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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Nice finds at Costco and Sam's
I learned about these from my mom when she served them on New Year's Day. She bought them at Costco, but they are probably available at other stores as well. King & Prince Sole with Crabmeat Stuffing. Excellent taste, very filling, quick and easy to cook. Individually wrapped so you can cook just the number you want. Each 6 ounce piece has <2g net carbs, 170 calories, 22g protein. SeaPak Shrimp Scampi. Each shrimp is individually "battered" in the butter mixture, so it's easy to cook just the amount you want. 4 ounces (about 8 shrimp) have 4g net carbs, 370 calories, 12g protein. And I can't remember if I previously mentioned these hamburgers I found at Sam's Club. Pierre Chop House Beefsteak. These are really thick, pre-grilled hamburgers. Just heat in the microwave. I don't have the box anymore (inside the box the burgers are in a ziplock bag), so I can't quote figures, but I think they were pretty much just made from beef. They have a really nice flavor and are wonderfully convenient when you want a grilled hamburger but don't want to break out the grill. Would be great to take to work. Reb ************************************* Does your photo do you justice? http://ThePhotoFixer.home.comcast.net That's good stuff. I shop at Sam's and I investigated prepared foods that the sell with regards to whether there are any compounds that I never heard about or that I find objectionable. To my great surprise, most of Sam's prepared foods are actually made quite conservatively and from good stuff. Obviously a blanket statement, but it is based on a few ingredient lists that I perused. Sam's also has nuts at great prices, meat etc. They also sell egg beaters -- egg whites with carot based colorant to make them look like whole egg mix. Unlike a whole egg mix though, these egg beaters have no cholesterol and fat in them, so it is a great source of pure, best quality protein. (I know that cholesterol in eggs is not necessarily something to fear, but I prefer not to eat more than 10 whole eggs per week just in case -- and this stuff I eat worry free). I generally tend to think of Walmart and Sam's club as very honest businesses. i > I learned about these from my mom when she served them on New Year's Day. > She bought them at Costco, but they are probably available at other stores [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Does your photo do you justice? > http://ThePhotoFixer.home.comcast.net > That's good stuff. I shop at Sam's and I investigated prepared foods > that the sell with regards to whether there are any compounds that I > never heard about or that I find objectionable. To my great surprise, > most of Sam's prepared foods are actually made quite conservatively > and from good stuff. Obviously a blanket statement, but it is based on > a few ingredient lists that I perused. Well, the seafoods I mentioned do contain transfats and other objectionable stuff, but you're right, most of the stuff at Sam's seems to be pretty high quality. One notable exception would be some Italian sliced beef I bought there recently. (Unfortunately I don't remember the brand name, but they probably only sell one brand.) Once thawed, the tubs of "beef" turned out to be mostly "juice." Very disappointing product. > Sam's also has nuts at great prices, meat etc. Yeah, the warehouse stores are really a low-carber's best resource. The meats are not only much cheaper than anywhere else, they are often higher quality cuts; and the high volume turnover of the warehouse stores helps ensure you're not going to get meat that's been sitting around a long time. The prices and quality of the produce are exceptional, too. I love red bell peppers but I used to not get them too often because I felt guilty spending up to $2.99 per pepper. Sam's usually has a six-pack of huge red bell peppers for, what is it, like $3-something? Now I put peppers in everything. And how about that huge sack of salad for $1.77?? Cheap tomatoes, too. And how about the eggs and dairy? When I got a Sam's membership for the first time, I only did it because they had a new store near me and membership was half price. When it came time to renew at full price, I debated the issue for only a few moments because I realized the amount I save on milk alone saves me more than the cost of membership. > I generally tend to think of Walmart and Sam's club as very honest > businesses. Well.....I wouldn't go *that* far, but it's hard to beat their prices and selection, and they take stuff back without a hassle, too. Reb ************************************* Does your photo do you justice? http://ThePhotoFixer.home.comcast.net :: Sam's also has nuts at great prices, meat etc. I often fall prey to Sam's nuts. OMG! Whenever I don't weight, I can track it right back to buy that big jug of roasted almonds from Sam's. Gawd....just thinking about it is giving me cravings. They also sell egg :: beaters -- egg whites with carot based colorant to make them look :: like whole egg mix. Unlike a whole egg mix though, these egg beaters :: have no cholesterol and fat in them, so it is a great source of :: pure, best quality protein. (I know that cholesterol in eggs is not :: necessarily something to fear, but I prefer not to eat more than 10 :: whole eggs per week just in case -- and this stuff I eat worry free). Removing that fat and cholesterol from eggs requires processing. Egg beaters are junk food, imo. Do you really think man can improve upon what nature put here for us to eat? :: I generally tend to think of Walmart and Sam's club as very honest :: businesses. I must admit, I've saved a lot of money shopping at Sam's. I saved a fortune buy a new wardrobe (mostly) there. The membership is well worth the price. :: i :: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] ::: Does your photo do you justice? ::: http://ThePhotoFixer.home.comcast.net > Removing that fat and cholesterol from eggs requires processing. Egg > beaters are junk food, imo. > > Do you really think man can improve upon what nature put here for us to eat? Do you really think that nature put baby chick embryos here for humans to eat?? Weird. Yes, it is the natural order for some animals to eat other animals at all stages of their lives. In news:ldrake-859F55.22095707012004@news05.east.earthlink.net, Lisa Drake <ldrake@pobox.com> stated | Do you really think that nature put baby chick embryos here for humans | to eat?? | Weird. 10,000 years ago mankind lived in nature, hunted and ate mostly animals and eggs ... supplemented with nuts and berries ... that is where our metabolic roots are based. That is probably why the low-carb approach works so well on the human body. As an aside, the low-carb approach is gaining such wide appeal that in the UK retail egg sales increased 4% in 2003 .... hmmm .... maybe you CAN"T fool all of the people all of the time! ... > > Removing that fat and cholesterol from eggs requires processing. Egg > > beaters are junk food, imo. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to eat?? > Weird. :: In article <bthot9$7f9od$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, :: "Roger Zoul" <rogerzoul2@hotmail.com> wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] :: to eat?? :: Weird. Yeah, baby! Lisa, I have news for you. There are no baby chick embryos in the eggs that you buy at stores. i Proud owner of two egg laying hens who live without a rooster >> Removing that fat and cholesterol from eggs requires processing. Egg >> beaters are junk food, imo. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > to eat?? > Weird. >:: Sam's also has nuts at great prices, meat etc. > > I often fall prey to Sam's nuts. OMG! Whenever I don't weight, I can track > it right back to buy that big jug of roasted almonds from Sam's. > > Gawd....just thinking about it is giving me cravings. Just eat a little bit of them... Nuts have lots of calories! > They also sell egg >:: beaters -- egg whites with carot based colorant to make them look [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Removing that fat and cholesterol from eggs requires processing. Egg > beaters are junk food, imo. boiling your eggs is also processing. I guess you were being facetious. > Do you really think man can improve upon what nature put here for us to eat? of course. >:: I generally tend to think of Walmart and Sam's club as very honest >:: businesses. > > I must admit, I've saved a lot of money shopping at Sam's. I saved a > fortune buy a new wardrobe (mostly) there. The membership is well worth > the price. Yes. I am not bashing Costco, by any means, and I have owned costco stock for a while. I shop at Sam's due to proximity. i >:: i >:: [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] >::: Does your photo do you justice? >::: http://ThePhotoFixer.home.comcast.net :: In article <bthot9$7f9od$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, Roger Zoul :: wrote: [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] :: :: Just eat a little bit of them... Nuts have lots of calories! I understand that, intellectually. However, I have a thing for nuts. Hence, if I want to lose weight, I have to avoid them. Trigger food is the term that I think applies. And while nuts may not be junk food, being able to buy so many in a store is another reason while modern society is dangerous for our health. Primitive man could not do that. Of course, I'm not saying that one should not use discretion when eating them....but the ready availablity of lots and lots of a high-calorie foods will play into human frailities. It's just the way it is.... ::: They also sell egg ::::: beaters -- egg whites with carot based colorant to make them look [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] :: boiling your eggs is also processing. I guess you were being :: facetious. No, I'm serious. Removing the yolks and adding coloring is done in a factory. Who knows what they really do. Boiling eggs is simply cooking - -the last step before eating. However, you waste your time and enjoyment by processing out the yolk (it would be one thing if you didn't like them) all because people have wrongly blamed dietary cholesteral for the ills of modern, sedentary man. ::: Do you really think man can improve upon what nature put here for ::: us to eat? :: :: of course. You're wrong. Blind worship of science is not good for your longevity. ::::: I generally tend to think of Walmart and Sam's club as very honest ::::: businesses. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] :: Yes. I am not bashing Costco, by any means, and I have owned costco :: stock for a while. I shop at Sam's due to proximity. Oh, I'm not bashing Costco either. We don't have them in SC (afaik), but I've shopped them when in LA. :: i :: [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] :::::: Does your photo do you justice? :::::: http://ThePhotoFixer.home.comcast.net >:: In article <bthot9$7f9od$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, Roger Zoul >:: wrote: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > if I want to lose weight, I have to avoid them. > Trigger food is the term that I think applies. Sure, if it's a trigger food, don't eat them. Nuts are not a trigger food for me, but I do have to make an effort to stop eating them. > And while nuts may not be junk food, being able to buy so many in a store is > another reason while modern society is dangerous for our health. Primitive > man could not do that. Of course, I'm not saying that one should not use > discretion when eating them....but the ready availablity of lots and lots of > a high-calorie foods will play into human frailities. It's just the way it > is.... Agreed. >::: They also sell egg >::::: beaters -- egg whites with carot based colorant to make them look [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > like them) all because people have wrongly blamed dietary cholesteral for > the ills of modern, sedentary man. I think that itis a quantitative, not a qualitative, thing. Yes, impact of dietary cholesterol on heart disease is probably small, but I don't think that, say, eating 5 eggs per day is healthful. But an equivalent of 5 eggs in egg beaters, probably fine. We are dealing with unknowns here and have to make a best judgment. >::: Do you really think man can improve upon what nature put here for >::: us to eat? >:: >:: of course. > > You're wrong. Blind worship of science is not good for your longevity. Well, I am not blind. Some processing is bad, some processing is probably good. Pasteurizing milk helps get rid of dangerous pathogens. I may be the only person in this newsgroup who drank unpasteurized milk, half an hour after it was milked from a cow. And it's delicious. But for modern distribution, it needs to be pasteurized. Just one example. i 223/177/180 :: In article <btjmi8$8cai7$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, Roger Zoul :: wrote: [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] :: Sure, if it's a trigger food, don't eat them. Nuts are not a trigger :: food for me, but I do have to make an effort to stop eating them. Luckily, I've never gained weight from eating too many nuts, but I have certainly not loss weight. So for me, they are weight loss killer, so I try very hard to limit myself. ::: And while nuts may not be junk food, being able to buy so many in a ::: store is another reason while modern society is dangerous for our [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] :: equivalent of 5 eggs in egg beaters, probably fine. We are dealing :: with unknowns here and have to make a best judgment. Wow....I don't even eat 5 eggs per week :) Have you any recent links on how many eggs per day are bad for you? :::::: Do you really think man can improve upon what nature put here for :::::: us to eat? [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] :: it's delicious. But for modern distribution, it needs to be :: pasteurized. Just one example. Okay....I never said science is not useful, just blind worship of it is....Up to this point, I think science has mostly failed us where nutrition is concerned. I'm hopeful that things will improve from this point forward, however. Maybe Atkins will have sent a wake up call to those involved in certain types of health-related research to report findings truthfully, critically, and without applying a bias born of obtaining funding or getting papers published. > Okay....I never said science is not useful, just blind worship of it > is....Up to this point, I think science has mostly failed us where nutrition [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > critically, and without applying a bias born of obtaining funding or getting > papers published. It could be that more than science, as such. In my opinion, what failed us is the free market. Obviously, thanks to both science and free market, we have an abundance of food, and that's a good thing -- no more starvations, etc. But, on the other hand, food is made too attractive and addictive -- by the free market, with some help from science. As for the nutrition as a science, it succeeded in figuring out in what and how many nutrients that we need, etc. I agree that it mostly failed us when weight loss is concerned. Why? I guess, again, it is due to the corrupting influence of capitalists on nutritionists (read Food Politics by Marion Nestle), as well as due to difficulty in properly carrying out nutrition research due to financial and ethical constraints. There is also a great amount of denial amongst the dieting public -- witness some atkins dieters looking for fake candy and such, quests for easy diet pills, etc. They seek a magic solution instead of getting off their duff and working on their weight issue. Note to those short fused market purists who accuse me of asking for more government regulation. I am not asking for more government regulation, because government regulation is subverted by capitalists quite effectively. The real solution is that, first, people need to become more educated and critical about nutrition research, and second, they should break their food addictions and reject overly processed foods and foods which are known to cause addictions and suffering. i 223/177/180 :: In article <btk3kg$85fcb$1@ID-166706.news.uni-berlin.de>, Roger Zoul :: wrote: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] :: :: It could be that more than science, as such. True. :: In my opinion, what :: failed us is the free market. Obviously, thanks to both science and :: free market, we have an abundance of food, and that's a good thing -- :: no more starvations, etc. But, on the other hand, food is made too :: attractive and addictive -- by the free market, with some help from :: science. True. :: As for the nutrition as a science, it succeeded in figuring out in :: what and how many nutrients that we need, etc. I agree that it mostly :: failed us when weight loss is concerned. Why? I'm not sure I agree that they have figured out how many nutrients we need. I see no real evidence of that. You can try to eat all the things they say you need, but that is no guarantee of anything. It just seems like the prudent thing to do for those of us who bother to keep up with what they say. :: I guess, again, it is due to the corrupting influence of capitalists :: on nutritionists (read Food Politics by Marion Nestle), as well as :: due :: to difficulty in properly carrying out nutrition research due to :: financial and ethical constraints. I agree. :: There is also a great amount of denial amongst the dieting public -- :: witness some atkins dieters looking for fake candy and such, quests :: for easy diet pills, etc. They seek a magic solution instead of :: getting off their duff and working on their weight issue. fake candy? I see no difference between fake candy and real candy in terms of why people use them. However, you're not going to tell me that eating a piece of LC cheesecake is as bad as eating a piece of HC cheesecake. You're also not going to convince me that eating a sweet thing now and again is a bad thing. There is no magic bullet in any of this....even those who get off their duff and work on the weight issue (and solve it) consume enjoyable food. I've seen very fit people eating junk. :: Note to those short fused market purists who accuse me of asking for :: more government regulation. I am not asking for more government [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] :: i :: 223/177/180 |
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