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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Sugar Alcohols
Afternoon all, Hubby and I went shopping and saw all sorts of "low carb" things that after I read the label weren't really low carb to me -- they were subtracting fiber from the carbs -- which I understand and am okay with -- but they were also subtracting sugar alcohols --- that's not the way I learned how it worked -- can someone confirm that I can only subtract fiber from carb counts not fiber & alcohols??? Thanks in Advance...  Signature~K Low carbing with Hubby 01/05/04 The scales: ~K (265) 149/143/130 (had WLS 03/05/02) *Week one lost 6 pounds ~J 238/231/200 *Week one lost 7 pounds My website: http://www.geocities.com/lilmskitty@sbcglobal.net/index.htm the theory is that sugar alcohols are NOT absorbed so they aren't part of the effective carb count. it wouldn't matter to me.................................i get lower intestinal gas, just thinking about them! :) Signatureread and post daily, it works! rosie "Hell they won't lie to me/ Not on my own damn TV/ But how much is a liar's word worth/ And whatever happened to peace on earth?" ....................................Willie Nelson REGIME CHANGE BEGINS AT HOME ****VOTE**** Afternoon all, Hubby and I went shopping and saw all sorts of "low carb" things that after I read the label weren't really low carb to me -- they were subtracting fiber from the carbs -- which I understand and am okay with -- but they were also subtracting sugar alcohols --- that's not the way I learned how it worked -- can someone confirm that I can only subtract fiber from carb counts not fiber & alcohols??? Thanks in Advance... -- ~K Low carbing with Hubby 01/05/04 The scales: ~K (265) 149/143/130 (had WLS 03/05/02) *Week one lost 6 pounds ~J 238/231/200 *Week one lost 7 pounds My website: http://www.geocities.com/lilmskitty@sbcglobal.net/index.htm > the theory is that sugar alcohols are NOT absorbed so they aren't part > of the effective carb count. > it wouldn't matter to me.................................i get lower > intestinal gas, just thinking about them! > :) Some are poorly absorbed but none of them are carbs to begin with. They are alcohols. --Bryan Hi- I too am a fan of the occasional treat, as long as one is careful and does not overdo it. I just wanted to take a moment and point out this post was incorrect. Sugar alcohols are neither sugar, nor alcohols - they just look like them chemically. Candy Man > > the theory is that sugar alcohols are NOT absorbed so they aren't part > > of the effective carb count. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > --Bryan > Afternoon all, > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Thanks in Advance... It depends on whether you absorb them or not. Some people do and some don't. If you're not diabetic (testing with a meter doesn't work with non-diabetics) the only way to tell is to experiment and see if you stall, or get the munchies, indicating an insulin reaction. Maltitol *when combined with chocolate* often produces an insulin effect most like sugar, but a much lesser effect if it is not combined with chocolate. Nobody knows why yet. Several other SAs are absorbed incompletely, when they are absorbed. A few aren't absorbed at all. http://www.diabetes.ca/Files/SugarAlcohols--Wolever--CJDDecember2002.pdf Lacitol (Hershey's sugar free chocolate) and erythritol (Z-carb bars) are two that don't, but lacitol can still give unpleasant GI symptoms, while erythritol has much less chance of doing so. erythritol info: http://tinyurl.com/ypmf9 http://www13.netrition.com/lowcarbsuccess_erythritol_page.html revek "In science it often happens that scientists say, 'You know that's a really good argument; my position is mistaken,' and then they would actually change their minds and you never hear that old view from them again. They really do it. It doesn't happen as often as it should, because scientists are human and change is sometimes painful. But it happens every day. I cannot recall the last time someting like that happened in politics or religion." -- Carl Sagan 1987 CSICOP Keynote Address (revek adds: or the field of dietary nutrition and weight control) > Hubby and I went shopping and saw all sorts of "low carb" things that = > after I read the label weren't really low carb to me -- they were = > subtracting fiber from the carbs -- which I understand and am okay with = > I learned how it worked -- can someone confirm that I can only subtract = > fiber from carb counts not fiber & alcohols??? Yes, that's correct, sugar alcohols are carbs and they have calories in them. Also, do not eat candy and junk food, the point of dieting is not to eat fake candy, it is to learn to eat well. i i, We aren't eating junk and candy marked low carb -- but I saw them and was curious - my husband enjoys "Extra" polar ice flavored gum and I limit him to one piece a day (we're on induction) so I thought I might be being to harsh since the carbs associated in the gum are all sugar alcohols. Hence the reason I posted the question as the same seems to be apparent in some beef jerky -- again I limit that snack so that all the little carbs don't add up and cause a problem. Signature~K Low carbing with Hubby 01/05/04 The scales: ~K (265) 149/143/130 (had WLS 03/05/02) *Week one lost 6 pounds ~J 238/231/200 *Week one lost 7 pounds My website: http://www.geocities.com/lilmskitty@sbcglobal.net/index.htm > > Hubby and I went shopping and saw all sorts of "low carb" things that = > > after I read the label weren't really low carb to me -- they were = [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > i > i, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > seems to be apparent in some beef jerky -- again I limit that snack > so that all the little carbs don't add up and cause a problem. You really don't have to excuse or explain your choices to anybody. However, it is wise to limit SAs while on induction. Induction is not about weight loss although it is a nice side benefit. Signaturerevek A child of five could understand this! Fetch me a child of five! > i, > > We aren't eating junk and candy marked low carb Oustanding! Congratulations. > -- but I saw them > and was curious - my husband enjoys "Extra" polar ice flavored gum [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > same seems to be apparent in some beef jerky -- again I limit that > snack so that all the little carbs don't add up and cause a problem. You are quite wise in being conservative, not eating candy, and counting sugar alcohols as carbs, which they are, officially and in reality. They are carbs, they have calories in them, and they are usually present in junk food that one should not be eating. Chewing gum is a sort of thing that tends to be very small and is chewed for a while. So you can;t get much, per day, out of chewing gum, but yes, I would count it all towards your daily total. i > Also, do not eat candy and junk food, the point of dieting is not to > eat fake candy, it is to learn to eat well. > > i I get so annoyed when I hear this. The point of dieting is to get your health, and ultimately your life under control. If most of us had the ability to stick with strict regimen...we wouldn't be in the position we were. Obviously this WOE requires serious changes to our eating habits, but if someone does not stall eating a treat occasionally, then why begrudge them that? I personally do not stall eating an occasional LC bar or snack. Believe me, if they do not stall you...you will learn quickly that overdoing it with them can be...well....uncomfortable. The sugar alcohols will cause a mighty sore stomach if you do anything more than use them as an occasional snack.In moderation however...I find they do get me past the occasional craving quite nicely. >> Also, do not eat candy and junk food, the point of dieting is not to >> eat fake candy, it is to learn to eat well. >> >> i > > I get so annoyed when I hear this. at least it catches your attention. > The point of dieting is to get your health, and ultimately your life > under control. correct. > If most of us had the ability to stick with strict regimen...we > wouldn't be in the position we were. incorrect. I am not proposing any "strict regimen". All I am suggesting is staying away from junk food and fake food. There is still a world of food available to you, meat, fish, milk products, vegetable products, etc etc etc. All kinds of food, maybe except flour and sugar. That's not "strict" in any sense of the world. "strict" sould be to suggest that you go vegan, or strictly low carb, or strictly low fat. My suggestion is merely common sense, avoiding eating foods made to be addictive. My personal diet is, more or less, no junk food and no sugar diet, minus some flour based carbs as well, a little lighter on fruits, which allows me to effectively control calories. I am not suggesting that everyone follows this diet even though it seems sensible to me. What I am suggesting to everyone, is to stay away from junk food. > Obviously this WOE requires serious changes to our eating habits, > but if someone does not stall eating a treat occasionally, then why > begrudge them that? > I personally do not stall eating an occasional LC bar or snack. Believe me, > if they do not stall you...you will learn quickly that overdoing it with > them can be...well....uncomfortable. The sugar alcohols will cause a mighty > sore stomach if you do anything more than use them as an occasional snack.In > moderation however...I find they do get me past the occasional craving quite > nicely. But what good are you doing to yourself? i |
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