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I went from 194 pounds to 170 in 45 days...

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mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 11 Apr 2010 04:15 GMT
I know the title sounds like spam. :)  This is certainly water loss
with maybe a bit of fat. Is this dramatic weightloss rarely heard of
in the weightloss community?
Billy - 11 Apr 2010 07:29 GMT
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> I know the title sounds like spam. :)  This is certainly water loss
> with maybe a bit of fat. Is this dramatic weightloss rarely heard of
> in the weightloss community?

Yes.
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mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 11 Apr 2010 20:32 GMT
> In article
> <48e67c3d-15e6-416f-85c3-ec77868c1...@i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
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> "Fascism should more properly be called corporatism because it is the
> merger of state and corporate power." - Benito Mussolini.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Arn3lF5XSUghttp://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Zinn
/HZinn_page.html

I'm looking at my stats.

Wednesday: 180 pounds.
Thursday:     179
Friday:          176
Saturday:      175
Today:          174

I remember on the several occasions in the last years when I had such
remarkable weight-loss that I often had pumpkin seeds and psyllium.
Billy - 11 Apr 2010 20:50 GMT
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> > In article
> > <48e67c3d-15e6-416f-85c3-ec77868c1...@i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
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> I remember on the several occasions in the last years when I had such
> remarkable weight-loss that I often had pumpkin seeds and psyllium.

You dumped water and sh.t. Losing sh.t isn't bad, but stay hydrated, for
your kidney's sake, if noting else.
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FOB - 11 Apr 2010 21:45 GMT
That isn't necessarily weight loss.  If you start low carbing you will lose
3 to 5 pounds of water, you can poop a pound or two if you have been
constipated, but that stops and the rest is weight loss if you continue to
lose weight.

| I'm looking at my stats.
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| I remember on the several occasions in the last years when I had such
| remarkable weight-loss that I often had pumpkin seeds and psyllium.
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 12 Apr 2010 15:14 GMT
On Apr 11, 3:32 pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com"
<mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:

> > In article
> > <48e67c3d-15e6-416f-85c3-ec77868c1...@i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
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> Saturday:      175
> Today:          174

Today: 172. My poop has been minimal in the last 5 days, so it has to
be water.
Billy - 12 Apr 2010 21:19 GMT
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> > In article
> > <48e67c3d-15e6-416f-85c3-ec77868c1...@i25g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>,
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> I remember on the several occasions in the last years when I had such
> remarkable weight-loss that I often had pumpkin seeds and psyllium.

When Gary Taubes looked at starvation diets
"Good Calories, Bad Calories: Fats, Carbs, and the Controversial Science
of Diet and Health"
~ Gary Taubes
http://www.amazon.com/Good-Calories-Bad-Controversial-Science/dp/14000334
62/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1271102831&sr=1-1
(available at good libraries everywhere)
he found that instead of just losing weight, the subjects metabolism
shut down, in an effort to maintain weight, as a result, they weren't
able to function normally. I should mention that these diets included
carbs. The experience was torturous for the participants , and as soon
as they could, they gorged themselves on carbs and regained more weight
than they had lost. This reaction wasn't noticed at the same caloric
intake among low or no carb dieters.
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newtopia - 14 May 2010 15:25 GMT
'Billy[_4_ Wrote:
> ;426568']In article
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> than they had lost. This reaction wasn't noticed at the same caloric
> intake among low or no carb dieters.

That sounds like a lot of water weight to lose.  I have tried man
things in my 40 years to help me lose a few pounds. It gets frustratin
after a while when you aren’t seeing any results. I believe eatin
right, drinking water only and doing about 45 minutes of cardio a da
helps out a lot.  I joined a program called newtopia that i’m seein
great results from also.

I wish everyone the bes

--
newtopia
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 12 Apr 2010 03:24 GMT
On Apr 10, 11:15 pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com"
<mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I know the title sounds like spam. :)  This is certainly water loss
> with maybe a bit of fat. Is this dramatic weightloss rarely heard of
> in the weightloss community?

I wish I had my amount of fat measured when I was at 197 pounds and at
168 pounds.
Billy - 12 Apr 2010 04:15 GMT
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> On Apr 10, 11:15 pm, "mikesmith9...@hotmail.com"
> <mikesmith9...@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> I wish I had my amount of fat measured when I was at 197 pounds and at
> 168 pounds.

Can you pinch an inch?
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Doug Freyburger - 12 Apr 2010 19:30 GMT
> I know the title sounds like spam. :)  This is certainly water loss
> with maybe a bit of fat. Is this dramatic weightloss rarely heard of
> in the weightloss community?

On the one hand water loss is fast but limited - Glygogen is stored by
dissolving it in water.  It is far more common to lose under 10 pounds
than over 10 pounds of water-plus-glygogen.

On the other hand doing the calorie arithmetic anything over 2 pounds
per week is probably something other than fat.  Two pounds per week is
1000 calories net lost per day and human metabolism in starvation mode
is lower than that.  Generally folks who lose over 2 pounds per week
still have 100+ pounds to lose and their bodies are dropping stored fat
faster than they are burning it for fuel.

Neither of the common situations apply to you so it must be something
else.  Unless you are now running a daily marathon it's not fat that you
are losing.

I'll offer a guess - I bet when you quit low carbing the last time you
regained that quickly as well.  I suspect some particular ingredient or
food that causes bloating or inflamation.  As the residual effects of
that ingredient drop off so does the bloating of inflamation.  Since
bloating is not limited by stored glycogen carbs the body can have a lot
more of it.

It's just a guess on my part but it is one way to explain the events.

You can not have lost 25 pounds of fat in 45 days without running a
marathon every few days or that level of exercise some other way.  That
is the level of exercise done by contestants on The Bifggest Loser who
spend all day on a treadmill when they are not doing some other type of
exercise.  You can not have lost 25 pounds of glycogen-plus-water, or
muscle mass or bone mass by any healthy means.

Thus you're either losing it by some extremely unhealthy method or you
started with something extremely unhealthy and it is now resolving
itself.

If my guess is right there is some food ingedient that you stopped
eating.  I tend to supect grain but that's because I am wheat intolerant
and biased.  If my guess is right when you start eating that ingredient
again you regain at a pound a day.  The stuff would be really bad for
you, much worse than for most people, and trigger an addictive behavior
pattern in you.

When you cheat is it with one specific food and do you end up falling
completely off the wagon for a very large regain?  If my guess is right
that's what would happen to you.
mikesmith9999@hotmail.com - 13 Apr 2010 00:32 GMT
> mikesmith9...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
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> completely off the wagon for a very large regain?  If my guess is right
> that's what would happen to you.

Thanks for these details. I would like to post an Excel file which
will tell what I ate when I regained weight and when I lost weight.
Where can I post such file?
FOB - 13 Apr 2010 01:03 GMT
Try Picasa on the web.

| Thanks for these details. I would like to post an Excel file which
| will tell what I ate when I regained weight and when I lost weight.
| Where can I post such file?
Doug Freyburger - 13 Apr 2010 21:04 GMT
>> If my guess is right there is some food ingedient that you stopped
>> eating.  I tend to supect grain but that's because I am wheat intolerant
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> will tell what I ate when I regained weight and when I lost weight.
> Where can I post such file?

I think you can have Excel export as a text file.  The data you describe
is text anyways.  A list of weight in pounds plus a food jounal tied to
those pound readings.
 
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