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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Great but this SUCKS
Went on South Beach Diet, lost 12.5 pounds in 9 days, now I am having a GOUT ATTACK... Great!, nothing ever goes right, and nothing can ever be friggin easy... You lose weight but then you have side effects.. Tired of Diets..... Im gonna eat whatever the hell I want, be happy and die from a heart attack at 50. I finally find a diet that works and I cant stay on it because of gout... Fu&* This | Went on South Beach Diet, lost 12.5 pounds in 9 days, now I am having a | GOUT ATTACK... Great!, nothing ever goes right, and nothing can ever be [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] | | Fu&* This Interesting. I didn't know that South Beach was "high-protein" (which can aggravate gout). I know that on Atkins, we don't eat any more meat than on a normal diet ; it's high-fat, moderate protein, low-carb. Sorry to hear that you're planning on "eating whatever the hell you want" and "dying from a heart attack at 50." Of course it's your option; no one can put food in your mouth but you. Good luck an enjoy those last few years.  SignaturePeter website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo Im sorry I just needed to rage for a few minutes, im just so frustrated, ive tried so many diets and failed, and finally this one works and i have a gout attack.. I quit smoking Marijuana 2 months ago, I quick cigs 2 weeks ago and Ive lost weight on this south beach thing and now Im screwed because of gout. Im going to call my doctor on Monday and see what he thinks.. Thanks for the responses... I appreciate the concern. > | Went on South Beach Diet, lost 12.5 pounds in 9 days, now I am having a > | GOUT ATTACK... Great!, nothing ever goes right, and nothing can ever be [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > can put food in your mouth but you. Good luck an enjoy those last few > years. > Im sorry I just needed to rage for a few minutes, im just so > frustrated, ive tried so many diets and failed, and finally this one > works and i have a gout attack.. You can do something about the gout and still continue with your diet plan. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=gout&meta=group%3Dalt. support.diet.low-carb I quit smoking Marijuana 2 months > ago, I quick cigs 2 weeks ago and Ive lost weight on this south beach > thing and now Im screwed because of gout. Not if you don't want to be. Im going to call my doctor > on Monday and see what he thinks.. Take along some info, from the referenced posts on the subject. There is some good advice from gout sufferers who also lowcarb. Signaturerevek Give a man a fire and he's warm for the day, but set fire to him and he's warm for the rest of his life. {Jingo, 1997} Thanks... > > Im sorry I just needed to rage for a few minutes, im just so > > frustrated, ive tried so many diets and failed, and finally this one > > works and i have a gout attack.. > > You can do something about the gout and still continue with your diet > plan. http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=gout&meta=group%3Dalt. support.diet.low-carb > I quit smoking Marijuana 2 months > > ago, I quick cigs 2 weeks ago and Ive lost weight on this south beach [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Take along some info, from the referenced posts on the subject. There > is some good advice from gout sufferers who also lowcarb. Randy, Last Sunday on NBC they had a dieter challenge where the guy who did Atkins developed gout- It didn't say what he corrected (maybe processed meat) but the atkins team corrected his diet and he went on to lose over 100 lbs. Don't give up- we need you around, figure out what triggered it and keep going. www.atkins.com there is a link to email a professional there. Diane > Im sorry I just needed to rage for a few minutes, im just so frustrated, ive > tried so many diets and failed, and finally this one works and i have a gout [quoted text clipped - 27 lines] > > can put food in your mouth but you. Good luck an enjoy those last few > > years. > Randy, Last Sunday on NBC they had a dieter challenge where the guy who did > Atkins developed gout- It didn't say what he corrected (maybe processed [quoted text clipped - 46 lines] > > > Peter > > > website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo Excessive amounts of pork triggers gout in many individuals, usually is a genetic trait as well. Myway >Excessive amounts of pork triggers gout in many individuals, usually is >a genetic trait as well. Pork is not one of the main triggers. More common triggers are: 1) nuts 2) shellfish 3) alcoholic beverages 4) aspirin I have seen warnings from the so-called 'medical' profession that a high-fat, high-protein diet will cause gout. I have not found that to be the case. If you have ever had a gout attack, then you become much more likely to have another, and the trigger can be almost *any* change in diet, exercise, or sleep habits. Most common treatment for gout is allopurinol. Allopurinol is usually well-tolerated, and has the advantage of being very inexpensive (using my IAB membership, I get mine for $17.50/year). I have been able to stop the onset of a gout attack by drinking massive quantities of water, temporarily increasing my allopurinol dosage (with the approval of my doctor) and switching to a more basic diet (mostly eggs, fresh meats, fruits & veggies). Emphasis on MASSIVE quantities of water, in excess of a gallon/day. --- Howard Lee Harkness Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net I agree. I would rather die of a heart attack early than live long with a bunch of ailments. SignatureJC Eat less, exercise more. -- > Went on South Beach Diet, lost 12.5 pounds in 9 days, now I am having a GOUT > ATTACK... Great!, nothing ever goes right, and nothing can ever be friggin [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Fu&* This > From: JC Der Koenig (Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:53:47 GMT) > MsgId: <vF4Mb.6091$Rx6.2257@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com> [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I would rather die of a heart attack early than live > long with a bunch of ailments. OK, but can't we make it dying of CO2 poisoning while sleep or something? || From: JC Der Koenig (Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:53:47 GMT) || MsgId: <vF4Mb.6091$Rx6.2257@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | OK, but can't we make it dying of CO2 poisoning while sleep or something? Not a lot of people expire from carbon dioxide poisoning. Maybe CO would be a painless way to go though. ... <g> SignaturePeter website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo Well I'm Bi-Polar Manic Depressive also, maybe I can overdose on my Depakote. Hmm... well... Bummer, sorry kids im not in a state of mania right now, so suicide is off of today's activities.. rss > > From: JC Der Koenig (Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:53:47 GMT) > > MsgId: <vF4Mb.6091$Rx6.2257@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > OK, but can't we make it dying of CO2 poisoning while sleep or something? Are you sure CO2 would work? Idiot. SignatureJC Eat less, exercise more. -- > > From: JC Der Koenig (Sun, 11 Jan 2004 04:53:47 GMT) > > MsgId: <vF4Mb.6091$Rx6.2257@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com> [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > OK, but can't we make it dying of CO2 poisoning while sleep or something? > Are you sure CO2 would work? > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > > > OK, but can't we make it dying of CO2 poisoning while sleep or something? Probably figures...what's an extra "2" going to count. Myway > Went on South Beach Diet, lost 12.5 pounds in 9 days, now I am having a GOUT > ATTACK... Great!, nothing ever goes right, and nothing can ever be friggin [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Fu&* This Well, that isn't a very good attitude to take. If you have a strong mind, the body will follow you know. AFAIK, and a south beach person will need to confirm this for me - that diet is controlled protein, not necessarily high protein. You may require less protein than other people your build, but that is no reason to just throw up your hands and yell I QUIT! usually, a regularly active type person does not want to go over 20-30% total calories from protein, but on these LC diets, it can be difficult. I would suggest you try the zone diet, it is specially formulated to keep your levels of fat, protein, and carbs to a set level, perhaps you can have more luck with that. Of course, you can always lose your health, develop other problems like osteoporosis, diabetes, heart problems, high cholesterol, low energy, possibly sleep apnea, and general irritation from your diet. This is your call my friend. I trust you will make the choice you feel is right for you, I hope it is the correct choice. > Well, that isn't a very good attitude to take. > If you have a strong mind, the body will follow you know. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > usually, a regularly active type person does not want to go over 20-30% > total calories from protein, but on these LC diets, it can be difficult. southbeach isn't a high protein diet. it's more balanced. it emphasizes "good" fats (monounsaturated), lean proteins, high fiber and whole grain carbs, and avoids refined carbs, "bad" fats, and anything that has a high glycemic index. besides, as i understand it, to completely control gout by diet alone, you'd have to eat so little protein that it would be unhealthy, so diet is no longer the recommended way to treat it. you should be fine as long as you avoid organ meats and shellfish. -kelly (on southbeach since 9/03) >whole grain >carbs There is no essential difference between carbs from so-called 'whole' grains and carbs from sugar. Not to mention that the so-called 'whole' grain crap available at the grocery store is not really 'whole' anything; it's just the same old crap with a little husk added. --- Howard Lee Harkness Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net > >whole grain > >carbs [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > 'whole' anything; it's just the same old crap with a little husk > added. There is this difference: Whole grains are more complex, and are lower on the glycemic index. You will "feel" refined white grains (like white flour) faster than you will "feel" whole grains. As a result, some diets (because remember, Atkins is not the only diet out there) have you eat whole grains, because some diets are all about balancing your blood glucose levels, which takes away your cravings for junk food. >Went on South Beach Diet, lost 12.5 pounds in 9 days, now I am having a GOUT >ATTACK... Great!, nothing ever goes right, and nothing can ever be friggin [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >at 50. I finally find a diet that works and I cant stay on it because of >gout... Gout is one of those things that can be triggered by 1) a loss of weight, 2) a gain of weight, 3) an increase in physical activity, 4) a decrease in physical activity, 5) taking aspirin, 6) eating nuts/shellfish/etc, or 7) damned near any change in diet, exercise, or sleeping habits. I seriously doubt that the "South Beach Diet" is the specific cause, even though the SBD is not a particularly good diet. If you can tolerate allopurinol, that is usually the best preventative. Then check out a more reasonable diet, such as Cordain's Paleo Diet, Audette's NeanderThin, or Eades Protein Power. You can get the Eades book, carb-counter pamphlet, and wall chart all for under $10 (including shipping) at http://www.SuzyQShop.com --- Howard Lee Harkness Insurance for H1-Bs: http://www.H1Bins.com Healthcare for the uninsurable: http://www.AFFHC.com Medigap insurance information: http://medigap.supremesite.net > Went on South Beach Diet, lost 12.5 pounds in 9 days, now I am having > a GOUT ATTACK... Great!, nothing ever goes right, and nothing can [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > attack at 50. I finally find a diet that works and I cant stay on it > because of gout... Cheep medicine fixed mine. Go see your doctor. |
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