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Frito-Lay Introduces Low-Carb Chips

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Andi - 14 Jan 2004 17:54 GMT
 NEW YORK (Reuters) - Snack foods company Frito-Lay said Wednesday it
is introducing two new types of chips to capitalize on the popularity of
low-carbohydrate diets.

The two new products, called Doritos Edge and Tostitos Edge, will cut
out 60 percent of the carbohydrates that are in regular Doritos and
Tostitos.

Frito-Lay, a unit of PepsiCo Inc., has already eliminated trans fats
from its brands. Trans fats, which give products a longer shelf life,
have been linked to heart disease.

The new chips will use soy proteins and fiber as substitute ingredients,
the company said in a statement. Both Tostitos Edge and Doritos Edge
will have six net carbohydrates, 10 grams of protein, and three grams of
fiber.

The low-carb craze, popularized by the high-protein Atkins diet, has
food companies rolling out new products to jump on the bandwagon.

Fast food chains McDonald's Corp. and Burger King revamped their menus
to cater to customers counting their carbs.

The alcohol industry is also taking notice. Anheuser-Busch Cos. Inc.'s
low-carb Michelob Ultra beer has been a big profit driver for the past
year and Adolph Coors Co. is rolling out Aspen Edge beer to take a part
of the health-conscious market.

Spirits companies such as Diageo Plc. are using their advertising to
point out that many of their drinks have always been low carbohydrate
offerings.

Doritos Edge is currently being tested in Phoenix, and both products
will be available across the United States in May.
Avatar - 14 Jan 2004 18:04 GMT
>  NEW YORK (Reuters) - Snack foods company Frito-Lay said Wednesday it
>is introducing two new types of chips to capitalize on the popularity of
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>Doritos Edge is currently being tested in Phoenix, and both products
>will be available across the United States in May.

Starting to drool now..

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SouthernSursee - 14 Jan 2004 18:15 GMT
Chips, even low carb ones...will not be reappearing in my diet anytime soon.
Chips are part of the problem that led me to changing my WOE completely.  No
Junk food, no fast food ... no fat on my thighs!!  

I think its nice that so many companies are jumping on the low-carb
bandwagon...but many people were able to successfully lose weight through low
carb without all of these secondary products. I think "convenience" is what led
me down the fat track anyways.   Just good proteins, fats and veggies, should
be enough.

imho,
Kira in SC

Kira in SC
225/199/140
LC since 8-6-03
Roger Zoul - 14 Jan 2004 18:32 GMT
:: Chips, even low carb ones...will not be reappearing in my diet
:: anytime soon. Chips are part of the problem that led me to changing
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:: imho,
:: Kira in SC

Where in SC are you, Kira?
Ignoramus32082 - 14 Jan 2004 18:44 GMT
> Chips, even low carb ones...will not be reappearing in my diet anytime soon.
> Chips are part of the problem that led me to changing my WOE completely.  No
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> me down the fat track anyways.   Just good proteins, fats and veggies, should
> be enough.

Same thing here. Chips an other junk food made me fat, I want none of
them anymore, even if frito lay says that they are "low carb".

i
223/176/180
Preesi - 14 Jan 2004 18:50 GMT
> Same thing here. Chips an other junk food made me fat, I want none of
> them anymore, even if frito lay says that they are "low carb".

What about these:
http://store.yahoo.com/candy-crate/pmschba.html

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Avatar - 14 Jan 2004 18:53 GMT
>> Same thing here. Chips an other junk food made me fat, I want none of
>> them anymore, even if frito lay says that they are "low carb".
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>
><G>

Know why they call it mad cow disease?

PMS was allready taken.

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SouthernSursee - 14 Jan 2004 18:57 GMT
I am in a town called Rock Hill.  It is just on the otherside of the North
Carolina border and outside Charlotte (Go Panthers!  actually, I'm not a fan,
but the whole town is going crazy).

I'm a transplant to the South from Southern California.

Kira
Kira in SC
225/199/140
LC since 8-6-03
- 15 Jan 2004 06:39 GMT
| I am in a town called Rock Hill.  It is just on the otherside of the North
| Carolina border and outside Charlotte (Go Panthers!  actually, I'm not a
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| 225/199/140
| LC since 8-6-03

Hi, Neighbor!

My home is in Gastonia, NC just 3 minutes from the SC border.  I used to
work in the next town up from you, Fort Mill (made infamous by Jim & Tammy
Bakker's PTL CLub and Heritage Village).

I work in Emporia, VA right now, stay here during the week and go home to
Gastonia on weekends when I get the chance.
Signature

Peter
website:  http://users.thelink.net/marengo

Teeb - 14 Jan 2004 18:50 GMT
For those of us who have no problems with these kinds of items though, it
sounds great! I do realize there are many different *reasons* why we are
overweight.. for some it's truly an inability to control ourselves with the
foods that are wrong for us so getting completely away is probably the only
answer. Kira I think it's really great you have been able to get yourself
under the kind of control needed to make yourself healthier.. I hate seeing
people resorting to drastic measures such as the stomach operation because
they see it as some glamorous thing all these so-called celebrities are
doing so they think it's an easy way out. In my opinion they need to have
their head stapled.. okok.. way off topic.. one of these days I will have to
vent about my brother's wife, who I have discussed here before, and her
stomach operation.. for now it slips out in bits.. it's too sad for me to
think coherently about it yet..

Teeb  (waiting impatiently now for some low carb Tostito nachos...)

> Chips, even low carb ones...will not be reappearing in my diet anytime soon.
> Chips are part of the problem that led me to changing my WOE completely.  No
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> 225/199/140
> LC since 8-6-03
Yazaira - 14 Jan 2004 20:50 GMT
Well,

Let's see the taste and if there are any secondary effects ;)

Yazaira
Mike - 14 Jan 2004 22:17 GMT
The more I read, the more I learn.

I think the one thing that is consistent with 'Junk Food' is that it
is :
a) readily available -- ie, just go to the cupboard, grab it, sit down
on couch and eat until its all gone, chips, cookies, ice cream, etc.
b) high in calories, all the above are very high if you eat it all.

For me these are the biggest reason to avoid certain things.  I can
easily eat a bag of chips, high carb or low carb, I just ate 1500
calories and that can't be good.  Similarily, nuts, pork rinds,
cookies, etc are all off my list of acceptable food.

Seems like Doritos will have a good seller, the problem is it is very
unlikely they will help people lose weight (IMHO).

Mike

>  NEW YORK (Reuters) - Snack foods company Frito-Lay said Wednesday it
>is introducing two new types of chips to capitalize on the popularity of
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>out 60 percent of the carbohydrates that are in regular Doritos and
>Tostitos.
miss_jaime - 16 Jan 2004 10:19 GMT
>Seems like Doritos will have a good seller, the problem is it is very
>unlikely they will help people lose weight (IMHO).

Well who *can* just eat one???  :-)

Certainly not me.  The whole bag would be gone before I knew it.
jpatti - 16 Jan 2004 16:00 GMT
> The more I read, the more I learn.
>
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> on couch and eat until its all gone, chips, cookies, ice cream, etc.
> b) high in calories, all the above are very high if you eat it all.

We moved to the country and began :"homesteading" stuff 1 1/2 years
ago.  I lost 40 lbs in around 8 months.  I was not doing low-carb.
What I was doing was cooking from scratch.  The only "fast" food in
the house was the leftovers from the last meal...

The weight loss for me stopped after a while, and my blood sugars got
really out-of-control, hence I'm on low-carb again as of Jan 1st.

But... I lost a pile of weight just by not having "convenience" foods
around.  By having to cook and not being able to just open or nuke
something.  I also think it all being "real" food had a lot to do with
it.  Even if you're eating cookies made with sugar, it's simply got to
be better if they're made with freshly ground whole wheat than
pre-packaged stuff in the store...plus mixing and baking burns more
calories than opening a plastic bag.  ;)

My reasons for choosing the way of cooking I have are complex and have
little to do with weight loss or blood sugar control, per se.  I have
a huge food storage here, unlike anything I've ever had before.  I
have about six months worth of food, excluding milk and cream, on hand
right now - canned tomatoes, pasta, peanut butter, beef, turkey,
chicken, pork, ham, bacon, hard wheat, soy sauce, frozen and
home-canned veggies, home-canned soups, jam, frozen shredded cheese
and chunk cheese, maple syrup, honey, peanuts, raisins, potatoes,
onions and garlic in my root cellar.  And I have a year's worth of a
few items - canned fruit, soft wheat berries, rolled oats, most herbs
and spices, pecans, walnuts, white beans, pinto beans.  Note that lots
of this is not low-carb food, but it is *real* food.  You pretty much
have to make something out of most of it in order to eat it (excluding
the nuts).  It's not just there and ready like chips or crackers or
loaves of store-bought bread.

I didn't have to clean out my pantry to start low-carb as the odds
that a sack of wheat berries is going to tempt me are pretty slim!
And even if I do have a huge craving for wheat one day, I have to
grind it and bake something... and the time of fixing it is enough
time for me to change my mind and avoid it.  Whereas a bag of chips
can be opened and eaten in entirety before I even have time to
reconsider.

Similarly...say I'm craving a burrito.  Well, i need to soak the pinto
beans overnight, cook them a few hous the next day, grind soft wheat
berries and make tortialls... there's no way to make a fast burrito
here.  Easiest way to get one would be to head to Taco Bell.  I cook
"regular" food for my family, but since I'm the cook... I can not make
burritos when I'm craving them myself.

I do keep convenience foods on hand, but I keep things I'm less likely
to overeat on than chips.  Hard-boiled eggs, packages of sliced
pepperoni, hard cheese, deli sliced ham.  I'm having lots of cravings
now and having something convenient to munch on is helpful.  But...
the odds that I'm going to overeat *that* badly on hard-boiled eggs is
pretty slim.  Not the way I could do with a bag of chips.

I think that all these companies jumping on the low-carb bandwagon are
going to do precisely as much good for the average dieter as all the
companies jumping on the low-fat bandwagon a few years ago did.  A few
folks may use these items occassionally and be OK - they may not
hinder some folks.  But I don't think they *help* either.  An I doubt
that making low-carb products available is going to result in less
obesity overall.  It will simply result in heavier corporate profits.

People will overeat low-carb Fritos just like they overate low-fat
Pringles.  The fact of the matter is chips is just not a great food
choice.
 
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