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carbs vs. calories, the tradeoff?

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Jean B. - 15 Jan 2004 15:06 GMT
Sooooo, today I wanted to buy a loaf of Atkins Country Light
Bread.  Three g of carbs and 70 calories per slice IIRC.  I was
then looking at other LC and "Lite" breads--some of which were 6 g
carbs and 35 calories per slice.  How does one decide the tradeoff
between calories and carbs?  What have you done?  Being
indecisive, I may just end up using half of one and half of
another.  

You run into this early on with cream.  Do you use heavy cream, or
do you use half & half?  I ended up pretty much using the latter.

Does this depend on how many calories one can afford to eat in a
day?  As a petite (and now more petite) woman, I can't eat that
many calories, so those extra calories would add up quickly.
Maybe if I were a large person and could consume more calories my
take on this would be different.
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Susan - 15 Jan 2004 15:13 GMT
>You run into this early on with cream.  Do you use heavy cream, or
>do you use half & half?  I ended up pretty much using the latter.

I use milk.

>Does this depend on how many calories one can afford to eat in a
>day?

YES!

 As a petite (and now more petite) woman, I can't eat that
>many calories, so those extra calories would add up quickly.
>Maybe if I were a large person and could consume more calories my
>take on this would be different.

I use regular lite breads; half the calories and better tasting, IMO.

Susan
Nina - 15 Jan 2004 17:22 GMT
>Sooooo, today I wanted to buy a loaf of Atkins Country Light
>Bread.  Three g of carbs and 70 calories per slice IIRC.  I was
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>indecisive, I may just end up using half of one and half of
>another.  

For me if comes down to tcalories.  BUt I don't LC to control my blood
sugar and am not diabetic, blah blah blah.  So a few extra carbs won't
kill me.  I didn't get fat eating too many carbs and few calories, I
got fat by consuming my weight in chocolate.

Cheers,
Nina

delicious! evil! calorie free!
http://www.theslack.com
Roger Zoul - 15 Jan 2004 17:37 GMT
:: :: calories, I got fat by consuming my weight in chocolate.

Not a bad way to get fat...........
Jean B. - 15 Jan 2004 17:45 GMT
> :: :: calories, I got fat by consuming my weight in chocolate.
>
> Not a bad way to get fat...........

Um, there are also, dare I say it, NUTS!
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Roger Zoul - 15 Jan 2004 18:01 GMT
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
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:: Um, there are also, dare I say it, NUTS!

And there is.......drumroll.......nuts and chocolate!
Jean B. - 15 Jan 2004 22:53 GMT
> :: Roger Zoul wrote:
> :::
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> And there is.......drumroll.......nuts and chocolate!

Oh no!  Anything but that!  Sometimes I think it is a good thing
that my choclate consumption is limited.
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Jenny - 15 Jan 2004 17:39 GMT
Jean,

Another vote for calories.

Keeping my carbs low controls my blood sugars and prevents blood-sugar
induced hunger. But only keeping a watch on calories will keep the weight
off.

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hba1c 5.2.
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> Sooooo, today I wanted to buy a loaf of Atkins Country Light
> Bread.  Three g of carbs and 70 calories per slice IIRC.  I was
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> Jean B.
Jean B. - 15 Jan 2004 17:51 GMT
> Jean,
>
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> induced hunger. But only keeping a watch on calories will keep the weight
> off.

So we strive to keep our calories within a range that's
appropriate while paying as much attention as possible to the carb
content (not speaking [in general] of induction here, folks--more
like maintenance and thereabouts).  Thats' what I'm thinking.  I
keep having to fine-tune my thoughts on this.

I also have to rethink treats.  Even if they are low carb, I think
for me they have to be occasional and not routine.  I wonder if
bread pudding makes a legitimate breakfast....  <g>  

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Brenda - 17 Jan 2004 17:00 GMT
My vote goes to watching calories along with carbs.

<< "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> wrote in message news:4006AC83.1258A7CD@rcn.com...
> Sooooo, today I wanted to buy a loaf of Atkins Country Light
> Bread.  Three g of carbs and 70 calories per slice IIRC.  I was
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> Jean B.
>><BR><BR>

Brenda
135/106
Jean B. - 17 Jan 2004 18:14 GMT
> My vote goes to watching calories along with carbs.

Makes it a bit tricky sometimes.  My next bread pudding, for
example, may contain half Atkins Country White bread and half of
some "lite" bread.  The Atkins bread is 3 g carb and 70 cals per
slice.  The "lite" bread is ca 6 g carb and 35-40 cals.

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Brenda - 17 Jan 2004 21:07 GMT
<< Makes it a bit tricky sometimes.  My next bread pudding, for
example, may contain half Atkins Country White bread and half of
some "lite" bread.  The Atkins bread is 3 g carb and 70 cals per
slice.  The "lite" bread is ca 6 g carb and 35-40 cals.
>><BR><BR>
My boyfriend made the best bread pudding a few months ago using Atkins bread
and heavy cream. He dotted cream cheese throughout for a sort of cheese danish
taste. We served this with a bourbon sauce.  We got 6 servings out af a
standard size loaf pan. When I calculated the nutrition of the bread pudding it
was 497 calories, 8 grams total carbs, 4 grams fiber.  (Don't even ask for the
stats on the bourbon sauce!)

As yummy as this was, I told my BF he'll have to use half and half next time.
500 calories for a dessert is outrageous! Most of my meals don't have that many
calories.

Brenda
135/106
Jean B. - 17 Jan 2004 22:43 GMT
> << Makes it a bit tricky sometimes.  My next bread pudding, for
> example, may contain half Atkins Country White bread and half of
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> Brenda
> 135/106

OMG, that sounds REALLY good!  I might use carb-counting "milk" if
I try it.  Tonight's experiment is ginger cheesecake.
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Brenda - 17 Jan 2004 23:28 GMT
<< Tonight's experiment is ginger cheesecake. >><BR><BR>
Ginger Cheesecake!! Please post the recipe! During the holidays I was bumming
about missing gingerbread. Maybe LC Ginger Cheesecake would satisfy my craving.
BTW has anyone found an LC version of gingerbread?

Brenda
135/106
Jean B. - 18 Jan 2004 00:01 GMT
> << Tonight's experiment is ginger cheesecake. >><BR><BR>
> Ginger Cheesecake!! Please post the recipe! During the holidays I was bumming
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> Brenda
> 135/106

I'll post it if it turns out, and I won't know that until tomorrow
night unless I am up extremely early and make that breakfast.  
Unfortunately, since my candied ginger experiment didn't work out,
I am going to use some of the real thing.  The label on the bin at
Whole Foods claims 4 pieces contain 14.xxx (I have the precise
number downstairs) g of carb.  Right now I have diced one piece,
and that will be distributed among the 6 mini-cheesecakes.  Not
too bad.  I think one could probably make candied ginger with
maltitol, but...

I haven't tried gingerbread, but I did try to make spice cookies a
couple of weeks ago, and they were like sawdust.  Ugh.
Unfortunately, my favorite gingerbread is made with mincemeat, so
that's out.  Hmmm, gingerbread...  
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Kalish - 18 Jan 2004 20:29 GMT
><< Tonight's experiment is ginger cheesecake. >><BR><BR>
>Ginger Cheesecake!! Please post the recipe! During the holidays I was bumming
>about missing gingerbread. Maybe LC Ginger Cheesecake would satisfy my craving.
>BTW has anyone found an LC version of gingerbread?

Yes, it's made with, believe it or not, pork rinds.  That seems to
turn everyone off but the person who posted it originally said it was
fabulous (the ginger completely hides any pork rind taste).  Google in
this newsgroup for it, I don't have it off hand.   Kalish
Jean B. - 18 Jan 2004 22:55 GMT
> Yes, it's made with, believe it or not, pork rinds.  That seems to
> turn everyone off but the person who posted it originally said it was
> fabulous (the ginger completely hides any pork rind taste).  Google in
> this newsgroup for it, I don't have it off hand.   Kalish

Thanks, I thought I had googled for it yesterday and then realized
I was just looking for clues on how much crumbs I needed for six
muffin cups.  Soon I'm gonna try what I made.
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Obsidian - 19 Jan 2004 17:27 GMT
The two are not independent of each other, they go hand in hand.

Obsidian

>My vote goes to watching calories along with carbs.
>
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>Brenda
>135/106
Penguin - 15 Jan 2004 18:45 GMT
> Sooooo, today I wanted to buy a loaf of Atkins Country Light
> Bread.  Three g of carbs and 70 calories per slice IIRC.  I was
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> Maybe if I were a large person and could consume more calories my
> take on this would be different.

I have been fortunate in that cutting down my carbs has resulted in far
less of an appetite thereby reducing my urges to snack. That to me is the
true secret of LC, reduction in appetite.

-Cheers
Jean B. - 15 Jan 2004 22:58 GMT
> I have been fortunate in that cutting down my carbs has resulted in far
> less of an appetite thereby reducing my urges to snack. That to me is the
> true secret of LC, reduction in appetite.

Yes, I suspect that is a big part of the picture.

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