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jpatti - 19 Jan 2004 14:19 GMT
I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.

Go to your fridge.  Take out eight sticks of butter and look at them.
That is 2 lbs of fat.  That is what is *off* your body when you lose
*only* two pounds.

Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
sticks of butter.
JC Der Koenig - 19 Jan 2004 14:29 GMT
> I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
> complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
> sticks of butter.

When you need to lose 250, it's only 2. Are you really that stupid?
Luna - 19 Jan 2004 16:48 GMT
> > I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
> > complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.
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>
> When you need to lose 250, it's only 2. Are you really that stupid?

Well, the latest person on here complaining about losing "only two pounds"
(in two weeks, I'll add) wants to lose 10, and from her stats she's at a
healthy weight already.

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JC Der Koenig - 19 Jan 2004 17:08 GMT
> > > I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
> > > complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.
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> (in two weeks, I'll add) wants to lose 10, and from her stats she's at a
> healthy weight already.

Dumbass was "thinking" about the whole notion though.
norsk - 19 Jan 2004 17:14 GMT
> > I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
> > complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> When you need to lose 250, it's only 2. Are you really that stupid?

I think the point was for those who complain they only lost 2 lbs to
visualize what they really lost. As much as you enjoy being insulting...I
think you might have missed your mark here.

Norsk
JC Der Koenig - 19 Jan 2004 17:18 GMT
> > > I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
> > > complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.
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>
> Norsk

It's possible.

Maybe I need to practice more.
Cubit - 19 Jan 2004 15:17 GMT
> I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
> complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
> sticks of butter.

Yes Yes

LC Dieting often produces weight loss that is too fast.  I worry that it
could make it easier to regain that quickly lost weight.  A slow but steady
2 pounds is great.  It just requires some patience.
dot - 19 Jan 2004 15:25 GMT
The problem for me is that the book ( I'm talking South Beach Diet here)
*promises* that if you follow his plan you will lose 8-13 lbs. in the first
two weeks.  He even mentions that exercise is not essential but of course
always a good idea.  He even includes in the book a day by day menu plan.  I
wanted to be a purest and follow the plan verbatim so as not to make any
errors in food consumption.  I've only lost 2 or so pounds.  A person who is
doing everything the book says and is *promised* something feels cheated and
lied to when it doesn't happen for them.  Losing weight can be an emotional
thing and when you do lose it gives you the incentive to keep going.  I
think the book should have explained in greater detail what types of people
will benefit the most from this diet and who will not.  Since starting this
diet I have learned sooooooooooo much more from this newsgroup and other
sources.  I FEEL CHEATED!  However, and I continuing on the low carb thing
and giving it more time.  Time will tell.
dot

I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.

Go to your fridge.  Take out eight sticks of butter and look at them.
That is 2 lbs of fat.  That is what is *off* your body when you lose
*only* two pounds.

Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
sticks of butter.
JC Der Koenig - 19 Jan 2004 21:13 GMT
Unless you were already dehydrated, you should have lost at least 5 pounds
by now, at a minimum. Something is most definitely wrong.

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> The problem for me is that the book ( I'm talking South Beach Diet here)
> *promises* that if you follow his plan you will lose 8-13 lbs. in the first
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> Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
> sticks of butter.
Jenny - 19 Jan 2004 21:31 GMT
Dot,

The folks who write diet books never tell the truth about their diets,
because no one is going to buy a book that says, "This diet will let you
lose 1/2 a pound a week. If you're lucky!"

But after an initial weight loss that is partly fat, partly water, and
partly having less in your gut when you weigh yourself, most people can
expect to lose about 1% of their body weight a month. In order for a drug to
be certified as providing weight loss, it only has to let people lose about
6 lbs a year!  And the stats for most diets show that the median weight loss
for most people is about 10 lbs a year.

But diet books are about huge profits, not truth.  Occasionally there are
bits of truth in these books, but you'll learn a whole lot more from other
successful dieters than you will from any book--because the publishing
houses won't touch books that really tell the truth.
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> The problem for me is that the book ( I'm talking South Beach Diet here)
> *promises* that if you follow his plan you will lose 8-13 lbs. in the first
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
> sticks of butter.
dot - 20 Jan 2004 03:17 GMT
Thanks for taking the time to respond Jenny.
I understand.  Disappointed... but I understand and will continue.
dot

Dot,

The folks who write diet books never tell the truth about their diets,
because no one is going to buy a book that says, "This diet will let you
lose 1/2 a pound a week. If you're lucky!"

But after an initial weight loss that is partly fat, partly water, and
partly having less in your gut when you weigh yourself, most people can
expect to lose about 1% of their body weight a month. In order for a drug to
be certified as providing weight loss, it only has to let people lose about
6 lbs a year!  And the stats for most diets show that the median weight loss
for most people is about 10 lbs a year.

But diet books are about huge profits, not truth.  Occasionally there are
bits of truth in these books, but you'll learn a whole lot more from other
successful dieters than you will from any book--because the publishing
houses won't touch books that really tell the truth.
-- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my  email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit  http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

> The problem for me is that the book ( I'm talking South Beach Diet here)
> *promises* that if you follow his plan you will lose 8-13 lbs. in the
first
> two weeks.  He even mentions that exercise is not essential but of course
> always a good idea.  He even includes in the book a day by day menu plan.I
> wanted to be a purest and follow the plan verbatim so as not to make any
> errors in food consumption.  I've only lost 2 or so pounds.  A person who
is
> doing everything the book says and is *promised* something feels cheated
and
> lied to when it doesn't happen for them.  Losing weight can be an
emotional
> thing and when you do lose it gives you the incentive to keep going.  I
> think the book should have explained in greater detail what types of
people
> will benefit the most from this diet and who will not.  Since starting
this
> diet I have learned sooooooooooo much more from this newsgroup and other
> sources.  I FEEL CHEATED!  However, and I continuing on the low carb thing
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
> sticks of butter.
Diane Mancino - 19 Jan 2004 15:31 GMT
good visual. I have many sticks to get rid of.

anyone remember when Oprah wheeled out 50 lbs of beef fat when she had lost
that much?  how about carrying bags of groceries up the stairs and thinking
this is how much extra I am carrying around in fat.

I carried a 50 lb box to a customer's door and thought I hate this.....but I
do it every minute of my life at this weight

Diane

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> I was thinking the other day about the whole notion of folks
> complaining about losing *only* two pounds in some period of time.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Seems like a *lot* of fat loss to me.  I can't see an *only* in eight
> sticks of butter.
DigitalVinyl - 19 Jan 2004 17:48 GMT
Depends upon yor goal.  I have never had much will power. FOr that
reason I didn't try diets. Diets always stressed lots of fruit and
vegetables, which I ate less of (typical guy diet). Diets usually
talked about 1 lb a week in loss. For someone 150 lbs overweight, that
means staying on a strict diet for 3 years. For the typical low-fat,
low calorie, rabbit-food diets that looked like planned failure to me.

I've spent the last fifteen years consciously expanding my tastes.
When I was 18 I ate hamburgers, fries, chili, tacos, ham, sausage,
chicken, corn, tuna fish, pasta(not a favorite), and deli sandwiches-
that's about it.  Over the years I forced myself to experiment with
different and better foods. Over time I came to see salad as good
lunch (Although I like a large variety in my salad). I now eat fresh
fish, shellfish, sushi, and lots of different ethnic dishes. I
experiment with cooking often.  Fresh veggies dipped in ranch or a
vegetable dip are a favorite at parties. I'm one of the least picky
eaters I know.

Unfortunately also a chocoholic and a eat-what-i-see person.

DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
jpatti - 20 Jan 2004 01:19 GMT
> Depends upon yor goal.  I have never had much will power. FOr that
> reason I didn't try diets. Diets always stressed lots of fruit and
> vegetables, which I ate less of (typical guy diet). Diets usually
> talked about 1 lb a week in loss. For someone 150 lbs overweight, that
> means staying on a strict diet for 3 years. For the typical low-fat,
> low calorie, rabbit-food diets that looked like planned failure to me.

DV, I understand your point.  

On the other hand... taking (X amount of time) to get to goal doesn't
mean you're at your start weight that entire time.  Every day of that
time, you're in better shape than you were when you began, right?

And on the other, other hand, I'm planning to eat low-carb for the
rest of my life, so 3 years is a drop-in-the-bucket.

Maybe that's why I find the notion of 8 sticks of butter exciting.
Since I *do* plan to stay on this for life, that's 8 sticks of butter
gone *forever*.

That's 2 lbs I *never* have to carry around ever again... unless I get
some weird desire to carry butter in my pockets.  ;)
 
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