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Priscilla H Ballou - 16 Jan 2004 21:55 GMT
Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
muffin half.  *sigh*

Thanks.

Priscilla
Cheri - 16 Jan 2004 23:37 GMT
Thomas's is supposed to make one, as well as bagels, but I haven't seen
them out here in CA yet. I keep looking. :-)

--
Cheri
Type 2, no meds for now.

Priscilla H Ballou wrote in message ...
>Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
>muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
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>
>Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 15:48 GMT
> Thomas's is supposed to make one, as well as bagels, but I haven't seen
> them out here in CA yet. I keep looking. :-)

I couldn't find a reference on the web, and I looked for Thomas's.  Does
anyone know which food congomerate owns Thomas's?  They might have some
info on their website.  From one reference I found I thought they were
Best Foods, but the Best Foods website didn't seem to cover Thomas's.  
Anybody got a package they can look at?

Priscilla
emkay - 17 Jan 2004 16:19 GMT
>> Thomas's is supposed to make one, as well as bagels, but I haven't seen
>> them out here in CA yet. I keep looking. :-)
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>
>Priscilla

It's George Weston Bakeries.  No good info on their site, though they do
have a consumer request email form.

http://www.gwbakeries.com/

Em
Dogstar - 16 Jan 2004 23:52 GMT
If you google "low carb english muffin" both to groups and the web, you'll
get quite a few results.  If the urge is overwhelming, have half slice on
English muffin and do your thing (if you're not on Induction).  Just count
those carbs and adjust accordingly.

**BUT, instead of dreaming of what you you miss -- and shouldn't be
having -- why don't you concentrate on what you *can* have?  On a low-fat
diet, you couldn't have most of the rest of this dish, certainly not the
Hollandaise sauce.  Why not do eggs benedict without the muffin?

Part of *my* problem, initially at least, was mourning the loss of foods I
couldn't have.

Well, those foods I can't have were just what put me at the weight I am now.
I came to the realization I had to reconfigure my eating style.  I now comb
the web and LC cookbooks for a LC recipe that sounds good and try to make it
soon after finding it.  I find new tastes that I would never have thought of
and it certainly makes me focus less on what I miss.

With *any* diet for weight loss, it's to easy to say, "Gee, I can't have
*fill in your favorite food* anymore."  The more one focuses on what's
missing (regardless of the kind of  diet) the more one sets oneself up for
failure.

To acheive success in the long run, one can't regard this WOE as a
temporary -- "until I lose the weight" -- thing.  It's finding alternatives
to the unhealthful choices made before and then living with those
alternatives as a life-style.  The weight-loss period of this WOE is just
the time to establish that.

We have a wonderful WOE that offers us so many exciting choices.  It is a
big adjustment to make, but finding new recipes for LC foods  -- not just
palatable, but delicious ones -- can make that journey easier and more fun.

<stepping off my soapbox now>
***********
Dogstar
restarted LC 11/10/03
241/223.5/160 - 5'10"

> Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
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>
> Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 15:46 GMT
> If you google "low carb english muffin" both to groups and the web, you'll
> get quite a few results.  

Funny, I didn't find anything useful when I did that.  What products did
you find?

> If the urge is overwhelming, have half slice on
> English muffin and do your thing (if you're not on Induction).  Just count
> those carbs and adjust accordingly.

I don't do Atkins.  I'm a diabetic eating to my meter, and white bread
products spike me, especially in the morning.  

> **BUT, instead of dreaming of what you you miss -- and shouldn't be
> having

"Shouldn't be having?"  This isn't a religion, or at least it isn't for
me.  No shoulds -- just choices of things that help my body or hurt my
body.

> -- why don't you concentrate on what you *can* have?  On a low-fat
> diet, you couldn't have most of the rest of this dish, certainly not the
> Hollandaise sauce.  Why not do eggs benedict without the muffin?

Of course I can do that, but what I want is with a muffin.

[sermon snipped]

Priscilla
Dogstar - 17 Jan 2004 17:38 GMT
"Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
> Funny, I didn't find anything useful when I did that.  What products did
> you find?

Try this for one:

https://secure.aspenicecream.com/html/breads.html
Haven't gotten them myself but heard from other people that they are quite
good.

BTW, there is a recipe for English muffins in Dana Carpender's book "500 Low
Carb Recipes" with a count of 6.5 g (net) carbs.  It uses wheat gluten,
psyllium, wheat germ, bran, oat flour, and protein powder.  Planning on
trying it myself sometime.  I will be typing it into my Mastercook file
sometime soon 'cause I think it could be a winner.

> I don't do Atkins.  I'm a diabetic eating to my meter, and white bread
> products spike me, especially in the morning.

I actually didn't know that and your message didn't suggest it.

> "Shouldn't be having?"  This isn't a religion, or at least it isn't for
> me.

Not a religion for me either. I just know that when I start to eat foods
that are not in line with a LC WOE, I get in trouble and it's harder to get
back.  With diabetes, it's a whole 'nother story.

> Of course I can do that, but what I want is with a muffin.
> [sermon snipped]

The "sermon"  was not actually meant to be that, but more a rant on the
folks who say they are trying to lose weight but still end up eating a host
of foods not in line with LC style.  Many times, those folks are the ones
who come back to complain they can't lose the pounds.

***********
Dogstar
restarted LC 11/10/03
241/223.5/160 - 5'10"
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 18:26 GMT
> "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > Funny, I didn't find anything useful when I did that.  What products did
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> Haven't gotten them myself but heard from other people that they are quite
> good.

I don't see any English muffins there.  ???

Priscilla
Dogstar - 17 Jan 2004 18:37 GMT
Oops, must've had a brain blip there -- or I may need to get new glasses.
<g>

Still in all, try the Carpender book for the recipe.  Or, if you're willing
to wait, I can post the recipe once I get it typed into Mastercook.

> > "Priscilla Ballou" <vze23t8n@verizon.net> wrote in message
> > > Funny, I didn't find anything useful when I did that.  What products did
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>
> Priscilla
Jenny - 17 Jan 2004 20:49 GMT
Pricilla,

White bread usually spikes me, but I've found that the whole wheat sourdough
baguettes at Whole Foods work surprisinlgy well for me. I can eat 2 ounces
without trouble, and they are delicious. The big problem is they're also 40
minutes away now that I've moved north. <sigh>

-- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my  email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
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> > If you google "low carb english muffin" both to groups and the web, you'll
> > get quite a few results.
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>
> Priscilla
Myway - 17 Jan 2004 21:07 GMT
> Pricilla,
>
> White bread usually spikes me, but I've found that the whole wheat sourdough
> baguettes at Whole Foods work surprisinlgy well for me. I can eat 2 ounces
> without trouble, and they are delicious. The big problem is they're also 40
> minutes away now that I've moved north. <sigh>

Have you tried Aunt Millies low carb breads yet? I tried the multigrain
claiming 4 net carbs. So far have seen a small spike with one slice, in
2 hours after eating with a meal, BG went from 105 to 129. Not great,
but did show.

Myway
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 22:35 GMT
> > Pricilla,
> >
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> 2 hours after eating with a meal, BG went from 105 to 129. Not great,
> but did show.

You spiked 24 points from 4 grams of carb?  Are you sure you didn't eat
something else?

Priscilla
Jenny - 18 Jan 2004 15:24 GMT
Pricilla,

Your answer about the blood sugar spike from Aunt Millie's bread should have
been directed to whoever responded to my message about the bread.  It was a
reply to me, not me.

-- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my  email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit  http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

> > > Pricilla,
> > >
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>
> Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 18 Jan 2004 17:21 GMT
> Pricilla,
>
> Your answer about the blood sugar spike from Aunt Millie's bread should have
> been directed to whoever responded to my message about the bread.  It was a
> reply to me, not me.

When I look at the attributions below, I see I'm replying to "Myway."  
What am I missing?

Priscilla

> > > > Pricilla,
> > > >
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> >
> > Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 22:14 GMT
> Pricilla,
>
> White bread usually spikes me, but I've found that the whole wheat sourdough
> baguettes at Whole Foods work surprisinlgy well for me. I can eat 2 ounces
> without trouble, and they are delicious. The big problem is they're also 40
> minutes away now that I've moved north. <sigh>

Ooooh!  I'll have to look for them when I'm in next.  I bake my own ww
bread which in moderation doesn't spike me, and for sandwiches I've been
using Pepperidge Farm sourdough WW bread, which is decent.  I'm trying
my first loaf of low-carb bread (Arnold Multi Grain), and a tuna/avocado
sandwich on it (toasted) at noon was pretty good.  It's clear, though,
that one way they get the carbs down is they shrink the slice of bread.  
Teesy weensy!

I've been thinking that when the farmers' markets open in the spring,
I'm going to try some of Iggy's WW rolls, too.

Priscilla
Jean B. - 17 Jan 2004 22:48 GMT
> > Pricilla,
> >
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>
> Priscilla

If you test after consumption, I'd love to hear the results for
Iggy's.
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Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 23:23 GMT
> > I've been thinking that when the farmers' markets open in the spring,
> > I'm going to try some of Iggy's WW rolls, too.
>
> If you test after consumption, I'd love to hear the results for
> Iggy's.

OK, but people can spike differently to different foods.

Priscilla
Alice Faber - 18 Jan 2004 00:16 GMT
> I'm trying
> my first loaf of low-carb bread (Arnold Multi Grain), and a tuna/avocado
> sandwich on it (toasted) at noon was pretty good.  It's clear, though,
> that one way they get the carbs down is they shrink the slice of bread.  
> Teesy weensy!

People keep saying that, but you know, I'm not that old, but when I was
a kid in the 60s, I could swear that was the normal size of a piece of
bread. We used to get Arnold Brick Oven White Bread or the similar
Pepperidge Farm bread (I forget the name), and it's my impression that
these haven't changed in size. However, there are a lot of types of
bread, like Branola, that do have larger slices.

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Priscilla Ballou - 18 Jan 2004 02:39 GMT
> > I'm trying
> > my first loaf of low-carb bread (Arnold Multi Grain), and a tuna/avocado
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> these haven't changed in size. However, there are a lot of types of
> bread, like Branola, that do have larger slices.

I think this is smaller than Brick Oven White.  We used to eat that,
too.  I'm comparing it with a slice from a home-baked loaf or a regular
supermarket loaf, not the oversized Branola.  

Priscilla
Alice Faber - 18 Jan 2004 03:02 GMT
> > > I'm trying
> > > my first loaf of low-carb bread (Arnold Multi Grain), and a tuna/avocado
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> too.  I'm comparing it with a slice from a home-baked loaf or a regular
> supermarket loaf, not the oversized Branola.  

Before mass-market reduced carb breads came out, I used to occasionally
buy Arnold 100% Stoneground Whole Wheat. I think it's roughly the same
size also.

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kc - 16 Jan 2004 23:56 GMT
> Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
> muffin half.  *sigh*

try to find a whole wheat english muffin and see if that will work for you.
it isn't "low carb", but the carbs take longer to be converted to sugar, so
it won't give you the same "glycemic spike" you'd get with a white-bread
muffin.

or that's the theory behind Southbeach, anyway.  i usually have a slice or
two of whole grain bread per day (not both at once), with no noticeable
effect on my blood sugar (no carb cravings or energy spike).

-kelly
southbeach since 9/03
(210/170/150)  with a two week "cheat" over the holidays.
Jean B. - 17 Jan 2004 01:11 GMT
> > Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> > muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
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> southbeach since 9/03
> (210/170/150)  with a two week "cheat" over the holidays.

If you go the whole wheat route, TJ's are the best I could find
around here.  I MAY have seen LC English Muffins at Stop & Shop
but, if so, was apparently not impressed enough to buy them.  I'll
try to remember to look again tomorrow.  I did buy LC bagels
recently, and they are languishing in the fereezer.
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Garypa - 17 Jan 2004 04:16 GMT
I've used Atkins bagels to make Eggs Benedict (my favorite) and made the Atkins
hollandaise sauce from his cookbook--they are just as good this way as with
English muffins.
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 15:42 GMT
> > > Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> > > muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
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> try to remember to look again tomorrow.  I did buy LC bagels
> recently, and they are languishing in the fereezer.

Thanks.  I need to hit T. Joe's next week anyway.

Priscilla
Barb2 - 17 Jan 2004 16:11 GMT
> If you go the whole wheat route, TJ's are the best I could find around
>  here.  I MAY have seen LC English Muffins at Stop & Shop but, if
> so, was apparently not impressed enough to buy them.  I'll try to
> remember to look again tomorrow.  I did buy LC bagels recently, and
>  they are languishing in the fereezer.

Stop & Shop here has Country Kitchen LC bread, bagels and muffins, but
I've noticed new LC stuff popping up there almost weekly.  I just got an
Arnold's LC bread there this week.

Barb
Jean B. - 17 Jan 2004 17:45 GMT
>  > If you go the whole wheat route, TJ's are the best I could find around
>  >  here.  I MAY have seen LC English Muffins at Stop & Shop but, if
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>
> Barb

And my S&S had Atkins breads on sale this week.  Got one for the
freezer.  I think I will use half that and half "lite" bread for
bread pudding.  Yes, there has been a huge increase in LC
products, including baked goods.  And now I see, for better or for
worse, some Atkins products are being integrated in with the
"normal" products.  They also have a new LC section in what was a
seasonal area.
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martymkm@webtv.net - 17 Jan 2004 21:42 GMT
Try GNC, they have them I believe.
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 22:37 GMT
> Try GNC, they have them I believe.

What brand are they?

Priscilla
martymkm@webtv.net - 18 Jan 2004 02:16 GMT
I don't recall the brand name. They keep them in the "back" in a freezer
so you have to ask for them. They also have LC bread and bagels, and
yummy mini LC NY cheese cakes.
Priscilla Ballou - 18 Jan 2004 03:21 GMT
> I don't recall the brand name. They keep them in the "back" in a freezer
> so you have to ask for them. They also have LC bread and bagels, and
> yummy mini LC NY cheese cakes.

Cool.  I'll have to check them out.  Thanks!

Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 15:41 GMT
> > Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> > muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
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> it won't give you the same "glycemic spike" you'd get with a white-bread
> muffin.

Good idea.  I eat all WW bread in small quantities, and it doesn't spike
me.

Priscilla
jamie - 17 Jan 2004 17:40 GMT
> Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
> muffin half.  *sigh*

Atkins' "bagels" are closer to hamburger buns in texture than bagels,
they might do as substitute English muffins.

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Alice Faber - 17 Jan 2004 18:24 GMT
> > Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> > muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
> > muffin half.  *sigh*
>
> Atkins' "bagels" are closer to hamburger buns in texture than bagels,
> they might do as substitute English muffins.

Depending on how many carbs you allow yourself, Thomas oat-bran English
muffins (somewhat higher in fiber than the normal ones) might do,
especially if you're using one half at a time, for eggs benedict.

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PJx - 17 Jan 2004 18:32 GMT
>> > Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
>> > muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
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>muffins (somewhat higher in fiber than the normal ones) might do,
>especially if you're using one half at a time, for eggs benedict.

Umm.  Do you have a favorite eggs benedict recipe?
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 18:44 GMT
> > > Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> > > muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> muffins (somewhat higher in fiber than the normal ones) might do,
> especially if you're using one half at a time, for eggs benedict.

Now that's an idea to investigate, too.  I'll have to look at the net
carb numbers for the oat bran and whole wheat ones.  

Thanks.

Priscilla
Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 18:43 GMT
> > Does anyone know of a low-carb English muffin?  I've been missing english
> > muffins lately and dreaming of eggs benedict on a genuine chewy eng.
> > muffin half.  *sigh*
>
> Atkins' "bagels" are closer to hamburger buns in texture than bagels,
> they might do as substitute English muffins.

Neither bagels nor hamburger buns resemble English muffins.  I don't
want a bread-like starch.  I have that.  I want an ENGLISH MUFFIN.

Priscilla
Jean B. - 17 Jan 2004 18:55 GMT
> Neither bagels nor hamburger buns resemble English muffins.  I don't
> want a bread-like starch.  I have that.  I want an ENGLISH MUFFIN.

Hmmm.  I wonder if a LC English muffin would be enough like a
normal one to even qualify?  Maybe not.  

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Priscilla Ballou - 17 Jan 2004 19:50 GMT
> > Neither bagels nor hamburger buns resemble English muffins.  I don't
> > want a bread-like starch.  I have that.  I want an ENGLISH MUFFIN.
> >
> Hmmm.  I wonder if a LC English muffin would be enough like a
> normal one to even qualify?  Maybe not.

Hard to know without trying.  I had a sandwich on toasted low-carb bread
at lunch, and it seemed very breadlike.  ;-)

Priscilla
 
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