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Rebeq - 16 Jan 2004 00:09 GMT
One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
and if it has helped them while LC-ing.

Thanks, rebeq (boston, ma)
Mars Not M_un - 16 Jan 2004 01:24 GMT
>One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
>hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
>and if it has helped them while LC-ing.

Get thee to Curves. Do not hesitate.

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mena - 16 Jan 2004 01:50 GMT
>> >and if it has helped them while LC-ing.
*snip*

> Get thee to Curves. Do not hesitate.
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Diane Mancino - 16 Jan 2004 01:49 GMT
I walked in to our local and decided It wasn't for me- recorded program
tells you to advance to the next machine- I wasn't impressed with ours- My
treadmill at home is better, but check your curves out- they offer a free
workout

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> One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
> and if it has helped them while LC-ing.
>
> Thanks, rebeq (boston, ma)
PieNtheSky32 - 16 Jan 2004 03:08 GMT
Same for me.......cool for some....not for me.
~*~Pie~*~

> I walked in to our local and decided It wasn't for me- recorded program
> tells you to advance to the next machine- I wasn't impressed with ours- My
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> >
> > Thanks, rebeq (boston, ma)
Luna - 16 Jan 2004 02:04 GMT
> One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
> and if it has helped them while LC-ing.
>
> Thanks, rebeq (boston, ma)

I enjoy mine quite a bit.  It's really simple and quick, making it a good
start for women who have never worked out before.  They have a low-carb
diet plan as well, which you don't have to follow, but at least it means
the employees know what you're talking about if you do want to discuss
diet.  You get weighed and measured every month, which is great incentive
for me, and different locations sometimes have different little games you
can play while working out.  Mine has a different game every day, and I
like games so sometimes that motivates me to go when I don't really "feel
like it." I think working out there has definitely helped me, but I was a
total couch potato before.

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Cheri - 16 Jan 2004 03:18 GMT
Can you sign up for a short time, or is it a year at a time? Also, what
is the cost monthly? I'm thinking of trying it, but am coming off a
severe sprained ankle since October and still have a little trouble if
I'm on my foot too long. Do you think the type of excercise that is done
there would be something I can do? Thanks for the information in
advance.

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

Luna wrote in message ...

>I enjoy mine quite a bit.  It's really simple and quick, making it a good
>start for women who have never worked out before.  They have a low-carb
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>
>I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws.
Luna - 16 Jan 2004 04:27 GMT
The price varies by location.  I believe they do have an option where you
can pay month-to-month, but it costs more.  If you sign a yearlong contract
and you want out earlier, you pay the difference between what you've been
paying and the month-to-month rate, up to a maximum of 5 months worth at my
location. The specific machines also vary by location, but I think all the
locations have "recovery platforms" in between machines, where you are
supposed to jog in place to keep your heartrate up.  I bet that would kill
your ankle. If you explain your ankle injury to them (they ask about
injuries when you sign up) they may be able to do something for you like
let you skip the platforms until you're healed (although you may get in
other people's way if you do that) or they may have some other alternative
for you.  I suggest calling your location and discussing it with them.

> Can you sign up for a short time, or is it a year at a time? Also, what
> is the cost monthly? I'm thinking of trying it, but am coming off a
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> >I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
> flaws.

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Cheri - 16 Jan 2004 15:44 GMT
Thanks for the info. I will check with them, but at least I know how it
works now.

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

Luna wrote in message ...
>The price varies by location.  I believe they do have an option where you
>can pay month-to-month, but it costs more.  If you sign a yearlong contract
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>
>I have only 3 flaws.  My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3
flaws.
LCer09 - 17 Jan 2004 17:09 GMT
>locations have "recovery platforms" in between machines, where you are
>supposed to jog in place to keep your heartrate up.  I bet that would kill
>your ankle

No jogging! Your heart rate should already be up from the machine.
Luna - 17 Jan 2004 17:35 GMT
> >locations have "recovery platforms" in between machines, where you are
> >supposed to jog in place to keep your heartrate up.  I bet that would kill
> >your ankle
>
> No jogging! Your heart rate should already be up from the machine.

Yeah, but to _keep_ it up, I have to jog.  Some women just walk, some do
more creative stuff.  Also, at my location, they told me some women go
every day, but they alternate between going heavy on the machines and going
light on the machines but heavy on the cardio.

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LCer09 - 18 Jan 2004 05:06 GMT
>> >locations have "recovery platforms" in between machines, where you are
>> >supposed to jog in place to keep your heartrate up.  I bet that would kill
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>every day, but they alternate between going heavy on the machines and going
>light on the machines but heavy on the cardio.

??? You should be going heavy on the Cardio BY going heavy on the machines.
Hey, I won't harp on it anymore, but if Gary (the man who invented the circuit)
was in your club, he would immediately stop anyone from jogging and make them
work the machine so hard they can barely get off it at the end of 30 seconds,
much less jog for the next 30 seconds. I know, I've seen him do it. (he also
freaks out when people jam the squat machine down on their shoulders, or
develop a rhythm on the leg press) I've seen a professional stunt man wear
himself out on those machines. The circuit really was designed to be used a
certain way, and I just think it's sad that the franchise grown has grown so
rapidly that they can't keep up with proper training and classes for owners and
their staff like they use to.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/237/140
& hubby- 310/266/180
Luna - 18 Jan 2004 05:48 GMT
> >> >locations have "recovery platforms" in between machines, where you are
> >> >supposed to jog in place to keep your heartrate up.  I bet that would
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> Me- 265/237/140
> & hubby- 310/266/180

I get that, I go as hard on the machines as I can.  But no matter how hard
I go on some of them, especially the ones where you're sitting and just
working your arms, I definitely can still jog.  Also, ok, if the platforms
aren't for jogging or walking, what are you supposed to do there, just
stand still?  I thought the whole point of circuit training was to get your
muscle building and your aerobics all in one package.

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LCer09 - 18 Jan 2004 16:22 GMT
>Also, ok, if the platforms
>aren't for jogging or walking, what are you supposed to do there, just
>stand still?  I thought the whole point of circuit training was to get your
>muscle building and your aerobics all in one package.

Never said they weren't for walking. Walk, tap your toes to the music, twist.
Do something low-impact. You do get your muscle building and aerobics together.
On the machines. Someday if the club is empty, you should try doing a few
machines in a row, skipping the platforms. Not recommended for everyday, but
it'll definitely convince you of their aerobic capabilities, LOL! If you get
your heart rate down a tiny bit on the recovery platforms, you'll have that
much more "oomph!" for the next machine! :-) If you can't get enough out of the
bicep-tricep machine, you may want to have the people who work there service
and/or replace the hydraulics on it. (not sure how old and/or busy your club
is, but they do wear out) And make sure your inner wrists are facing each
other, not facing up while you alternate pushing and pulling. My husband (who
despite being fat, has always been VERY muscular also) could wear himself out
on that machine, but he'd do twice as many reps as I did to do it. The key
really is that if you feel like you could do a few more reps when you get off,
you didn't move it fast enough and/or through the full range of motion that
those machines require. Or that they have bad hydraulics.

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/237/140
& hubby- 310/264.5/180
Luna - 18 Jan 2004 17:37 GMT
> >Also, ok, if the platforms
> >aren't for jogging or walking, what are you supposed to do there, just
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> Me- 265/237/140
> & hubby- 310/264.5/180

Gotcha.  I know they service the machines in some way, tightening them or
something, every day on their lunch break, and I usually go in after lunch.  
On some of the machines, especially the squat machine, my legs are very
wobbly when I get off, and I do just walk in place for about 10 or 15
seconds, but then I pick up the pace again.  It's so hard not to jog or
dance!!  When my heartrate gets up into the "fat burning range" I just
start feeling so good I can't help it.  I know something must be working
right, I must be getting stronger, because on a few machines I count the
number of reps I can do and I am able to do more than when I started.  Like
on the squat, when I started I could only do 6, now I'm up to 11.  Oh, and
the employees pay special attention when someone's on that particular
machine to make sure they're doing it right, since that one has the most
potential for back injury if you do it wrong.

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LCer09 - 18 Jan 2004 23:50 GMT
>Gotcha.  I know they service the machines in some way, tightening them or
>something, every day on their lunch break, and I usually go in after lunch.  

Hmm... They probably clean them, but I doubt they rotate and lubricate the
hydraulic cylinders every day. If they do, they're more ambitious than I ever
was when I worked there, LOL! If there is a machine you can't wear the muscle
out on, I'd ask them for help on it. It's hard to know who to push and who not
to. I mean, I had an 73 year old member who would do about 5 reps on each
machine and that was being superwoman for her! One trick I would do when people
said they couldn't build up enough resistance was to grab the machine (while
they were using it) and pump it really hard for them (the shoulder press and
leg curl were the best for this) a few times. Then I'd let go and they'd feel
how much resistance had built up from going faster. (and usually say "Oh WOW!"
as they strained to keep up with it.)

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/237/140
& hubby- 310/264.5/180
Luna - 19 Jan 2004 03:36 GMT
> >Gotcha.  I know they service the machines in some way, tightening them or
> >something, every day on their lunch break, and I usually go in after lunch.  
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> Me- 265/237/140
> & hubby- 310/264.5/180

Well, I definitely feel like I'm wearing the muscles out, I think.  They
"burn" if you know what I mean, and when I leave there I feel all wobbly
and kind of drunk, and sore the next day.  BUT, during the workout, about
halfway through, I start feeling like I have more overall energy than when
I came in, and that's usually when I pick up the pace more on the
platforms.  I don't want to mislead you and make you think that my jogging
is all huffing and puffing, I talk with other people during my whole
workout.  And it's not jogging like you would do outside, it's, well, I
guess it's more like bouncy walking.  If I just walk or twist or sway, I
promise you, my heart-rate drops out of fat burning range pretty quickly.  
I like to keep my heart-rate pretty steady throughout, instead of having it
drop on the platforms and go back up on the machines.  I feel more tired
after the machines than after the platforms.

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LCer09 - 19 Jan 2004 04:55 GMT
> I feel more tired
>after the machines than after the platforms.

And that's a good thing! :-)

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/237/140
& hubby- 310/264.5/180
-rosie- - 18 Jan 2004 15:42 GMT
>................. The circuit really was designed to be used a
> certain way, and I just think it's sad that the franchise grown has grown so
> rapidly that they can't keep up with proper training and classes for owners and
> their staff like they use to.

i must agree!
i joined our local CURVES, and was VERY disappointed.
the music, was BLASTING, DISCO BEAT music, and there were MIRRORS
everywhere, and NO "community feeling" at all......................

i resigned my membership, lost some money, and never looked back!
(i was a little jealous of all those in here, who seemed to LOVE
their CURVES franchise)

guess what?

our local CURVES,  WENT OUT OF BUSINESS...................i guess i
wasn't the only one who was disappointed!
LCer09 - 18 Jan 2004 16:28 GMT
>(i was a little jealous of all those in here, who seemed to LOVE
>their CURVES franchise)
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>our local CURVES,  WENT OUT OF BUSINESS...................i guess i
>wasn't the only one who was disappointed!

That's too bad. A Curves run correctly is a great thing!

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/237/140
& hubby- 310/264.5/180
jpatti - 16 Jan 2004 14:02 GMT
> Can you sign up for a short time, or is it a year at a time? Also, what
> is the cost monthly? I'm thinking of trying it, but am coming off a
> severe sprained ankle since October and still have a little trouble if
> I'm on my foot too long. Do you think the type of excercise that is done
> there would be something I can do? Thanks for the information in
> advance.

Swimming might be a better exercise for you then since the water
carries your weight and all you need to do is move through it.

You might check out a Y membership.  I have unlimited swimming for
just over $40/month... plus about 30 different fitness classes I can
attend (aerobics, yoga, tai chi, pilates, power cycling, aquasize)...
plus a fitness center with personal trainers... racquetball and squash
courts... sauna and steam room in the locker room (that gets me there
even if I don't feel like working out!)

I paid the extra $18 for a family membership, so all 4 of us can go as
much as we want for $15 each.

For me, the swimming is the biggest advantage becuase I can't do
anything aerobic for any length of time without pain because of the
excess weight.  Swimming makes it a lot easier.  I tend to swim after
an exercise class, but am taking the lamer exercise classes for now (I
*really* enjoy Tai Chi).
The Queen of Cans and Jars - 16 Jan 2004 02:14 GMT
> One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
> and if it has helped them while LC-ing.
>
> Thanks, rebeq (boston, ma)

it's better than nothing, but not as good as a good free weight program.
Laureen - 16 Jan 2004 22:22 GMT
> > One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> > hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
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>
> it's better than nothing, but not as good as a good free weight program.

And be careful. If you choose the month by month with checking acct
debit it is cheaper BUT...... they will debit your account on a
regualr monthly basis whether you are there or not. I was going last
year and dropping my then 4 years old off at Grammys for her to watch
while I went, well..... Gram took sick, DH moved to Seattle for 3
months to be with her b/c she has surgery and couldn't get off the
ventilator, she died, and all went to hell. So with no babysitter and
life in havoc I stopped going and they continued to debit my account
because it WAS a one year contract. If you chose to pay by check each
month it is quite a bit more. Hell..... before I pay that kind of
money again I will walk LOL!!!
Laureen
Luna - 17 Jan 2004 05:31 GMT
> > > One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> > > hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
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> money again I will walk LOL!!!
> Laureen

Well, my location said if you want to quit they will charge $10 a month for
every month you've been going (the difference between a contract rate and a
pay by the month rate) with a maximum of $50.

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Meowzer - 17 Jan 2004 13:07 GMT
A lot of people point out that walking is a lot cheaper than Curves.   You
can't argue with that, but for a lot of people walking doesn't work because
the motivation isn't there.

I joined Curves just before Christmas.   I've decided to do three months at
the monthly rate and then decide if I want to commit to a year.   I don't
want to pay for a yer until I've had a chance to see what my longer term
enthusiasm for the program looks like.    I also would never given ANYONE
permission to automatically debit my checking or savings account.   Ever.
There are just too many hassles if there is ever a billing dispute.  Use
your credit card (not your debit/check card).   This way you are protected
if your franchise goes under, rates change without announcement, an employee
decides to embezzle, etc.

Back to the question of free vs. paying for Curves.   So far, I find that
paying for Curves is well worth it.  Even ignoring the specter of having to
walk in this sub-freezing weather and the fact that our neighbor hood is not
pedestrian friendly, the routine is, well, too routine.   At Curves my 1/2
hour consists of constantly changing exercises.   If I hate what I'm doing
right now, I don't care.  In 30 seconds I'll be doing something else.
Interspersed with this is conversation with others, all in a safe, warm
environment.   Last week our Curves monitor brought in a pack of Trivial
Pursuit cards.  We all got so wrapped up in the game that I was two stations
into my fourth circuit before I realized I had gone into extra exercise.
I'm still amazed that I accidentally exercised more than I planned to.
This would never, ever have happened walking on my own in the cold dark of
early morning.

> > > > One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> > > > hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
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> every month you've been going (the difference between a contract rate and a
> pay by the month rate) with a maximum of $50.
Lee - 16 Jan 2004 20:04 GMT
> One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
> and if it has helped them while LC-ing.
>
> Thanks, rebeq (boston, ma)

I've been going to Curves for two years, and I really like it. But,
you have to be pretty motivated to get the most out of the workout.
Many women there just seem to go through the motions, and don't get
much of a workout for the time spent. If you really work the machines
hard (that's where you increase your heart rate) and use the recovery
pads, you can effectively exhaust your muscles (pretty much all major
muscles) after a workout.

We currently have 12 machines. Most Curves start with the basic 8
machines, and add more when membership reaches a certain level - at
least that's how our's works. So, one time around is about 12 minutes.
Most ladies do the circuit twice. I don't feel I get enough of a
workout in 24 minutes, so I do the circle 4 times. At least, I'm
getting a good aerobic workout, even if a free weight program would be
more effective for muscle defining and strengthening.

After my workout, I do a set of abdominal crunches - we have a few of
those ab roller things that I find, also, to be pretty good. And, we
have some hand weights that I use, to exhaust my triceps (which don't
seem to get much work from the Curves machines) and biceps.

And, I take yoga classes.

I think Curves is a great workout, but it's not complete. Better than
nothing, not as good as other workouts out there.

Lee
tcomeau - 16 Jan 2004 20:17 GMT
> One of those "Curves" gyms just opened up in my town. I'd appreciate
> hearing from anyone who works out there as to what they think about it
> and if it has helped them while LC-ing.
>
> Thanks, rebeq (boston, ma)

Absolutely. They help you build lean body mass (muscle) which helps
metabolize fat. Good way to get past a plateau. The wife has just
about lost 24 inches and Curves helped her get there along with my
low-carb cooking.

TC
Rebeq - 20 Jan 2004 02:06 GMT
Thanks for all the advice. If I find I am plateauing I might try it
for 3 months, but for now just starting back on atkins and have some
aerobic equipment at home. My main concern is that my grip strength
isn't what it used to be, as I have carpal tunnel syndrome pretty
badly. But on the upside, the very short time period for each exercise
would keep my hands from going numb (can only hold on to things for
about 10 minutes).

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