Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004
graham crackers
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Jean B. - 18 Jan 2004 14:02 GMT Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.)
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Jim Marnott - 18 Jan 2004 14:38 GMT > Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft > Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make > LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really > worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of > them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.) Great idea. I've been advocating writing to all your favorite food manufacturer's and restaurants and supermarkets etc. to ask them to make, cook and stock low carb foods. You know what they say, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. The more we ask, complain, request, beg and bother ... the better chance we will have of getting what we want.
So, get out there and email your favorite places and ask them to get on the bandwagon. I believe Preesi has a list of some of the major food manufacturers and it can't be all that hard to google search for your local supermarkets and restaurants.
The louder we are, the sooner we'll all get what we want.
NOTE: This is particularly important in Canada, where retailers and grocers and restaurants still haven't really been getting into low-carb at all.
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ndnb - 19 Jan 2004 03:19 GMT This is a great idea for Splenda as well. I know not everyone uses it but alot of people do and it would be really nice not to have to carry my own with me all the time and instead, when I sit down at a restaurant and order an iced tea that I can reach for a Splenda that's on the table! :)
> > Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft > > Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > Atkins since 22 May '03 > Gym since 1 sept '03 Jean B. - 19 Jan 2004 13:08 GMT > This is a great idea for Splenda as well. I know not everyone uses it but > alot of people do and it would be really nice not to have to carry my own > with me all the time and instead, when I sit down at a restaurant and order > an iced tea that I can reach for a Splenda that's on the table! :) It is rather surprising that more places don't offer Splenda. I try to carry my own with me, and the little packets end up getting rather ratty. Then I weed them out of my pocket after carrying them for a while, which, of course, means immediately thereafter I wish I had them.
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Lee B. - 19 Jan 2004 13:25 GMT I wonder if restaurants etc have some sort of agreement with the Equal etc distributors (like most only serve either Pepsi or Coke, but not both). For carrying the packets, I wonder if you could get some small zip lock bags (like some medicines and jewelry come in) and store them in that for protection.
Lee
> It is rather surprising that more places don't offer Splenda. I > try to carry my own with me, and the little packets end up getting > rather ratty. Then I weed them out of my pocket after carrying > them for a while, which, of course, means immediately thereafter I > wish I had them. Jean B. - 19 Jan 2004 13:36 GMT > I wonder if restaurants etc have some sort of agreement with the Equal > etc distributors (like most only serve either Pepsi or Coke, but not [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Lee Hmmmm. So obvious an idea. I wonder why *I* never thought of that. Now where did I put those tiny bags?... Thanks!
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emkay - 19 Jan 2004 14:43 GMT >> For carrying the packets, I wonder if you could get some small >> zip lock bags (like some medicines and jewelry come in) and store them [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Hmmmm. So obvious an idea. I wonder why *I* never thought of >that. Now where did I put those tiny bags?... Thanks! Or you could get the Splenda tablets from Australia. Tiny, convenient, easier to carry around, and fewer carbs than the packets.
Em
jamie - 20 Jan 2004 07:11 GMT >> . For carrying the packets, I wonder if you could get some small >> zip lock bags (like some medicines and jewelry come in) and store them >> in that for protection. > > Hmmmm. So obvious an idea. I wonder why *I* never thought of > that. Now where did I put those tiny bags?... Thanks! I keep a ziplock baggie of Splenda packets in the glove compartment. If you want tiny ziplocks, Walmart has them on the rack with pill-keepers and medicine droppers. Craft stores sell them in larger quantities.
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Jean B. - 20 Jan 2004 16:17 GMT > I keep a ziplock baggie of Splenda packets in the glove compartment. > If you want tiny ziplocks, Walmart has them on the rack with pill-keepers > and medicine droppers. Craft stores sell them in larger quantities. With this jog to my memory, I found my moderately small ones and got them out. They may remind me to look for the really small ones that I think I have here. Somewhere.
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Kalish - 20 Jan 2004 00:15 GMT >try to carry my own with me, and the little packets end up getting >rather ratty. Then I weed them out of my pocket after carrying >them for a while, which, of course, means immediately thereafter I >wish I had them. I got a free sample of NutraSweet (Natrasweet? whatever) a few years ago and they included a convenient little "wallet" thingie for carrying around sweetener packets. I think I've seen them in various mailorder catalogs. I suspect the packets would still get ratty in the baggie - you need something with a little more structure to it. If I see anything, I'll post it. Kalish
Jean B. - 20 Jan 2004 00:36 GMT > I got a free sample of NutraSweet (Natrasweet? whatever) a few years > ago and they included a convenient little "wallet" thingie for > carrying around sweetener packets. I think I've seen them in various > mailorder catalogs. I suspect the packets would still get ratty in > the baggie - you need something with a little more structure to it. > If I see anything, I'll post it. Kalish Thanks! In the meantime, thank you for reminding me to go look for those tiny plastic bags. Maybe I will remember after I read the four remaining messages. :-)
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jamie - 20 Jan 2004 07:13 GMT > This is a great idea for Splenda as well. I know not everyone uses it but > alot of people do and it would be really nice not to have to carry my own > with me all the time and instead, when I sit down at a restaurant and order > an iced tea that I can reach for a Splenda that's on the table! :) I've gotten a few restaurants to order Splenda by giving the manager a couple of packets to sample.
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Frank Lynch - 19 Jan 2004 14:11 GMT >> Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft >> Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >grocers and restaurants still haven't really been getting into low-carb >at all. Don't underestimate the power of money: our purchases will speak louder than emails.
Brand managers are constantly reading their monthly Nielsen reports (on grocery sales, not television ratings in this case) and will be able to see what's happening.
So buy, get what you want, and spare yourself the effort of emialing.
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emkay - 18 Jan 2004 15:28 GMT >Last night I had a smei-epiphany. I decided to write to Kraft >Foods (Nabisco is part of the conglomerate) to prod them to make >LC graham crackers. Don't you think those would be really >worthwhile and would garner a nice profit? (I was thinking of >them as I made my ginger cheesecakes--still untasted.) Most commercial cookie & cracker-type products tend to have a lot of partially-hydrogenated oils (trans fats). At least, those made by big Nabisco-type companies do, anyway. I'd imagine that even if they made an LC graham cracker, it would have them.
Em
Jean B. - 18 Jan 2004 17:44 GMT emkay wrote:
> Most commercial cookie & cracker-type products tend to have a lot of > partially-hydrogenated oils (trans fats). At least, those made by big > Nabisco-type companies do, anyway. I'd imagine that even if they made an > LC graham cracker, it would have them. For some odd reason, I tend to overlook that when it comes to graham crackers. Maybe it's because I only use them for certain things, so I don't consume a lot of them. OTOH hand, I REALLY want them for those things.
BTW, I did look at the various HFS versions of graham crackers, in the hope that at least one would be relatively LC. No such luck, even with the ?oat bran? one, and there were MANY versions.
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emkay - 18 Jan 2004 18:05 GMT >emkay wrote: >> Most commercial cookie & cracker-type products tend to have a lot of [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >the hope that at least one would be relatively LC. No such luck, >even with the ?oat bran? one, and there were MANY versions. I was wondering if perhaps Nature's Flavors had a graham-flavored concentrate (not syrup). They have zillions of concentrate flavors. No graham, unfortunately, but I did notice something new there: their "low carb vanilla sweet base" (made from liquid splenda) has been replaced with a new product: "Low Carb Sweet Drops". This new one is made with acesulfame K rather than sucralose. I guess the splenda folks *did* make them stop selling it! (The new one has the same 1 cup -to - 32 cups sweetness ratio as the old one.)
Em
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