn't there.  So our stores haven't carried it for a year or two, at
> least.

       Phased out locally is probably more accurate. We have 5 big
supermarkets within a few miles, and only 1 carries it, but they always have
it. You need to pester them to stock it.

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BlueBrooke - 20 Jan 2010 20:39 GMT
> >>      I still see it on the shelves... is this official?
> >
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> supermarkets within a few miles, and only 1 carries it, but they always have
> it. You need to pester them to stock it.

I've been down this road with them before.  If it doesn't have
anything to do with frying catfish, they aren't interested.  :-D  

Like I said, I've never used it.  There are a lot of LC products that
I *do* use, however, that are disappearing -- like the LC ketchup and
the LC tortillas.  I'm kind of glad about the LC tortillas, though.  I
always thought $4.00 for eight tortillas was a little ridiculous. Must
be some very expensive sawdust they've got in those.  :-)
Susan - 20 Jan 2010 22:05 GMT
> Like I said, I've never used it.  There are a lot of LC products that
> I *do* use, however, that are disappearing -- like the LC ketchup and
> the LC tortillas.  I'm kind of glad about the LC tortillas, though.  I
> always thought $4.00 for eight tortillas was a little ridiculous. Must
> be some very expensive sawdust they've got in those.  :-)

A lot of those LC tortillas are made with hydrogenated fats, I've
noticed, though Mission may've reformulated.  Netrition.com always has a
decent selection. Trader Joe's often has some.  So do most of my stores.

I never understood why anyone would buy Hoods with added sweetener
instead of adding water to heavy cream or half and half. Adding
sweetzfree if so inclined?

Susan
trader4@optonline.net - 21 Jan 2010 12:51 GMT
> x-no-archive: Yes
>
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>
> Susan

Because the Hood CarbCountdown tastes better.  No matter what ratio
you mix water to cream it's either still too fatty and cream like or
when diluted more, becomes more watery.  If I can't get the Hood, I
would go that route, but until then, I think the Hood is better.
JK Coney - 21 Jan 2010 18:23 GMT
> x-no-archive: Yes
>
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> Susan

Because the Hood CarbCountdown tastes better.  No matter what ratio
you mix water to cream it's either still too fatty and cream like or
when diluted more, becomes more watery.  If I can't get the Hood, I
would go that route, but until then, I think the Hood is better.

  .....and what continues to elude many here, is the simple fact that some
of us don't want to mix and concoct when buying a ready made product is the
answer. For me anything that helps keep me on the LC path is well worth the
price I may pay in money, and healthier ingredients.

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trader4@optonline.net - 23 Jan 2010 13:21 GMT
> <trad...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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I'm going to do a little experimenting with the cream and water to see
if I can make it taste and have mouth feel closer to milk.   The hood
chocolate product has locust bean gum and carraggenan in it.   My
first thought is to try mixing in a small amount of xanathan gum.

Susan has a point.  If the Hood does disappear, the cream and milk is
a good recovery plan.   And unlike many things we'd have to make
ourselves, it's very easy and also a lot cheaper than the Hood
product.  Now if someone could just figure out how to make those damn
Atkins cereal flakes.....
Walter Bushell - 28 Jan 2010 14:01 GMT
> I've been down this road with them before.  If it doesn't have
> anything to do with frying catfish, they aren't interested.  :-D  

Good side of that is that you can get lard.

So I'm in a Southern town and ask the cabbie where can I get lard, and
he says, "That's the first time I've heard that question in the
pluperfect subjunctive".

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Doug Freyburger - 28 Jan 2010 16:56 GMT
> Good side of that is that you can get lard.
>
> So I'm in a Southern town and ask the cabbie where can I get lard, and
> he says, "That's the first time I've heard that question in the
> pluperfect subjunctive".

Chortle.  The first time I heard that it was shopping for scrod in
Boston - Where can I get scrod?  ;^)
Walter Bushell - 30 Jan 2010 04:09 GMT
> > Good side of that is that you can get lard.
> >
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> Chortle.  The first time I heard that it was shopping for scrod in
> Boston - Where can I get scrod?  ;^)

I just rang a change on that joke.

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Doug Freyburger - 01 Feb 2010 16:13 GMT
Walter Bushell wrote in his .signature file:

>  A computer without Microsoft is like a chocolate cake without mustard.

Chuckle.  I figure I can even morph that into a low carb comment.

A BBQ sauce without sugar is building a fire in the pit without throwing
the family pet cat into the pit.

Even before I started low carbing I didn't get the point of adding sugar
to meat.  Honey on ham?  Pass.  Sugar in a BBQ sauce?  Sugar free dry
rubs beat them every time IMO.  Then again I liked ketchup and didn't
realize just how much sugar is in it.

Does anyone make their own sugarless BBQ sauces?  It's been a lot of
years since I made one but it was wonderfull.  I like vinegary sauces
and that helps.

Start with a cup of red wine vinegar.  Stir in a mixture of spices until
it reaches the thin consistancy of a regular BBQ sauce.  Rest it in the
refrigerator at least 2 hours to marry the flavors, stir back to a thin
consistancy and use as a mop while cooking meat.

I liked to use powdered pascilla chillis (they are not hot to me), a
little bit of powdered ancho chillis (for the heat), powdered mustard,
several other types of powdered seeds, garlic powder and a tiny bit of
powdered cumin.  No exact recipe just get what looked good that day at
the display of powdered herbs in the Mexican section.

I wonder of the powdered parts would be too intense for a dry rub if
mixed 50-50 with salt and 100-0 with no sugar added.
FOB - 01 Feb 2010 19:21 GMT
I have made a similar sauce starting with vinegar in the blender and adding
a variety of whole dried chiles and a bit of salt.  We have a BBQ place here
that makes a similar sauce (used to be two but one shut down) and I have
never quite been able to duplicate it but this is close.  We much prefer it
to the sweet tomato based sauces though those have their place.  Just bought
an interesting sauce from Soupbase.com, it has a few carbs but you don't
want to use very much of it unless your mouth is lined with firebricks:
http://www.soupbase.com/view.asp?cid=2701  Had some on chicken and it was
quite nice.

| Walter Bushell wrote in his .signature file:
| >
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| I wonder of the powdered parts would be too intense for a dry rub if
| mixed 50-50 with salt and 100-0 with no sugar added.
trader4@optonline.net - 02 Feb 2010 20:54 GMT
> I have made a similar sauce starting with vinegar in the blender and adding
> a variety of whole dried chiles and a bit of salt.  We have a BBQ place here
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> | I wonder of the powdered parts would be too intense for a dry rub if
> | mixed 50-50 with salt and 100-0 with no sugar added.

I make barbecue sauce in large batches and then freeze it.  It lasts a
long time and tastes as good as most of the ones you'd find at a
barbecue restaurant.    I do use tomato sauce and splenda, but the
carb count is reasonable as long as you don't use too much at one time.
Jean B. - 05 Feb 2010 13:35 GMT
>> Good side of that is that you can get lard.
>>
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> Chortle.  The first time I heard that it was shopping for scrod in
> Boston - Where can I get scrod?  ;^)

Somewhere I have a t-shirt that reads, IIRC, I got Scrod in Boston.

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Jean B. - 05 Feb 2010 13:34 GMT
> I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
> screwed this time.  Hood's CalorieCountdown LC milk is gone!   They've
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> had it available where you are.   Hood is based in MA.  I'm sure the
> product just didn't move well enough off the store shelves.

That is a tragedy!  So, now I have to use cream?  I did so like
having this product!

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Jean B. - 05 Feb 2010 13:36 GMT
> I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
> screwed this time.  Hood's CalorieCountdown LC milk is gone!   They've
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> had it available where you are.   Hood is based in MA.  I'm sure the
> product just didn't move well enough off the store shelves.

Oops.  Just noticed that this thread is somewhat old.  I will add
that I just got Calorie Countdown here near Boston within the last
few days.  I HOPE that means it is still being produced--and that
the store isn't just putting out what they already had.

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trader4@optonline.net - 06 Feb 2010 15:59 GMT
> trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> > I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
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> - Show quoted text -

The confusion was caused by me.   It disappeared from my supermarket
here in NJ, which was the only one carrying it.   I went to the Hood
website and looked under milk products and it was not there.  From
that, I concluded it must be gone.   However, by googling for it I did
find it on the Hood website under it's own product category, seperate
from all the other milk.   Which is kind of strange.

But, I don't think the future looks very good for this.  A few years
ago, many stores here had it.    So, with less shelf space and less
sales, I wouldn't be surprised to see it be discontinued.
JK Coney - 06 Feb 2010 21:50 GMT
On Feb 5, 8:36 am, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
> trad...@optonline.net wrote:
> > I was afraid this day would come and it looks like we're really
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>
> - Show quoted text -

The confusion was caused by me.   It disappeared from my supermarket
here in NJ, which was the only one carrying it.   I went to the Hood
website and looked under milk products and it was not there.  From
that, I concluded it must be gone.   However, by googling for it I did
find it on the Hood website under it's own product category, seperate
from all the other milk.   Which is kind of strange.

But, I don't think the future looks very good for this.  A few years
ago, many stores here had it.    So, with less shelf space and less
sales, I wouldn't be surprised to see it be discontinued.

   I bought some a few days ago from the last supermarket carrying it. Lots
of Hood products in the other stores.

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Jean B. - 10 Feb 2010 17:38 GMT
> On Feb 5, 8:36 am, "Jean B." <jb...@rcn.com> wrote:
>> trad...@optonline.net wrote:
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>     I bought some a few days ago from the last supermarket carrying it. Lots
> of Hood products in the other stores.

I read the rest of the thread and cancelled my responses.
Unfortunately some news servers don't honor cancellations.

I am happy to say I bought some of the product in question today.
 I do have to go fairly far afield to do so though.

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JK Coney - 11 Feb 2010 04:19 GMT
>>     I bought some a few days ago from the last supermarket carrying it.
>> Lots of Hood products in the other stores.
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> I am happy to say I bought some of the product in question today. I do
> have to go fairly far afield to do so though.

 It is pretty good stuff, and the 1% is tasier than the 0%.

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Jean B. - 17 Feb 2010 00:26 GMT
>>>     I bought some a few days ago from the last supermarket carrying it.
>>> Lots of Hood products in the other stores.
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>
>   It is pretty good stuff, and the 1% is tasier than the 0%.

It's very useful, if one doesn't want to use copious amounts of cream!
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