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Must I give up fruit??

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Pamela B. - 10 Jan 2004 18:34 GMT
I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
fruit!  I have been snacking on slices of apple with old cheddar
cheese.  I also love tangerines and seedless grapes. A friend recently
told me that I should stop eating all fruit. Are they really that
harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
stawberries and honeydew melons.
placidbull - 10 Jan 2004 18:37 GMT
if you use www.fitday.com to input your daily consumption you will see that
fruits contain a lot of carbohydrates ... probably enough to kick you out of
ketosis ...

Placid
203/151/149 03/03

> I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
> cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
> stawberries and honeydew melons.
Myway - 10 Jan 2004 19:38 GMT
> I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
> cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
> stawberries and honeydew melons.

Depends on what diet you are using. Usually any low carb diet allows
fruits (low Carb type) to be slowly entered back into your diet starting
off with the ones lower in carbs and low in glycemic index.
follow whatever diet you are on and go by that. Then after awhile you
can pretty much know what you can or cannot have. I have been on Atkins
for awhile now and just now starting out of the induction phase (4
months) and will implement different fruits just to have more of a
complete food group.

Will probably get many different opinions here. Go by YOUR particular
carb tolerance.

Myway
PJx - 10 Jan 2004 20:45 GMT
>I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
>cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
>stawberries and honeydew melons.

How do you feel about avocados?  
Read what Atkins says about them and then click on some of the links
on this atkins page for more info on other berries and fruits.
http://atkins.com/Archive/2003/6/10-176675.html
BigK - 11 Jan 2004 02:31 GMT
> I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
> cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
> stawberries and honeydew melons.

Only at the beginning.  After you start adding back carbs you can have some
fruit.  Just go easy.
CarbAddict - 11 Jan 2004 03:57 GMT
>  From: Pamela B. (10 Jan 2004 10:34:38 -0800)
> MsgId: <372c4829.0401101034.903fb2@posting.google.com>
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> harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
> stawberries and honeydew melons.

I love honeydew melon, watermelon, apples, peaches, plums, oranges, and on
down the list. How many of them have I had since I started LC'ing in
November? 0. My personality is such that when I have a goal, I want to get
there. I don't want to do things that deter from my goal. I won't be giving
up fruits forever, but right now, they're a deterrent.

The answer to your question is to determine where you should be in total
daily carb consumption, then determine how many carbs are in the fruit you
want to eat, and make your decision accordingly.
Martha Gallagher - 11 Jan 2004 17:07 GMT
> I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
> cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
> stawberries and honeydew melons.

Depends. How are you doing in meeting your goals (weight loss, blood
sugar, digestion, whatever)? If you're happy with how things are going,
then why change? If you've been doing this for a while and your results
aren't what you want, then maybe you need to cut back on the fruit.

Low carb doesn't have to be no fruit.

Martha

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Taffy Stoker - 12 Jan 2004 02:57 GMT
>I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
>cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
>stawberries and honeydew melons.

You could try Neanderthin if you do not want to give up the fruit.
tintinet - 12 Jan 2004 18:36 GMT
> I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
> cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> harmful?  I don't like blueberries and I'm not too fussy about
> stawberries and honeydew melons.

Certainly not! At least, once your are out of induction, if you want
to go through that, anyway.

I eat fruit daily, and not just tomatoes, avocados, peppers, etc. I do
like and emphasize berries. Many fruits are an acceptable part of a
low-carb WOE; you will probably want to be aware of glycemic index and
glycemic load of those you eat, however:

http://diabetes.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.mendosa.com/com
mon%5Ffoods.htm

jmk - 12 Jan 2004 18:45 GMT
>>I've stopped eating pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, corn, potato chips,
>>cake, candy and chocolate bars.  Must I give up fruit too?  I love
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> http://diabetes.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.mendosa.com/com
mon%5Ffoods.htm

Have you checked out the http://www.glycemicindex.com/ site?  I find
that to be a lot easier since you can just type click GI Database and
type in kiwi to see that the GI is 47-58.  To me that's a lot easier
than all of the scrolling on the Mendosa site.

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Ignoramus26983 - 12 Jan 2004 18:45 GMT
> I eat fruit daily, and not just tomatoes, avocados, peppers, etc. I do
> like and emphasize berries. Many fruits are an acceptable part of a
> low-carb WOE; you will probably want to be aware of glycemic index and
> glycemic load of those you eat, however:

Tomatoes and peppers are NOT fruits.

i
jmk - 12 Jan 2004 18:54 GMT
>>I eat fruit daily, and not just tomatoes, avocados, peppers, etc. I do
>>like and emphasize berries. Many fruits are an acceptable part of a
>>low-carb WOE; you will probably want to be aware of glycemic index and
>>glycemic load of those you eat, however:
>
> Tomatoes and peppers are NOT fruits.

From a botany point of view, tomatoes and peppers are fruits as are
cucumbers and almonds.  There is actually a Supreme Court ruling, though
(involving tarrifs I think) that says that tomato is a vegetable.

FWIW, from a botany point of view, roots (carrots), stems (asparagus),
leaves (lettuce, cabbage), bulbs (onions, garlic) and flowers (broccoli)
are vegetables.

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jmk in NC

Ignoramus26983 - 12 Jan 2004 19:05 GMT
>>>I eat fruit daily, and not just tomatoes, avocados, peppers, etc. I do
>>>like and emphasize berries. Many fruits are an acceptable part of a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> cucumbers and almonds.  There is actually a Supreme Court ruling, though
> (involving tarrifs I think) that says that tomato is a vegetable.

At least I am gladt hat the Supreme Court agrees with me.:)

i

> FWIW, from a botany point of view, roots (carrots), stems (asparagus),
> leaves (lettuce, cabbage), bulbs (onions, garlic) and flowers (broccoli)
> are vegetables.
 
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