OK, so I'm at my goal (although thinking of going a bit farther). I have
lost on Atkins before, but failed to maintain and went hog wild for another
year. This time I'd like to be smart and maintain. How do you find your
limits most easily? I use Keto strips. How quick of a response do they give?
If I have too many carbs for lunch will I know by dinner that I am out of
ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
Ignoramus32082 - 14 Jan 2004 21:09 GMT
> OK, so I'm at my goal (although thinking of going a bit farther). I have
> lost on Atkins before, but failed to maintain and went hog wild for another
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> ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
> many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
Can you use your scale instead of keto strips? If your weight goes up,
be stricter, if it goes down too much, be less strict. What is your
exercise plan and do you eat healthy stuff like vegetables, fish etc?
i
PieNtheSky32 - 14 Jan 2004 21:15 GMT
And......what are your stats? Congrats on making goal!
~*~Pie~*~
> OK, so I'm at my goal (although thinking of going a bit farther). I have
> lost on Atkins before, but failed to maintain and went hog wild for another
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> ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
> many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
gccch - 15 Jan 2004 00:37 GMT
I have done an induction only diet since Thanksgiving, going from 193 to
170. I eat one egg for breakfast, sometime with half slice cheese. Usually a
cheeseburger patty for lunch, and meat for dinner. I occassionally add a few
bites of vegetable or fruit with dinner. Lots of water, an occasional diet
coke. No obvious carbs anywhere. I'm usually an all or nothing type, so need
to be carefull what I add and how much. Using the scale I'm afraid would be
too slow to react.
> And......what are your stats? Congrats on making goal!
> ~*~Pie~*~
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> > ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
> > many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
Jenny - 14 Jan 2004 23:49 GMT
I've found I can't eat a whole lot more in maintenance than I did during my
diet Maybe 200 - 300 calories a day more, but that doesn't work out to a
whole lot of food. One scoop of low carb ice cream and a piece of low carb
bread and there's your 300 calories!
Calories are more important for weight gain for me now than carbs. But I
always keep my carbs relatively low because I need to control my blood
sugar.
What I have done for the last six months of maintenance is cycle back and
forth between a strict low carb diet and a looser one (over 60 grams now and
then) and between a lower calorie and higher calorie regimen. I test
different ways of eating watching the scale carefully, and if I regain a
couple pounds, I tighten up.
It's a lot easier to lose 2 lbs than 20. But if you ignore the 2 lbs it can
become 20 faster than I want to remember. <sigh>.
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> OK, so I'm at my goal (although thinking of going a bit farther). I have
> lost on Atkins before, but failed to maintain and went hog wild for another
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
> many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
Frank Lynch - 15 Jan 2004 00:21 GMT
>OK, so I'm at my goal (although thinking of going a bit farther). I have
>lost on Atkins before, but failed to maintain and went hog wild for another
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
>many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
Are you doing Atkins now? If so, the idea in his plan is that during
the period of OWL you should have been having about 5 fewer grams of
carbs a day than you would be eating to plateau. And you should have
been working yourself up to that slowly in order to determine your
plateau level, then cutting slightly back.
Did you do that?
If so, you should know what your carb level is for maintenance.
Frank Lynch
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gccch - 15 Jan 2004 12:24 GMT
Frank,
I have not done that. It was easier for me to just stay on induction and add
a few vegetables and fruit (very little - a bite here or there). So I guess
I need to start working up in that manner. I just don't know how fast the
strips will respond to going out of ketosis.
Thanks,
> >OK, so I'm at my goal (although thinking of going a bit farther). I have
> >lost on Atkins before, but failed to maintain and went hog wild for another
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> The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
> http://www.samueljohnson.com/
Frank Lynch - 16 Jan 2004 19:49 GMT
>Frank,
>I have not done that. It was easier for me to just stay on induction and add
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>
>Thanks,
Well, that's basically the process... I hope you don't lose too much!
Frank Lynch
The Samuel Johnson Sound Bite Page is at:
http://www.samueljohnson.com/
Doug Freyburger - 16 Jan 2004 23:25 GMT
> I have not done that. It was easier for me to just stay on induction and add
> a few vegetables and fruit (very little - a bite here or there).
I bet you also stayed on Induction the last time. So how did that work?
You went wild and gained it all back.
> So I guess
> I need to start working up in that manner. I just don't know how fast the
> strips will respond to going out of ketosis.
Right. Atkins is a 4-phase process. Treat it as a 1-phase process and
you have not the slightest hope of keeping it off.
Ketosis: It takes a week to be certain you're out of ketosis. Occasional
false negatives, uncertainties of carb counting, getting sneaked low fat
salad dressing, all manner of details conspire to make it impossible to
decide you're out of ketosis without reading negative several days in a
row.
emkay - 15 Jan 2004 02:36 GMT
>OK, so I'm at my goal (although thinking of going a bit farther). I have
>lost on Atkins before, but failed to maintain and went hog wild for another
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
>many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
I've only been doing the maintenance thing for a couple of months now, but
how I keep on track is by weighing every day. I have an upper weight limit
at which I will eat a bit less for a week or two till it goes away. That
has not happened so far.
I eat pretty much the same way that I ate in the the last couple of months
of weight loss, and exercise almost the same amount, so it's been a pretty
smooth transition. I did lose a few unexpected pounds after reaching goal,
and they've stayed off (which is probably why I haven't ever gone above my
upper limit yet).
I've never used a keto strip or tested for ketosis. I estimate carbs and
calories, but I don't keep an exact count. So far, so good.
Em
jamie - 16 Jan 2004 15:54 GMT
> I use Keto strips. How quick of a response do they give?
> If I have too many carbs for lunch will I know by dinner that I am out of
> ketosis? They opened a new Krispy Kreme down the street. Need to know how
> many I can eat before dinner.. just kidding.
If you eat doughnuts and go out of ketosis, your body will dump all the
blood ketones to urine, and you might not see a negative reading until
the next morning.

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