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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Bad breath, is there a cure?
Hi, My husband has noticed that my breath is terrible and it has been since I have changed my diet. Is it the food I am eating? Is there anything I can do about it? Is mouthwash the only answer? Wendy > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wendy If you are heavily burning your own fat, you are excreting ketones through your urine, and the smell of the burning can also be recognized in your breath... This is a good sign, since you want to be in ketosis, but can be pretty gross as well. :: Hi, :: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] :: :: Wendy Drink lots more liquids and brush and wash more frequently. Make sure you have five or so clear pees per day. > Hi, > > My husband has noticed that my breath is terrible and it has been > since I have changed my diet. Is it the food I am eating? Is there > anything I can do about it? Is mouthwash the only answer? Hi, Wendy. It's called keto-breath, and it happens because the protein you take in can't be handled solely by the kidneys. Mouthwash won't help, since this is actually in your breath, not in your mouth. Try tracking your protein, and decreasing it. There are websites about that tell you how to calculate how much protein you need, but I never could quite get the hang of them. But if you take in around 20 grams of protein more than you need, you probably won't get keto-breath. It's only when you're way too high that you get it. Hope this helps, Chakolate  SignatureYou might as well fall flat on your face as lean over too far backward. --James Thurber I think I am the only one here that discovered this, but it works for me. I use Tom's of Maine toothpaste. I know, I know you are saying so what. Well, it is naturally flavored and doesn't have saccharin. It leaves a much better taste in your mouth and doesn't give that terrible aftertaste. I never have that breath when I brush with Toms. I just say give it a try. No one else here ever did that I know of. I would like to not be alone on this. Curt Signature211/?/185 . . 6'2" Started low carb May 18, 2003...this time Highest weight 250 > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wendy > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wendy It's normal when you're losing weight on LC. Sugar free mints and gum are an easy solution for me! :) jules Jules, The mints and gum may delude you into thinking you've solved the problem, but it may still be a problem for other people. Unfortunately, very few of them will say, "Hey, you are radiating a cloud of bad breath so awful it could knock flies out of the air two feet away from you." In fact, bad breath is one of those things that people are very hesitant to mention. Unfortunately too, people don't realize that they can't sense their own bad breath. The mints often just add a minty overtone to the underlying unpleasantness. If you've ever been around anyone who is trying to hide the smell of alcohol with breath mints, you'll know what I mean. I managed to lose 30 lbs last year without any bad breath at all after getting my protein intake down to a level closer to what my body needed. Losing the excess protein also helped me lose more efficiently. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > > Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > :) > jules > Jules, > > The mints and gum may delude you into thinking you've solved the problem, > but it may still be a problem for other people. > Unfortunately, very few of them will say, "Hey, you are radiating a cloud of > bad breath so awful it could knock flies out of the air two feet away from > you." In fact, bad breath is one of those things that people are very > hesitant to mention. Well, yeah - I'm not stupid enough to trust my own judgement when it comes to my breath. Even breathing into my hand won't tell me what my breath smells like. I supposed I take it for granted that I have an incredibly honest husband who allowed me to "test" various gums and mints on him. We've nailed it down to what works and what doesn't. And at the end of the day, the "experimentation" benefits him, as well! :) But since everyone's body is different, what works for me may not work for everyone. (And no, you all can't come round to breath in my husband's face!) :) :) jules Wendy, Dieter's breath is usually not caused by ketones from the breakdown of fat. That's a common misperception. It is more often ammonia byproducts from the breakdown of excess dietary protein. I had a lot of trouble with this over the years and found that raising my carbs didn't necessarily solve it. Eventually I cut my protein for other reasons and to my surprise the bad breath disappeared. I tested the hypothesis that it was protein by boosting it again, and the bad breath came right back. For me at around 150 lbs the ideal daily protein level was 100 grams or less and the bad breath started around 120 gms. If you are bigger, you might need another 10 - 20 grams. There are 6 grams of protein in an ounce of a protein-containing food like cheese or meat. So that means cutting protein to about 18 oz a day or 6 ounces per meal. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wendy > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Wendy I have found that drinking lots of water resolves this problem. -Cheers > > Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > > > Wendy One thing that worked for me was green tea. Angie Warning: this post may be too much info for some folks! If you are a very modest person, please skip! S P A C E Okay. I tried Atkins a couple of years ago. I, too, had the bad breath and a horrible metallic taste in my mouth. But, even worse (and one of the main reasons for me stopping) was that my vaginal secretions tasted horrible, according to my DH. Now, I'd love to lose the weight, but I'll be shooting myself in the food if said weight loss makes me less sexually desirable to my husband!!! I'm going on SBD tomorrow, and I am concerned about this. My husband is even more concerned :-O! Has anyone ever had this happen and overcome it? If so, how? Sheila How overweight are you? SignatureJC Eat less, exercise more. -- > Warning: this post may be too much info for some folks! If you are a very > modest person, please skip! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Sheila Sheila, Your problem is probably caused by excess ammonia generated by eating too much protein. Ammonia is a product of the breakdown of protein. It causes stenchy urine and nasty breath. It has nothing to do with carbs or ketosis. For me the level at which the problem occurs is when I eat over 120 grams of protein in one day. If you are significantly heavier than I am (I'm at about 140 lbs) then you might be able to add another 10 or 20 grams of protein. Try keeping your protein down to reasonable levels and see if this doesn't solve the problem. -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > Warning: this post may be too much info for some folks! If you are a very > modest person, please skip! [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > Sheila >Sheila, > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] >hba1c 5.2. >Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Thanks, Jenny. I'll keep that in mind. :-) Sheila In a previous article, whansami@aol.com (WhansaMi) said: >Warning: this post may be too much info for some folks! If you are a very >modest person, please skip! Hey, Sheila! No advice, just a welcome! Vicki SignatureJust to think I used to worry about things like that. Used to worry 'bout rich and skinny 'til I wound up poor and fat. -Delbert McClinton >whansami@aol.com (WhansaMi) said: > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Vicki Hey, Vicki. :-) I know you've been low carbing for quite a while now. Any particular wisdom to pass on? I'm doing South Beach, which, I think, is a better option for me. The really frustrating thing for me is when I don't think carefully through things, and I screw up. For instance, I went to the grocery store the other night when I was really hungry. I wanted to stay on plan, so I bought some olives from the bulk olive bar, and a couple of tablespoons of freshly ground peanut butter (from the grinder) to hold me over until I could get home. As I'm standing at the check-out, I'm thinking that I should probably get something to drink too. I was at Whole Foods, so there was lots of fruit juice in the cooler, but I remembered not to get those.... and then (stupidly!!!) grabbed a V-8. Oh! vegetables! "I can have tomatoes and celery and such", I think to myself, as the cashier is tapping her foot. I grab the can, pay, get out to the car, eat a couple of olives, open the can and guzzle half. Look at the side... 15 carbs, a fair amount sugar. :-( Similar thing happened tonight. Took the kids to Red Lobster (DH is out of town) and ordered the lobster, crab, shrimp meal. Hold the potato, hold the biscuits. SB says okay on most veggies, so I get those instead. I'm sitting there eating my meal when I realized I'm putting CARROTS in my mouth, one veggie I'm not allowed. I think I'm having a hard time changing my frame of reference from the old "good" food (veggies of any sort, vegetable juice) to a new frame of reference. I must be exceedingly careful. On the good news front, in 3 days, I've lost 2 lbs. Sheila As Jenny said, limiting protein to your actual need will limit ammonia; also a high water intake will flush ketones out. Those will limit *bad* tastes. But... if you're blood sugar was *way* out of wack, you may never taste so good again. Heh. It appears from empirical experiments in my bedroom that long before there's any sugar in my urine, other bodily fluids become *quite* sweet. And... well, hubby is dealing with the fact that I am not going to taste like dessert anymore - as that *good* taste is *not* coming back as I am not going to provide the sugar for it to do so. ;) The plus side of getting rid of that sweetness, is you also stop getting the yeast infections that can take all the fun out of being close. Not a bad trade! -- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes, hba1c 5.2. Cut the carbs to respond to my email address! Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes, strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/ Looking for help controlling your blood sugar? Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm > As Jenny said, limiting protein to your actual need will limit > ammonia; also a high water intake will flush ketones out. Those will [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > coming back as I am not going to provide the sugar for it to do so. > ;) snipT >according to my DH. Now, I'd love to lose the weight, but I'll be shooting >myself in the food if said weight loss makes me less sexually desirable to my >husband!!! heh, be interesting to see this topic kept above the waistline ? interesting how a "support group" focused on losing body mass attracts all type of "eating disorder" queries :-^ MërëMåLË *.·´¨¨)) ¸.·´ .·´¨¨))* *((¸¸.·´ ..·´ ((¸¸.·´* How Much? http://www.foodstandards.gov.au/npc/anzfa_npc/ How Does That Work? http://tgos.org/newbie/rules.html http://livinginternet.com/u/ua.htm http://www.urbandictionary.com http://groups.google.com/advanced_group_search http://www.newsreaders.com/link/link.cgi?group=comp.test Need A Friend? http://www-ai.ijs.si/eliza-cgi-bin/eliza_script |
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