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Jean B. - 13 Jan 2004 18:42 GMT
Carb Fit products.  I guess I didn't look at all of them.  The
cookies don't contain maltitol; they contain erythritol and
inulin!  Come to think of it, they also have eyrthritol in the
(new?) Soooo Lite sweetener along with stevia.  Okay, now someone
can tell me whether maltitol, erythritol, and inulin are more
natural than Splenda is.  Also, is Splenda less controversial than
stevia is?  Stevia which has not even been approved as a food and
must be sold as a supplement????

Don't get me wrong!  I'm very happy to see these products at Whole
Foods.  I am just wondering how they are deciding what they deign
to carry.    
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Saffire - 13 Jan 2004 21:40 GMT
> Carb Fit products.  I guess I didn't look at all of them.  The
> cookies don't contain maltitol; they contain erythritol and
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> stevia is?  Stevia which has not even been approved as a food and
> must be sold as a supplement????

They also sell it in their bulk herb section -- for $180 and OUNCE!!!

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Jean B. - 13 Jan 2004 23:49 GMT
> > Carb Fit products.  I guess I didn't look at all of them.  The
> > cookies don't contain maltitol; they contain erythritol and
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>
> They also sell it in their bulk herb section -- for $180 and OUNCE!!!

I have not seen it sold that way here.  That's interesting.  Is
there anything else that is supposedly not food sold in that
section?

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Pat Paris - 13 Jan 2004 21:56 GMT
>can tell me whether maltitol, erythritol, and inulin are more
>natural than Splenda is.  

Inulin is primarily made from chicory roots. I guess that makes it
"more natural" than Splenda.

>Also, is Splenda less controversial than
>stevia is?  

Depends on who you ask.

>Stevia which has not even been approved as a food and
>must be sold as a supplement????

"Not even approved as a food in the United States" you meant to say.
It's been used for decades in Japan and Brazil, if that makes any
difference.

Sucralose + inulin + stevia makes an excellent sweetener, btw.  I'm
ordering some erythritol to try with the inulin+stevia blend also.
Jean B. - 13 Jan 2004 23:55 GMT
> >can tell me whether maltitol, erythritol, and inulin are more
> >natural than Splenda is.
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> >
> Depends on who you ask.

Right.  I am on the fence on this.

> >Stevia which has not even been approved as a food and
> >must be sold as a supplement????
> >
> "Not even approved as a food in the United States" you meant to say.
> It's been used for decades in Japan and Brazil, if that makes any
> difference.

You are quite right!  Thanks for correcting this.

> Sucralose + inulin + stevia makes an excellent sweetener, btw.  I'm
> ordering some erythritol to try with the inulin+stevia blend also.

Yes, I have heard this is a good blend.  I have yet to try it but
keep meaning to.  I do have some....
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Preesi - 14 Jan 2004 00:48 GMT
> Inulin is primarily made from chicory roots. I guess that makes it
> "more natural" than Splenda.

http://www.iherb.com/inuflora2.html

Granular Inulin sold for sweetening purposes!
Pat Paris - 14 Jan 2004 02:20 GMT
>> Inulin is primarily made from chicory roots. I guess that makes it
>> "more natural" than Splenda.
>
>http://www.iherb.com/inuflora2.html
>
>Granular Inulin sold for sweetening purposes!

I use the NOW Inulin: http://www.iherb.com/inulin.html 

It's a little cheaper than the Inuflora and has no sugars.
Jean B. - 14 Jan 2004 13:49 GMT
> >> Inulin is primarily made from chicory roots. I guess that makes it
> >> "more natural" than Splenda.
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>
> It's a little cheaper than the Inuflora and has no sugars.

Now I'm getting confused.  I thought inulin was for adding bulk,
not for sweetening.  I do see this brand has added fructose.  
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Pat Paris - 14 Jan 2004 16:17 GMT
>Now I'm getting confused.  I thought inulin was for adding bulk,
>not for sweetening.  I do see this brand has added fructose.  

The NOW Inulin is sweet, I'd say about 50% as sweet as sugar.  I
understand that some inulin is not sweet, depending on its source and
how it was processed.  As for the fructose, it's less than 1/2 gram
per teaspoon and I think it is probably negligible.  Mixing the inulin
with stevia results in 1 teaspoon equal to 1 cup of sugar and I'm not
really worried about such a tiny amount of fructose in that.
Priscilla H Ballou - 15 Jan 2004 17:56 GMT
Pat Paris <patnparis@nospamyahoo.nowaycom> quoth:
>I use the NOW Inulin: http://www.iherb.com/inulin.html 

>It's a little cheaper than the Inuflora and has no sugars.

From the URL you provided:
 Other Ingredients: Fructose.

 Contains no added starch, sugar, yeast, wheat, gluten, preservatives,
 chemical additives or artificial color.J 100% Natural.

Since when isn't fructose a sugar???

Priscilla
Ignoramus12172 - 15 Jan 2004 18:15 GMT
> Pat Paris <patnparis@nospamyahoo.nowaycom> quoth:
>>I use the NOW Inulin: http://www.iherb.com/inulin.html 
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>
> Priscilla

Fructose is a sugar. Inulin is a carb that many plants use to store
energy.

Sounds like one more bullshit fake low carb ingredient.

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Pat Paris - 15 Jan 2004 20:31 GMT
>Pat Paris <patnparis@nospamyahoo.nowaycom> quoth:
>>I use the NOW Inulin: http://www.iherb.com/inulin.html 
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>
>Since when isn't fructose a sugar???

I asked the folks at NOW about that.  Their response was that the
fructose occurs naturally in inulin (it's the F in FOS), remains bound
to the fiber when the FOS is produced from inulin, and is not digested
until it reaches the lower intestines, where it is digested by
friendly bacteria and therefore has no effect on BG levels.  I'm not
sure I totally buy this, but at about .15 g per teaspoon it doesn't
really affect me so I'm not worrying about it.
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 15 Jan 2004 22:25 GMT
> Pat Paris <patnparis@nospamyahoo.nowaycom> quoth:
> >I use the NOW Inulin: http://www.iherb.com/inulin.html 
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Since when isn't fructose a sugar???

no *added* sugar doesn't mean no sugar.
Priscilla Ballou - 16 Jan 2004 01:34 GMT
> > Pat Paris <patnparis@nospamyahoo.nowaycom> quoth:
> > >I use the NOW Inulin: http://www.iherb.com/inulin.html 
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> no *added* sugar doesn't mean no sugar.  

That's true, but she said "It's a little cheaper than the Inuflora and  
has no sugars."

Priscilla
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 16 Jan 2004 01:51 GMT
> > > Pat Paris <patnparis@nospamyahoo.nowaycom> quoth:
> > > >I use the NOW Inulin: http://www.iherb.com/inulin.html 
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> That's true, but she said "It's a little cheaper than the Inuflora and
> has no sugars."

ah, i see that she did.  it was the URL that specified "no added."

i guess we're both right :)
 
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