#11. 'Don't be fooled by low-carb claims.' Although many fast-food
outlets have added low-carb offerings to their menus, it doesn't mean
the selections are any healthier for you. For instance, the Carl's Jr.
Breakfast Bowl has only 5 grams of carbs, but it packs a whopping 900
calories and 73 grams of fat, nearly half of them saturated....
(Submitted by skored)
1. Go for the salad, minus the fried toppings. Although most fast-food
restaurants offer decent-sized salads these days, if you top them with
fried chicken, fried noodles, and the entire contents of the dressing
packet, you will wind up with as much artery-clogging saturated fat
and calories as if you'd had the double-cheese and fries. Instead,
choose broiled or roasted chicken as your protein source, skip the
croutons, and ask for the low-fat dressing -- then only use half.
2. Skip the cheese. Craving a hamburger? That's okay -- just get a
plain hamburger without the cheese. For instance, at McDonald's, that
saves you 50 calories, 40 of them from fat, and 2 grams of saturated
fat.
THERE WAS ALOT MORE INFO, IT CERTAINLY MADE ME THINK TWICE ABOUT FAST
FOOD
Billy - 15 Jul 2010 19:35 GMT
In article
<29704c40-507b-4108-a123-68bfd65ae1aa@5g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> #11. 'Don't be fooled by low-carb claims.' Although many fast-food
> outlets have added low-carb offerings to their menus, it doesn't mean
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> choose broiled or roasted chicken as your protein source, skip the
> croutons, and ask for the low-fat dressing -- then only use half.
Probably the most dangerous combinations for dieter are combinations of
fat, salt, and sugar (especially fructose which is sweeter than glucose,
but doesn't satiate like glucose).
> 2. Skip the cheese. Craving a hamburger? That's okay -- just get a
> plain hamburger without the cheese. For instance, at McDonald's, that
> saves you 50 calories, 40 of them from fat, and 2 grams of saturated
> fat.
If you get cheese, make sure it is real cheese (like cheddar) and not
that manufactured "cheese food" crap, like American cheese.
> THERE WAS ALOT MORE INFO, IT CERTAINLY MADE ME THINK TWICE ABOUT FAST
> FOOD
If you check with the USDA National Nutrient Database
<http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/foodcomp/search/>
you'll see that the fat in beef is almost 50% saturated. Put another
way, it is nearly 51% unsaturated.
This is a low carb news group. If we aren't going to get our calories
from carbs (4kCal/g), it is going to have to come from fats (9kCal/g).
Fortunately, cutting back on fats is easier than cutting back on carbs.
And certainly, if you want your omega 3 fatty acids, vitamins, and
fiber, eat a healthy portion of green leafy thingies along with your fat
and protein.

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Doug Freyburger - 15 Jul 2010 20:56 GMT
> #11. 'Don't be fooled by low-carb claims.' Although many fast-food
> outlets have added low-carb offerings to their menus, it doesn't mean
> the selections are any healthier for you. For instance, the Carl's Jr.
> Breakfast Bowl has only 5 grams of carbs, but it packs a whopping 900
> calories and 73 grams of fat, nearly half of them saturated....
> (Submitted by skored)
Calories matter. While low carbing fat does not matter except as
calories. So when I read this I saw the 900 calories and thought of
that as half my total food for the day. When I read the 73 grams of fat
what I got was the writer hasn't bothered studying low carb. If this is
generic advice that's not so bad. If it's low carb advice it should
have stopped at "... 900 calories".
> 1. Go for the salad, minus the fried toppings. Although most fast-food
> restaurants offer decent-sized salads these days, if you top them with
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> choose broiled or roasted chicken as your protein source, skip the
> croutons, and ask for the low-fat dressing -- then only use half.
More nonsense about calling saturated fat bad. Whatever source this is
it's not a useful low carb source. Asking for low-fat dressing is wrong
- It gets that way by replacing the fat with sugar. Either have the
full fat dressing or go with oil and vinegar or skip the dressing.
> 2. Skip the cheese. Craving a hamburger? That's okay -- just get a
> plain hamburger without the cheese. For instance, at McDonald's, that
> saves you 50 calories, 40 of them from fat, and 2 grams of saturated
> fat.
I have a very different reason for not wanting cheese on my burger in
some cases - I trash the bun so unless I am eating it with a knife and
fork the cheese makes it significantly more messy. ;^) I like Wendys
burgers because I can toss the bun, flip the burger over and eat it
using the wrapper to keep my hands from getting dirty.
FOB - 15 Jul 2010 22:38 GMT
You idiot, low carb diets are high fat diets. Fat does not clog arteries.
What you should skip is the buns and fries. Best LC fast food buy today is
KFC's broiled Double Down, a bit of cheese, a thin slice of bacon between
two chicken breasts. Tasty and very LC.
| #11. 'Don't be fooled by low-carb claims.' Although many fast-food
| outlets have added low-carb offerings to their menus, it doesn't mean
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| THERE WAS ALOT MORE INFO, IT CERTAINLY MADE ME THINK TWICE ABOUT FAST
| FOOD
Doug Freyburger - 16 Jul 2010 16:29 GMT
> You idiot, low carb diets are high fat diets. Fat does not clog arteries.
Newbie does not equal idiot. Ignorance is curable with education - May
as well start out educating.
> What you should skip is the buns and fries. Best LC fast food buy today is
> KFC's broiled Double Down, a bit of cheese, a thin slice of bacon between
> two chicken breasts. Tasty and very LC.
They have it available in the brioled form? Nice. I usually ignore KFC
as an option because for so long all of their chicken option were
breaded. The broiled option has been available for a while so I should
check it out.
Subway has had "Any 6 inch sub as a salad, $1 extra charge" on their
menu as far back as I have paid attention. I consider them the oldest
entry in the list of low carb fast food places because of that.
Hardees still has the Thickburger with the lettuce wrap option that last
time I was far enough out of town to encounter a Hardees. I take it the
same item appears under the Carls Jr brand name as well. The original
is In-n-Out "animal style" but I haven't been to their region in years.
Billy - 16 Jul 2010 17:44 GMT
> > You idiot, low carb diets are high fat diets. Fat does not clog arteries.
The lady had been twice corrected when you ventured in with your harsh
invective. From where I sit, you were out of line.
> Newbie does not equal idiot. Ignorance is curable with education - May
> as well start out educating.
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> menu as far back as I have paid attention. I consider them the oldest
> entry in the list of low carb fast food places because of that.
Went to a "Subway" not long ago, and was amazed at the amount of bread
in the sandwich. Seems like most supermarkets deli counters would make a
sandwich with less bread.
> Hardees still has the Thickburger with the lettuce wrap option that last
> time I was far enough out of town to encounter a Hardees. I take it the
> same item appears under the Carls Jr brand name as well. The original
> is In-n-Out "animal style" but I haven't been to their region in years.
In Davis, California, the choices were 1) hamburger, 2) cheeseburger, 3)
"Double-Double Burger" (double cheeseburger), fries, and choice of drink
were the only items on the menu. All the hamburgers were 39 g of carbs.
However, you can get the bun replaced with lettuce, which drops the
carbs to 11 g.
<http://www.in-n-out.com/pdf/nutrition_2008.pdf>
<http://www.in-n-out.com/freshness.asp>
In-N-Out was the only fast food franchise mentioned in "Fast Food
Nation",
<http://www.amazon.com/Fast-Food-Nation-Dark-All-American/dp/0060838582/r
ef=sr_1_sc_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1279297226&sr=1-2-spell>
that doesn't use the fast food paradigm of teaching an employee one
task, and then firing them before they could collect benefits. They are
known for treating their employees with respect, and paying them well.
Their patty making facility is in Baldwin Park, CA, and at the outlet in
Davis, you could see them peeling and slicing their own French fries
(not a big endorsement in a low carb food group, but the point was that
it was fresh and unsullied).
Yeah, I'll probably be back there this week-end.

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Doug Freyburger - 16 Jul 2010 19:40 GMT
>> Subway has had "Any 6 inch sub as a salad, $1 extra charge" on their
>> menu as far back as I have paid attention. I consider them the oldest
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> in the sandwich. Seems like most supermarkets deli counters would make a
> sandwich with less bread.
Yet another thing I like about the "Any 6 inch sub as a salad" option.
Zero bread.
> In-n-Out ... you could see them peeling and slicing their own French fries
> (not a big endorsement in a low carb food group, but the point was that
> it was fresh and unsullied).
When I lived in Pasadena the local In-n-Out had the french fry press in
the front window. When someone ordered fries you could watch a crew
member put a potato in the press and pull the lever. The raw fries fell
straight into the oil. Fresh as they can get.
A few places near me now offer sweet potato fries. Higher than a lot of
root veggies but lower than regular potatoes and they taste very good.