With all this talk lately about saturated fat, I have a question.
Is the purported danger from eating too much saturated fat, that it
could raise the LDL in my blood, and then its that higher LDL (or ratio
of LDL to HDL) that gives me a higher risk of heart disease?
Essentially, what I'm asking is, if I do not limit my intake of
saturated fat, but consistently have excellent blood cholesterol
numbers, am I at any greater risk of heart disease than the person who
eats very little saturated fat -- and has the same blood cholesterol
numbers as I do?

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Susan - 19 Jan 2004 18:05 GMT
>Is the purported danger from eating too much saturated fat, that it
>could raise the LDL in my blood, and then its that higher LDL (or ratio
>of LDL to HDL) that gives me a higher risk of heart disease?
Theoretically, but all the studies finding correlation of CVD and sat fat
combined saturated fat with carbs. Eating low carb/high SF actually raises HDL
and, sometimes, LDL, but ratios usually improve dramatically. Then there's the
issue of oxidation of LDL; unoxidized LDL doesn't cause arterial plaque, and
without glycation (due to blood glucose) it's not going to oxidize. Then
there's the issue of LDL particle size; low carbing tends to promote larger,
fluffier LDL particles, not the damagine VLDL.
>Essentially, what I'm asking is, if I do not limit my intake of
>saturated fat, but consistently have excellent blood cholesterol
>numbers, am I at any greater risk of heart disease than the person who
>eats very little saturated fat -- and has the same blood cholesterol
>numbers as I do?
No. Especially if by low carbing you've dramatically lowered your TGLs, which
are a completely independent risk factor that appears, according to research,
to be a better predictor of CVD.
Susan
Upgrade-itis - 19 Jan 2004 19:15 GMT
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Great answer Susan. The only thing I can add is a reference to a link
posted the other day which gives the reason why sat fat under LC
doesn't inflate LDL and VLDL levels....
http://www.redflagsweekly.com/kendrick/2003_nov22P.html
Steven.
Jenny - 19 Jan 2004 21:15 GMT
One half of all people with fatal first time heart attacks have normal
cholesterol readings. They aren't much use.
However, as described in my article at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/risk.htm your overal blood sugar
level as measured by the hba1c test IS a very good index of heart attack
risk. It goes down when you decrease your carb intake. Read the medical
research references at the bottom of the page for more insight.
Some studies I've seen lately link the protein fraction of triglycerides to
damage, but it is important to realize that triglycerides rise in response
to CARB intake, not dietary fat. Glycation--the bonding of sugar to lipid
molecules and proteins also causes clogged arteries. Again, it is the excess
glucose that is causing the problem, not the fat molecules themselves.
-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!
Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/
Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm
> With all this talk lately about saturated fat, I have a question.
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> Atkins since 22 May '03
> Gym since 1 sept '03
Ignoramus18897 - 20 Jan 2004 03:57 GMT
> With all this talk lately about saturated fat, I have a question.
>
> Is the purported danger from eating too much saturated fat, that it
> could raise the LDL in my blood, and then its that higher LDL (or ratio
> of LDL to HDL) that gives me a higher risk of heart disease?
That, and also there is some evidence, of average quality
(epidemiological and on lab animals), that just having too much sat
fat in diet promoted cancer.
> Essentially, what I'm asking is, if I do not limit my intake of
> saturated fat, but consistently have excellent blood cholesterol
> numbers, am I at any greater risk of heart disease than the person who
> eats very little saturated fat -- and has the same blood cholesterol
> numbers as I do?
If you have excellent cholesterol numbers, and exercise, I personally
would not worry too much as long I was not truly pigging out on it. Be
a little conservative here.
i
223/175/180
who eats sat fat in reasonable quantities