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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004IHOP unfriendly to low carbers
I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. My wife and I are both on low carb diets and ate there this morning. We both ordered omletts which run for about 7 bucks and come with pancakes, hashbrowns, and bread. We asked if we could substitute a couple slices of bacon for the pancakes, hashbrowns, and bread. The waiter said NO. We don't allow people to substitute non meat items. I tried to explain my case but he would have no part of it. I went and tried to talk to the manger but was informed she was unavailable. To make a long story short, I ended up paying 15 bucks for two omletts with nothing else. I didn't leave a tip to that snotty prick waiter and will never eat at the IHOP again. It amazes me since I have been to all type of similar restaraunts such as Cracker Barrell, Denny's, etc. and have never had a problem substituting items. I am done with my rant but just a warning about IHOP. Your experience may vary. FF > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > substitute non meat items. I tried to explain my case but he would have no > part of it. It costs more money for meat than it does for cheap flour and sugar pancakes. That is the truth. That is why they do not substitute anything at IHOP, because they work in mass volume at most of the restraints, and can't have anyone getting extra meat and fresh things at the same price as their flour based goop-cakes (oops, I mean pancakes lol). IHOP is a joke, last summer I had the misfortunate experience of dining there. I was eating high carb then, and still thought it was overall terrible. The eggs came powdered, and were a sickly yellow color, and the service was terrible. IHOP is the embodiment of the north American lifestyle of low activity, high flour, sugar, and caffeine, and I wouldn't recommend anyone, no matter how they eat bother to go there. The meat costs more than the non meat sides. We have had a IHop here for a couple of years but I've never eaten there can't say after reading your post I'd want to. > The meat costs more than the non meat sides. We have had a IHop here > for a couple of years but I've never eaten there can't say after > reading your post I'd want to. http://www.ihop.com/menu0.html#omlette Next time you go there tell them that you are Hyperinsulinemic and that as such you have a physical problem and if they DONT sub the bacon or sausage like it says you can on their online menu that you will charge them with physical discrimination! The airlines have to serve vegetarian and kosher meals why dont places HAVE to serve LOW CARB???? LOW CARB is a DIETARY concern!!!! If your DOCTOR prescribed it then its a MEDICAL DIET and as such restaurants must accomodate you, just like they accomodate the handicapped! Just like Jell-O should make two versions of sugarfree Jell-O ! One with Aspartame and one with Splenda. They are discriminating against ppl with sensitivities to aspartame! And NO Im not a Liberal! preesi Where does it say you can substitute bacon or sausage? I saw where they said you could substitute (for more money) for different pancakes and where they also said how good the omelets are with "... Bacon or Sausage Ham Hash Browns ". They're willing to _sell_ you high or low carb sides. While I'm in favor of restaurants being low carb friendly, I really can't fault IHOP in this case. It's a PANCAKE restaurant and I don't think it's very likely that they will be making substitutions that discourage pancakes. That's like going to a vegetarian restaurant and insisting that they substitute a hamburger for the tofu on the menu <G>. If it was an omelet house, I could see expecting a reasonable substitution. My local diner allows a substitution of cottage cheese instead of home fries with their omelets (their menu says they charge for that sub, but they rarely do). I've eaten at IHOP and it never occurred to me to insist on them substituting something for the pancakes. I usually just try to go with a carb eating friend and we rearrange who gets what, or I'll sometimes get the pancakes to go and give them to the dogs <G>. Truthfully though, since we had people on here at one point that had worked at IHOP and told us about adding the batter to the omelet mixture, I rarely go there. Lee > > The meat costs more than the non meat sides. We have had a IHop here > > for a couple of years but I've never eaten there can't say after [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > like it says you can on their online menu that you will charge them with > physical discrimination! So lie and threaten to sue over bacon? Airlines and restaurants do not HAVE to accomodate any dietary concern. The smart ones recognize the value of doing so to acquire and keep customers, but many still cvharge for substituted or additional items. You choose to eat there. There are other choices. Call ahead if it is a concern. Eating low carb isn't exactly like trying to hit a urinal from three feet away because the stall is too small for a wheelchair (now, there's a visual for you). > > The meat costs more than the non meat sides. We have had a IHop here > > for a couple of years but I've never eaten there can't say after [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > preesi > So lie and threaten to sue over bacon? Airlines and restaurants do not HAVE > to accomodate any dietary concern. The smart ones recognize the value of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > trying to hit a urinal from three feet away because the stall is too small > for a wheelchair (now, there's a visual for you). Not to mention, how smart is it for someone eating low-carb to go to a restaurant with "pancakes" in its name? Priscilla lol > > So lie and threaten to sue over bacon? Airlines and restaurants do not HAVE > > to accomodate any dietary concern. The smart ones recognize the value of [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Priscilla "Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote ... > > My wife and I are both on low carb diets and ate there this morning. We > > both ordered omletts which run for about 7 bucks and come with pancakes, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > It costs more money for meat than it does for cheap flour and sugar > pancakes. Any sane place would allow you to substitute, but warn you that there is an extra charge for extra meat (that's what I do when I get a doner kebab with no bread and extra chicken - they're quite happy to do it, though the instruction doesn't seem to get passed from the till to the guy preparing the kebab nine times out of ten!). Rachel (New Zealand) > "Steven C (Doktersteve)" wrote ... > > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > Rachel > (New Zealand) Rachel did you know that Kebabs on Queen do a low carb meal? It's basically a kebab that comes in a box. $8.50 for a very good sized meal. Thought you may like to know (not sure if you are in AKL area or not). Cheers Matt. > > extra charge for extra meat (that's what I do when I get a doner kebab > with [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > a kebab that comes in a box. $8.50 for a very good sized meal. > Thought you may like to know (not sure if you are in AKL area or not). heh thanks - I did a double-take on that one because I'm not in Auckland, but the local kebab store where I live is on Queen Street too! That's basically what I get though, but I ask for extra meat at some places because otherwise it's not very filling. The local one is more generous so I don't usually need extra (he also gives us hot peppers too, something we've now aquired quite a taste for!). cheers Rachel (New Zealand) Duh, maybe International House of Pancakes is not a right place for a low carber... Have you tried Wendy's or some steakhouse etc? i > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > FF > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > FF Not to mention that some of them cut the eggs with pancake batter to fluff the omelets and make them last longer. Dangerous place to eat. Go with eggs that are still recognizable and sides of meat. Their coffee sucks, too.  SignatureWayne Crannell Atkins+ 10/27/01 Maintenance 10/1/02 250/138 When I lived in California, I always ate at IHOP, their Colorado Omelet is awesome for Low-Carb, I would order a side of some kind of breakfast meat, but I would sub the carby stuff for an order tomatoes or cottage cheese. I never dreamed of asking to sub an expensive meat item for there stuff included. But that's just me, heck I order a burrito in eat the insides and pull buns off at burger joints, except I miss In and Out's protein burger. SignatureJeffrey W. Roach MCT, MCSE, MCSA, CTTS, CNA, Network+, A+ > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > FF > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > people to substitute non meat items. I tried to explain my case but > he would have no part of it. <snip> It may be even worse than you think. IHOP is also known for adding pancake batter to their eggs to make the omlettes look bigger. Try Denny's if you have one. I don't know if they're all alike but mine will sub fruit (usually melon and strawberries) for the hashbrowns and toast. I agree that their Colorado Omlette is just perfect for all low carbers. =========================================================== "Someday I know we'll live those dreams we left so far behind' You'll never know unless you try, to see what's yours and mine" > It may be even worse than you think. IHOP is also known for adding > pancake batter to their eggs to make the omlettes look bigger. > Try Denny's if you have one. I don't know if they're all alike but > mine will sub fruit (usually melon and strawberries) for the > hashbrowns and toast. No one should ever eat at Dennys! They are racist! > > It may be even worse than you think. IHOP is also known for adding > > pancake batter to their eggs to make the omlettes look bigger. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No one should ever eat at Dennys! They are racist! Oh jeez, here we go again. two words: prove it. Pat in TX >> No one should ever eat at Dennys! They are racist! > > Oh jeez, here we go again. two words: prove it. > > Pat in TX They were sued ONCE for racist actions... Then a few years later it happened again.. They didnt learn? http://www.bet.com/articles/0,1048,c1gb6635-7431-1,00.html#boardsAnchor >> No one should ever eat at Dennys! They are racist! "Preesi"> > > Oh jeez, here we go again. two words: prove it. > > > > Pat in TX > They were sued ONCE for racist actions... > Then a few years later it happened again.. > They didnt learn? "Preesi"> Here's the problem:you are impugning EVERYBODY who works for Denny's and that is flat wrong. If somebody is racist in New Jersey or Michigan or even Texas, that doesn't mean that someone who works for Denny's in Iowa, Ohio, or Rhode Island should get tarred with the same brush. Yet, that is what you are doing. Maybe you could see the ridiculousness in that? What if somebody where you work or even somebody with the same last name as you is a racist? Would it be fair that you would be called a racist simply because you work at the same place? Generalizations are mean, stupid, and dangerous. Pat in TX > Here's the problem:you are impugning EVERYBODY who works for Denny's > and that is flat wrong. If somebody is racist in New Jersey or [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > fair that you would be called a racist simply because you work at the > same place? Generalizations are mean, stupid, and dangerous. That would be different if it was a ONE time incident. But apparently it has happened company wide SEVERAL times! That is what makes it different then say an isolated incident at a 7-11... preesi What part of "stupid" did you not understand? Oh.. That's right. You're too stupid to understand that you're being stupid. SignatureJC Eat less, exercise more. -- > > > Here's the problem:you are impugning EVERYBODY who works for Denny's [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > preesi Credibility go bye bye > >> No one should ever eat at Dennys! They are racist! > > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > They didnt learn? > http://www.bet.com/articles/0,1048,c1gb6635-7431-1,00.html#boardsAnchor No they aren't. Should the actions of one employee condemn the entire chain? Sounds like someone is drawing conclusins based on presuppositions, or sterotyping. > > It may be even worse than you think. IHOP is also known for adding > > pancake batter to their eggs to make the omlettes look bigger. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > No one should ever eat at Dennys! They are racist! > No they aren't. Should the actions of one employee condemn the entire > chain? Sounds like someone is drawing conclusins based on > presuppositions, or sterotyping. It wasnt ONE lone employee, it was several in several different states over several different years! They were reprimanded and sued and they kept on. Several college orgs even Boycotted Dennys FOR their lax race relations. As I said if it was JUST ONE Dennys and a single employee that would be different. Byt its Different Dennys, Different States, over Different Years! And they had to PAY alot of money and STILL did it.... preesi > It wasnt ONE lone employee, it was several in several different states > over several different years! They were reprimanded and sued and they kept [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > preesi Let me try explaining it in another way: If it were a company-wide policy to be racist, then somebody, somewhere and sometime would have had to send out the orders for everyone who worked there to comply with the company-wide policy. If this had been done, that letter or memo or something would have most assuredly been leaked to the newspapers or TV stations by now. This hasn't happened, and that is why you are coming off as a conspiracy nut. Deservedly so, I might add. Pat in TX > Let me try explaining it in another way: If it were a company-wide > policy to be racist, then somebody, somewhere and sometime would have [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > why you are coming off as a conspiracy nut. Deservedly so, I might > add. Of Course it would have been leaked but how do you explain: "Denny's began describing itself as a "new company" after settling a series of discrimination lawsuits filed in the early 1990s. The company was accused at the time of making Blacks pay for meals before they ate. To settle the suits, the company dished out $54 million in 1994." It wasnt just one restaurant that made the blacks pay BEFORE they ate but several all over. Among other racial acts. Thats how they got their reputation as being racist! Im just reporting what is already out there NOT making a conspiracy up. $54 Million is awful steep for conspiracy or gossip.. preesi > It wasnt just one restaurant that made the blacks pay BEFORE they ate > but several all over. > Among other racial acts. > Thats how they got their reputation as being racist! > Im just reporting what is already out there NOT making a conspiracy > up. $54 Million is awful steep for conspiracy or gossip.. This is why there arent too many Dennys in my area anymore Philadelphians wouldnt put up with that and they were "starved" out of business. Ohhhh...college organizations--now there's some organizations known for levelheaded and objective thinking. To be young again and know everything.............(drifting off to lala land) > > No they aren't. Should the actions of one employee condemn the entire > > chain? Sounds like someone is drawing conclusins based on [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > preesi > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > FF I have had no problem with IHOP whatsoever. They sub anything I want. WaffleHouse is the same. Sub toast, grits for more meat or eggs. Also the IHOP in my area is even talking using lo carb pancake mixes. Myway getting a bad meal in a restaurant when your hungry and ready to eat your valuable meal. I just visited a local diner and told the uneducated waitress to not bring the rice with my braised beef and peppers......duh, it came back with just the beef in a gravy and nothing else. my substitute veggies were probably cooked all day- used them to wash off the gravy. How unnerving after 6 hrs on the road. The burger king salad on the way home was also a joke- the chicken was over processed and the salad was all iceberg and too much cheese. I was hungry and ordered a extra burger and ripped off the bun. A tasty cup of Starbucks coffee with cinnamon restored my normally good mood. Better restaurants and pubs were much better and in a enjoyable atmosphere. Ask for a "naked burger" I.e. the burger on a salad bed instead of bun ( saw this on a pub menu). most omelets are safe to fall back on. How about not mentioning that you are on low carb...just say you have dietary restrictions....no restaurant wants a law suit for feeding you the wrong food! Cinnamon...used that a lot this Christmas season, to inhale in my tea while the baked breads were passed around, nutmeg too for that eggnog sitting in the frig. > > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > > [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > Myway > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > > My wife and I are both on low carb diets and ate there this morning. We > both ordered omletts which run for about 7 bucks and come with pancakes, > hashbrowns, and bread. > FF You CAN order omelettes there which do not come with side orders. I did so two weeks ago in Sherman, Texas. Excellent omelette stuffed with cheese, bell peppers, and ham. You knew that you couldn't have the side orders, so why did you pick a selection full of things you couldn't eat? Did you forget to actually READ the menu? Pat in TX Not at my IHOP. I asked and they said the omelettes only come with the complete meal. They do not offer omelettes as a side item. So no I didn't forget to read the menu. > > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Pat in TX > Not at my IHOP. I asked and they said the omelettes only come with the > complete meal. They do not offer omelettes as a side item. > > So no I didn't forget to read the menu. Sorry, but you really sound stupid now. I had supposed you were like everybody else and went in and read the menu with all the pretty colored photos. The omelettes are NOT a side item. They are a regular meal offering. Their menu is online. Go here and read the damned thing and stop your kvetching: http://www.ihop.com/menu0.html Pat in TX >Not at my IHOP. I asked and they said the omelettes only come with the >complete meal. They do not offer omelettes as a side item. > >So no I didn't forget to read the menu. At that point, why didn't you get up and leave? Was your butt glued to the seat? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap031111.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. | At that point, why didn't you get up and leave? Was your butt glued to | the seat? That's a Mu_t point now ... <g> SignaturePeter website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo IHOP has pretty good breakfasts, and I am not surprised they won't swap out cheap pancakes for expensive bacon. They operate on tight margins and can't really afford to do such things. I am sort of amazed you would think they would do otherwise. > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > FF >IHOP has pretty good breakfasts, and I am not surprised they won't swap out >cheap pancakes for expensive bacon. They operate on tight margins and can't >really afford to do such things. I am sort of amazed you would think they >would do otherwise. Exactly. Ask the manager if you could pay an extra dollar for the bacon substitue. He might agree to that. PJ >> I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] >> >> FF >I didn't leave a tip to that snotty prick waiter and will never eat at the >IHOP again. It amazes me It amazes me that you took our your frustration on the restaurant that has made these rules about substitution on the waiter that was DOING HIS JOB! If you dont want to eat carbs, maybe you should go to a restaruant that has PANCAKES in the name. Ignorance of customers amazes me sometimes. How exactly is this the waiters fault? People that stiff the waiters suck, unless of course, the waiter is not good. Doing what his managers told him to do does not mean he sucks. Buy a dog, name it clue, and then you'll have one. ///\\\ Sure. Drive down my street while you're doped up, come get your pizza and then come rob my house. \\\/// my happy little list: http://db.etree.org/eastphreak ~*~*~*~ notice spam blocker on email addy ~*~*~*~*~ > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > restaraunts such as Cracker Barrell, Denny's, etc. and have never had a > problem substituting items. I understand your frustration, and if you don't like their policy (though it seems perfectly reasonable to me) you most certainly shouldn't give them your business. But I can't understand why you would stiff the waiter for refusing to break the rules imposed upon him by his employers. carla 237/221/165? >To make a long story short, I ended up paying 15 bucks for two omletts with >nothing else. > >I didn't leave a tip to that snotty prick waiter and will never eat at the >IHOP again. You blame restaurant policy on the waiter, stiff him b/c you are too unstable and lazy to leave and you think anyone WANTS you back? lol http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040102.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. > >To make a long story short, I ended up paying 15 bucks for two omletts with > >nothing else. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040102.html > Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. If you read my post, you will see I said he was snotty and I meant it. He also never once refilled my water, and after 10 minutes of waiting, I had to get another waiter to bring my check so hell yes I stiffed him. I will leave 20 - 25% when I get exceptional service but if you feel obligated to tip someone who has given terrible service. If the waiter would have said "Im sorry but our manager won't allow for substitutions" and then gave good service then I would have left a good tip. I sympathize with you, because I've had a few not so favorable experiences at IHOP too. My wife wanted toast with her breakfast instead of their biscuit (HALF of a biscuit is what they serve, actually) and the waitress said they don't ever make toast. Can you imagine a place that serves breakfast not having toast? lol Luckily, there's a Country Buffet right down the road that has a nice weekend breakfast buffet, and a Friendly's and many good diners around. So we have no reason to ever go back to IHOP. > I sympathize with you, because I've had a few not so favorable experiences at > IHOP too. My wife wanted toast with her breakfast instead of their biscuit [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > nice weekend breakfast buffet, and a Friendly's and many good diners around. So > we have no reason to ever go back to IHOP. what's wrong with them deciding not to serve toast? if you wanted toast you should go somewhere that serves it. the IHOP in town seems to have plenty of customers so my guess is the people they are serving are quite happy with what they are being served, because they seem to be busy all the time. maybe your problem is you expect them to cater to your wishes instead of patronizing those that already do so. >> You blame restaurant policy on the waiter, stiff him b/c you are too >> unstable and lazy to leave and you think anyone WANTS you back? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >If you read my post... I read your whine and the bottom line is that you chose to eat there and now you want to come here and bleat about your misfortune. Why didn't you get up and leave? http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040102.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. | I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. | [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] | I didn't leave a tip to that snotty prick waiter .... | FF I would say it is YOU who are the "snotty prick" -- among many other, less generous names. You're being absolutely ridiculous and unreasonable. You want them to substitute a more expensive item, then when you're told that they can't you stiff the poor server? You must be one miserable individual. Try going in a Walmart and buying a shirt. Then tell the cashier that you want that shirt, but you want the buttons that are on another one. It is exactly the same thing. Shop around for the shirt with the buttons you want. Who are you that you can go in an establishment and tell them how to run their business? It is you who refused to conform to the menu that was offered they did not hing wrong. No establishment is under any obligation to make changes to its bill of fare to accommodate those outside of their usual offering, especially if it is a more expensive item. Many restaurants will substitute items; you named a few, such as Cracker Barrel. I don't eat in Cracker Barrel because they refuse to divulge the nutritional content of the food, for instance if the chicken salad has sugar. This is far worse than the restaurant simply providing what they promise and offer on the menu. ... and you stiffed the server. Peter <marengo> > I would say it is YOU who are the "snotty prick" -- among many other, less > generous names. > You're being absolutely ridiculous and unreasonable. You want them to [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > > Peter The problem is that IHOP does offer omelettes without pancakes. It's there on the menu. I saw at least 4 offerings: country omelette, Colorado omelette, etc. IHOP has its menu online, too. http://www.ihop.com/menu0.html So, he goofed up by trying to order and substitute when they had several items he could have gotten instead--with no substitutions. Pat in TX In response to Pat's post: > The problem is that IHOP does offer omelettes without pancakes. It's > there on the menu. I saw at least 4 offerings: country omelette, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Pat in TX Pat. Check out what is at the top of the omelet section right under "Omelet Feast" : "Big three-egg omelets with three buttermilk pancakes. Substitute Harvest Grain 'N Nut? Pancakes or Country Griddle cakes for just a little more" That says you get three buttermilk pancakes with *any and all* of the omelets listed in that section. The subsequent listings are *not* individual omelets without sides. SignatureStephen S. 331/290/220 <- as of 31 Dec. 03 LC since 28 Sept. 03 http://dragonfen.com/diet -------------------------------- > In response to Pat's post: > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > omelets listed in that section. The subsequent listings are *not* > individual omelets without sides. And yet, that's what I had in December, about a week before Christmas at the IHOP in Sherman, TX. When he said was that they had NO omelettes as a side order. The omelettes are the main dish. I didn't get any side orders. I wasn't offered any. Period. Pat in TX It's asking a lot to sub expensive meat for cheap potatoes and pancakes. I've gotten IHOP to sub for me, but they subbed with some lettuce and tomato, or a small fruit salad, not meat. I would not expect meat unless, of course, I was willing to pay for it. Debbie > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > > We asked if we could substitute a couple slices of bacon for the pancakes, > hashbrowns, and bread. > We asked if we could substitute a couple slices of bacon for the pancakes, > hashbrowns, and bread. The waiter said NO. We don't allow people to > substitute non meat items. I tried to explain my case but he would have no > part of it. I've never had a problem at 3 or 4 local IHOPs over the past 6+ years, subbing lettuce and tomatoes or a scoop of cottage cheese for the pancakes that come with everything. I wouldn't expect them to swap bacon, bacon is sold as an expensive side. That said, IHOP is a franchise, menus and rules differ somewhat from one to the next. You might want to be aware that they typically add pancake batter to scrambled eggs and omelets to make them fluffier, unless you specifically tell them not to. Signaturejamie (jamiemck@newsguy.com) "There's a seeker born every minute." When I go to IHOP, they substiute a smaller portion of bacon or sausage for the pancakes. However, you can pay a small upcharge to replace the pancakes. You should not have to pay a full charge since you are effectively replacing the side with another at higher cost. Only pay the upgrade. > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > FF Geez, you think? A restaurant called "International House of PANCAKES" is a poor choice for people pursuing a low carb way of eating? Well, will wonders never cease. You know, I hear that the "Pork Palace House of BBQ" down the road is unfriendly to Muslims and Orthodox Jews. Go figure. T. | Geez, you think? | [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] | | T. Touch?! When an issue becomes muddled, an apt analogy is often the best way to drive home the point -- and you just did it. SignaturePeter website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > > My wife and I are both on low carb diets and ate there this morning. OK.. my question is, what part of "International House of Pancakes" made you think it was a good place for low-carbers to eat? ;) Just teasing! -- Jen in ND > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > > My wife and I are both on low carb diets and ate there this morning. We > both ordered omletts which run for about 7 bucks and come with pancakes, > hashbrowns, and bread. I get a cobb salad, or the southwestern chicken salad. They're pretty good, and reasonably low carb. I like IHOP. -georg Where was this IHOP? > I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > FF I think restaurants should offer subs, and that all help should be polite but I personally wouldn't be in a International House Of *Pancakes*, if I were low carbing. >I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > >FF My experience with IHop has been good. We always order the omlettes, they are about $7.00. The omlettes (Chicken Fajita or Colorado) come with pancakes, and we ask them to substitute for sliced tomatoes, which they happily do. Our IHop, if you order the omlette, doesn't come with hashbrowns or toast, only pancakes, which they will substitue. Some here say that they (IHop) add pancake batter to the omlettes to make them fluffier, but I've never had stalls or cravings from them. To each his (or her) own Kira in SC 225/199/140 LC since 8-6-03 > I think restaurants should offer subs, and that all help should be > polite but I personally wouldn't be in a International House Of > *Pancakes*, if I were low carbing. Well, I don't know. I used to go out for lunch with someone who was pregnant and what she usually wanted was pancakes. The fact that she had a toddler in tow further limited our options. If there'd been an IHOP around, we would have gone there. I'm low carbing for life. It's a woe, not a religion; I can go into the house of the carbs and yet remain undefiled. Martha > >I can't speak for all locations but the IHOP in my area is horrible. > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > > >FF SignatureBegin where you are - but don't end there. <sneeeep> > I'm low carbing for life. It's a woe, not a religion; I can go > into the house of the carbs and yet remain undefiled. :) April. Put out the cat. Signature"Things that try to look like things often do look more like things than things. Well known fact." Esmerelda Weatherwax (Pratchett 1988) (snip) > I'm low carbing for life. It's a woe, not a religion; I can go into > the > house of the carbs and yet remain undefiled. Amen. Somebody oughta needlepoint that and put it on the wall. JD >I'm low carbing for life. It's a woe, not a religion; I can go into the >house of the carbs and yet remain undefiled. Interesting observation. Four years ago, I was working at a place where the management put out a really fabulous spread of donuts and other treats every Friday. I knew that LC was going to work for me when I could walk into the breakroom on Friday morning without three to five of those donuts leaping off of the counter into my mouth. As I have mentioned to many of my friends, it has nothing to do with willpower, and everything to do with not being hungry all the damned time. Howard (100% donut-free for over four years) --- Howard Lee Harkness Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net > >I'm low carbing for life. It's a woe, not a religion; I can go into the > >house of the carbs and yet remain undefiled. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > willpower, and everything to do with not being hungry all the damned > time. It's good that that's true for you. For me, eating always had little to do with hunger, so I'd be surprised if any length of time on low-carb changes that fundamental psychological truth about who I am. Moreover, while I am currently highly motivated and don't require a great deal of will power to have success, I know that there are and will be times when an enormous amount of will is required. Some of the tricks I learned in Weight Watchers still apply even though I am on a different program now, such as asking myself "which is more important to me: enjoying that donut/pasta/whatever, or getting on the scale at the end of the week and seeing a loss?" That is will power. For me, losing weight and staying thin will always require some. carla > I am done with my rant but just a warning about IHOP. Your experience may > vary. Put me in the category of those whose experience varied. My children both love IHOP, so a few months ago we went there for dinner. I ordered the chicken parmesan, with no pasta. The waiter was surprised, but then when I didn't want the salad, either (I just don't like salad), he seemed very concerned that I wouldn't have enough to eat. He kept coming back, offering some other item for me. I finally agreed to some french fries, which the kids would eat (and I will admit I snuck a few myself). This seemed to satisfy him, and the chicken was really good, a nice sized piece. So, a few weeks later we go back, and I again order the chicken parmesan - but this time, I don't ask for it with no pasta, just figure I won't eat it, easier that way. When the plate comes, it's a big plate of pasta, with a piece of chicken about half the size of the first one. Same thing the next time. All I can figure is, that waiter got me more chicken than is usual for the meal. Tim 214/172/175 |
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