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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Ideal weight?
I am not sure where to find what a ideal weight is, or should be? My 11 year old son is 200 lbs, 11 years old, and around five foot. My 17 year old son is 6'1, 250 lbs. I am 252 lbs, 5'5, and 37 years old. Does age matter? Then height, and if you are male or female? Or maybe what you felt like at one time, your ideal weight was? Mine was 150. But then was 135 for awhile too, yet felt fatigues and tired all the time. Sunshyne, the standard recommendation for adults is to have Body Mass Index between 20-25. For small chidlren, it does not apply because BMI does not properly account for height. BMI divides weight by height squared, instead of cubed, as it should be. My 2.5 yo son, for instance, looks quite well fed, and yet has BMI of 17. In adults, this weakness of BMI is masked by the fact that we are all roughly of the same height. At any rate, obviously, all three of you are badly overweight and are in urgent need of weight loss, and exercise etc. I would ask your doc for some referrals for your little ones, don't just pick a diet for them. Also, the kids may need a lifestyle change. They won't live long like that. How did they get so fat? Have they seen an endocrinologist? i > I am not sure where to find what a ideal weight is, or should be? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > was 150. But then was 135 for awhile too, yet felt fatigues and tired > all the time. > I am not sure where to find what a ideal weight is, or should be? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > was 150. But then was 135 for awhile too, yet felt fatigues and tired > all the time. I don't believe there's such a thing as "ideal weight". The things to be concerned with, IMO, are muscularity, flexibility, cardio fitness and body fat percentage. Body fat should be measured accurately by an experienced person using skinfold tests and there are tables with recommended levels. For example, for males under 30 Good/Ave is 14-20, Very Good is 11-13 and excellent is < 11. For females 30-39 Good/Ave is 21-29, Very Good is 17-20 and Excellent is <17. These numbers are from Duke University Health System Centre for Living and were current a couple of years ago; since then the goalposts may have been moved! > I am not sure where to find what a ideal weight is, or should be? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > was 150. But then was 135 for awhile too, yet felt fatigues and tired > all the time. I have no answer to your questions, but I did read an interesting article about obesity in children the other day. Your posting reminded me of some of the advice that was offered. It will really only help your 11 year old, though, since the 17 year old has oviously already experienced his growth spurt. Basically, it said rather than trying to have your young child lose weight, instead, have them grow into their weight - maintain current weight but stretch it out, as he grows taller. Of course, 200 lbs. is still heavy, even if he achieves his brother's height, but it's better than 200 lbs. at 5'. Anyway, it was just something I read...I thought it was an interesting approach, to let your child "grow into" their weight. Maybe they think a more mature teen would have an easier time limiting consumption than a pre-puberty child. I don't know. Lee > I have no answer to your questions, but I did read an interesting > article about obesity in children the other day. Your posting reminded [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Lee That's part of my strategy with my daughter. She is both growing taller AND losing weight. As a result, she looks a lot better! Of course, she doesn't like the thought of my weighing less than she does, even though she is taller than I am. That seems to be having a good affect in her eating.  SignatureJean B. height and weight don't mean much, but it is time to go low carb. You can do skin fold tests and whatever, but I would just try to get some pounds off. Exercise and cut the carbs at dinner should help a lot at those ages. Curt > I am not sure where to find what a ideal weight is, or should be? > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > was 150. But then was 135 for awhile too, yet felt fatigues and tired > all the time. > I am not sure where to find what a ideal weight is, or should be? There are entire books on the subject. A wide assortment of guidelines float around. Any objective method beats just randomly guessing. > Does age matter? Then height, and if you are male or female? Yes. Look in insurance tables for example. They are easy. But note that they run 10 too low, so look up your age and height, then add 10 to the weight it tells you to target. > Or maybe what you felt like at one time, your ideal weight was? Mine > was 150. But then was 135 for awhile too, yet felt fatigues and tired > all the time. One easy guideline is how much you weighed at age 25. It does not work for people who were fat as kids, only for people who filled out later in life. I used body fat percentage. The book Protein Power by Drs Eades as an entire chapter of directions to follow that ends up giving you your ideal weight range and other nifty numbers. I was 140-145 at age 25. Getting confused some on some of the other things mentioned. So going to do my research. I appreciate the input. Wanted to mention too, the 11 year old is ADDH. Has food sensitivities. He has been overweight most of his life. Doctors have even said to put him on a diet, which has always been a low fat one. Don't work with him. He binges, when I am not around too. He has alot of addictions. He plays football, is the big framed sort of guy like you see play football. Though he has alot of injuries. Right now being fitted for a sort of brace through a podiatrist. Honestly is he lost weight, he wouldn't need that, he wouldn't have the ankle problems. The teasing in school is a big issue because of his weight. I see all the time about obesity happening at such a younger age. Like in the news. I am going to have a rough time with the induction part of his diet. Maybe though, it will help with the ADDH, the Mood Swings, the binges. I know, hard to believe a 11 year old can be like this. The 17 year old. He found out about me wanting to begin the Atkins, was right on it. Its his age I think, the body image. He is in construction right now too, in a vocational school. So he needs to keep fit. He put most of his weight on over the winter. Then loves to sit around and do not much exercise. Couch potato, computer nerd at times. Anyways, thanks again, got me thinking on some things.... > Wanted to mention too, the 11 year old is ADDH. Has food > sensitivities. He has been overweight most of his life. Doctors have [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Anyways, thanks again, got me thinking on some things.... ADDH? Attention deficit disorder or something else? If you do mean attention deficit, sometimes I wonder how many cases of AD are caused or at least exacerbated by high sugar diets. SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. > ADDH? Attention deficit disorder or something else? If you do mean > attention deficit, sometimes I wonder how many cases of AD are caused or at > least exacerbated by high sugar diets. Yes, attention deficit disorder/hyperactivity. Yep, read the same thing, that it could be caused by hig sugar diets. He loves pasta. Going good so far today. They like the food. |
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