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Dogstar - 30 Dec 2003 17:04 GMT

Went to a dinner at a chinese buffet last night with a bunch of other people
from a club I belong to. As I was digging into the shrimp, crab, garlic
chicken, bok choi, etc., one of the people commented that she noticed I had
lost some weight.

Another person sitting a few chairs away asked how I was doing it. I
mentioned I was following a low carb woe and her eyebrows went up.
"Atkins?" she asked, "you're not eating carbs at all then?" I said Atkins
was *low carb* not *no carb* and that I was eating about 40 gms/day and it
seemed to be working for me.

"That's so unhealthy! Carbs are necessary to the human body and you will get
sick. I'd never do that!" I told her mildly that different woe work for
different people and YMMV.

She said she was losing weight on a "sensible" plan. When I asked her what
plan she was following, she said she was on protein shakes *only*, under a
doctor's guidance. She added that, although she was eating regular food that
night as a holiday treat, she followed this religiously and, when she
reached goal, she would follow a low-fat diet that her doctor recommended
for the rest of her life.

This is sensible?????? I guess she thought 'cause it was a doctor's program
it had the "healthy" seal of approval.

I restrained myself, but she was so danged hypocritical about her diet and
self-righteous about mine it was hard not to make disparaging remarks.
Especially, since her plates -- yes! plates -- were full of high-fat foods,
including a huge plate of desserts. Gotta wonder how long she'll keep it
off.

ARRGH!

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restarted LC 11/10/03
241/225.5/160 5'10"

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Ignoramus17041 - 30 Dec 2003 17:18 GMT

To me, a "sensible" diet is a diet that is simple and that you can
continue forever, that is not known to cause any long term health
problems and that supplies all body nutrients without the need to pop
vitamin pills and fiber supplements. It is also a diet which does not
cause food cravings. It should also not be too expensive.

A diet of protein shakes does not strike me as a sensible diet.

A low carb diet may or may not be sensible, it all depends on what
foods you eat.

Personally, I avoid arguments about diet in real life, I also say YMMV
and I know what works for me and try to close the discussion. Some
peopl ehave major hangups about food. Maybe I do too. But at least I
try to keep them to the appropriate Net forums.

Regarding that specific woman, I have a theory that if she cannot keep
herself from binging in public, she is almost a lost cause and very
unlikely to keep her weight off. Might as well save money and
discontinue her diet now.

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> Went to a dinner at a chinese buffet last night with a bunch of other people
> from a club I belong to. As I was digging into the shrimp, crab, garlic
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> restarted LC 11/10/03
> 241/225.5/160 5'10"

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Amanita, Private Dancer - 30 Dec 2003 19:17 GMT

Ignoramus17041 <ignoramus17041@NOSPAM.17041.invalid> slid from beneath the
satin sheets of the bed of iniquity and whispered:

> A low carb diet may or may not be sensible, it all depends on what
> foods you eat.

if you are eating only meat/eggs/cheese, like some people I know, I
don'tthink it is. But if you follow it the way it was meant to be followed,
I think it is the healthiest thing you can do for your body

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Amanita, Private Dancer - 30 Dec 2003 19:14 GMT

"Dogstar" <my_dogstar*nocarbs@hotmail.com> slid from beneath the satin
sheets of the bed of iniquity and whispered:

> This is sensible?????? I guess she thought 'cause it was a doctor's
> program it had the "healthy" seal of approval.

on Atkins, I am eating healthier than I have ever eaten. A good balance of
meats, veggies and fruit

My blood sugar levels and cholesterol are both a lot lower.

Drinking your food isn't a good thing at all. Too hard on the heart and too
easy to fall off the wagon

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Taffy Stoker - 31 Dec 2003 15:12 GMT

>Drinking your food isn't a good thing at all. Too hard on the heart and too
>easy to fall off the wagon

I have low carb shakes I make up in my blender when I am hungry and it
isn't a good idea to have a full meal such as 2 a.m. when I had eaten
my dinner already a few hours before.

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Dogstar - 31 Dec 2003 16:09 GMT

I think Amanita was talking about *diets* in which you have nothing but
shakes, like the one I mentioned in my original post.

> >Drinking your food isn't a good thing at all. Too hard on the heart and too
> >easy to fall off the wagon
>
> I have low carb shakes I make up in my blender when I am hungry and it
> isn't a good idea to have a full meal such as 2 a.m. when I had eaten
> my dinner already a few hours before.

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Pamela B. - 08 Jan 2004 00:26 GMT

> I think Amanita was talking about *diets* in which you have nothing but
> shakes, like the one I mentioned in my original post.
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> > isn't a good idea to have a full meal such as 2 a.m. when I had eaten
> > my dinner already a few hours before.

What ingredients are in a "low carb" shake?

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Amanita, Private Dancer - 30 Dec 2003 19:15 GMT

"Dogstar" <my_dogstar*nocarbs@hotmail.com> slid from beneath the satin
sheets of the bed of iniquity and whispered:

> Gotta wonder how long she'll keep it
> off.

bet it won't be long

It's easy to fall off the diet wagon this way and put back on twice as much
as you lost to begin with.

I am a living testimony to this. I did the cabbage soup diet and I bounced
UP to 170

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