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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Hunger
I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go away. Here is what I have eaten so far: 3 egg Omlette with 5 slices of bacon, a little onion, some mushrooms and muenster cheese. For lunch I ate almost 1 1/4 lbs of ground black angus beef and mustard. I've also drunk over 64 Oz of water. So why am I still hungry? Nimrod "Nimrod" , Give it a few days sunshine. Did you read the literature (either in the Atkins book or on the website) about the first 3 or 4 days into induction? It takes that long for your body to use up the carbohydrate stores. After that, ketosis will most likely set in and you will no longer feel the hunger. Hang in there! Linda > Did you read the literature (either in the Atkins book or on the website) > about the first 3 or 4 days into induction? It takes that long for your > body to use up the carbohydrate stores. After that, ketosis will most > likely set in and you will no longer feel the hunger. Hang in there! I've read the book. What I am saying is that I'm eating MORE food then I was. For breakfast I was satisfied with a sausage mcgriddle for 1.78. It is very unusual for me to eat a large breakfast, but today I did. I have also never eaten over 1 lb of ground beef before at once. I intentionlly made the high fat choices in hopes that it would satiate my appetite. I have sliced pork planned for supper. Everything today was or will be fried. In the omlette I even used bacon grease. Hmmmm, good stuff! Thanks, Nimrod > > Did you read the literature (either in the Atkins book or on the website) > > about the first 3 or 4 days into induction? It takes that long for your [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Thanks, > Nimrod Not meaning to offend, even though Atkins says that you can eat as much as you want of no-carb food, you need to cut back on the amount of food you eat. The first 3 days of induction were hard for me because I was a heavy eater, but my willpower got me through it. You will be hungry (either a lot or just a little) at the beginning of any diet, but given time your body will adjust to smaller amounts of food. Be careful not to eat too much protein, but eat a variety of things; veggies, salads, meat. Moderation is still the key. You didn't say how often you eat. You might want to try eating several smaller meals, instead of 2 or 3 large ones, plus keep from going longer than 6 hours between meals. Hope this helps. Linda > I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go away. > Here is what I have eaten so far: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Nimrod Takes a minimum of 2 days for the body to cleanse out the carbs and two weeks for full-scale induction. Are you seriously asking this question...? >I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go away. >Here is what I have eaten so far: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >I've also drunk over 64 Oz of water. So why am I still hungry? Save some food for the rest of us. You nearly ate my whole days worth for lunch. http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap040114.html Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long. *snip* > Save some food for the rest of us. You nearly ate my whole days worth > for lunch. ______________________________ Mars-ha, Mars-ha, Mars-ha, save your shite for someone who cares. Still haven't caccati in mano e prenditi a schiaffi, I see. Well, you are eating more than I am, I must say that. I have been known to eat a 1 pound burger quite often with cheese, but not that extra 1/4 lbs. I don't have a 3 egg omelet, but 1 or 2 jumbos. Sounds good though. You need to relax and not concern yourself a little hunger at the beginning. In a few days as long as you stick it out, you will feel great and not hungry. You just have to do something very hard for all Americans. Be patient, and it will come. Curt > I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go away. > Here is what I have eaten so far: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Nimrod I thought on Atkins you were encourged to eat a lot the first few days so you won't be hungry. That's what the old book I have that came out in the 70 said. I got the newest book out of the library but I haven't read it yet. The first 4 days I ate like a pig by day 5 my appetite had calmed way down. Nimrod eat until you can't hold any more 2 t- bone steaks if you want it, that will keep you on the diet until the hunger pangs disappear. Some people written about in the first book ate like that through out the diet and still lost weight. she didn't mention what veggies besides for onions she ate. Cheese nor melted lasts longer, takes more time to eat- watch for sweeteners- and read the new book- don't know whats in the old one but the new one recommends you eat your recommended 20 carb in veggies- also I started off using the atkins supplements which help with cravings too- In a few days pizza and cake looked disgusting.  Signature--------------------------------------------------------------------- "Are you still wasting your time with spam?... There is a solution!" Protected by GIANT Company's Spam Inspector The most powerful anti-spam software available. http://mail.spaminspector.com > I thought on Atkins you were encourged to eat a lot the first few days > so you won't be hungry. That's what the old book I have that came out in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pangs disappear. Some people written about in the first book ate like > that through out the diet and still lost weight. Especially eat some fat, I find cheese very filling. Put olive oil on something or swig it plain. In news:20779-400711D3-186@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net, Nancy 8 03 <Lo_Carb@webtv.net> stated | I thought on Atkins you were encourged to eat a lot the first few days | so you won't be hungry. That's what the old book I have that came out [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] | until the hunger pangs disappear. Some people written about in the | first book ate like that through out the diet and still lost weight. > I thought on Atkins you were encourged to eat a lot the first few days > so you won't be hungry. That's what the old book I have that came out in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > pangs disappear. Some people written about in the first book ate like > that through out the diet and still lost weight. Induction is about changing your body chemisry, not about losing weight - so however much you need to eat to get there seems fine by me. That's my approach anyways. OWL is about losing weight, induction is about "getting ready" for it. I am not actually on Atkins, but on PP Phase 1. Day 17 and I'm *finally* not ravenous. Took a while to get here. I've been craving like crazy since I began and it was a relief to wake up today and not feel hungry! I'd set myself a food plan of 150 g protein and 30 g carb/day... ignoring calories and fat, and was "filling it out" with extra pepperoni and cheese cause I was just so damned hungry/craving through the beginning. My *actual* need for protein as calculated by PP is around 85 g/day, but I started with lots more for the initial period, and even overate beyond that just to not make things too difficult on myself. I'd also started exercising simultaneously with the diet, so didn't want my willpower spread too thin. The point was not to lose weight, but to make permanenet lifestyle changes. I think you cna only brute-force through willpower for so long, and my expected time on a low-cabr diet is the rest of my life... so adjusting as easily as possible was a much bigger goal than losing weight initially. Anyways, the cravings finally went away. I will probably lower my protein a bit over the next few weeks until I get to a more reasonable amount and start tracking calories as I do to make sure I don't fall too low - I'll aim for a range in between 10 X goal weight and 8 x current weight, while remaining on Phase 1 carbs for a while yet. I'm in this for the long haul, therefore am unconcerned how much weight I lose at the beginning - though I have managed to lose 9 lbs and am happy about that. ;) But... I expect to be 9-12 months on Phases 1 and 2 of PP before moving to maintenance, and even then will be on low-carb for life due to diabetes... so what happens the first few *weeks* isn't so important as setting myself up properly for what will happen over the *years* and *decades*. Getting the insulin issues under control is the point at the beginning... changing your biochemistry to make fat-loss a "downhill" situaiton rather than "uphill" situation all the way. Maximizing fat loss is *not* important to me. Whether I reach goal in 9 months or two years, it doesn't matter particularly... because either is short-term compared to the decades I plan to live low-carb. > I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go > away. Here is what I have eaten so far: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Nimrod Your appetite will level-off as soon as ketosis kicks in. It takes a few days. Ketosis will naturally curb your appetite and you may wonder how you're going to possibly eat another bite. Don't sweat the quantities right now (other than the carbs) because that's not what Induction is for. Eat more and add some LC veggies! Have some fat... use oil and butter. It helps. ~miette > I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go away. > Here is what I have eaten so far: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Nimrod I ate WAYYYY more than usual my first 2 days of induction, and felt constantly hungry. Day 3 for some reason I was instantly cured of my appetite. Make sure you are eating your veggies! Have a large salad, or some steamed broccoli with melted butter and cheese. I found that the veggies did help to make me feel full more than the meat did. Good luck. -- Spring LC since 1/1/04 250/242/170 >I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go away. >Here is what I have eaten so far: [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Nimrod I don't see enough vegetables there. Also, are you sure it's hunger and not cravings? You could be going through a serious carb withdrawl. Yvonn get the veggies on the induction list in there, also your 3-4 oz cheese allowance, and take your supplements. You may be craving a nutrient. Remember it takes a few days to get adjusted, but eat till comfortable, even if it seems like a lot of food, you will level out. SignatureDM > >I started induction today and have been unable to make the hunger go away. > >Here is what I have eaten so far: [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Yvonn It took 3 days of being very hungry before I leveled out. And during those first 3 days I was eating a LOT of food (allowed foods). What I found made me feel full the best are warm veggies. A bowl of steaming broccoli/cauliflower with melted butter and cheese on top... that made me feel better. By day 2 I was feeling a little sick of meat because I'd been eating so much trying to stop the hunger. Stick it out, give yourself time... it gets way better. -- Spring LC since 1/1/04 250/239/170 |
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