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Arnold low carb bread - this is scary!

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Kalish - 20 Jan 2004 01:13 GMT
Ok, I'm not going to explain how or why so don't ask, but I've had two
unopened loaves of Arnold lowcarb multigrain bread sitting on my shelf
since...are you ready...the middle of December.  The "sell-by" date
was Dec. 21, 03.  I figured they must be pretty ripe by now, probably
too far gone even for the birds, so I approached them with trepidation
(I didn't want anything jumping out at me...).  I looked them over -
hmmm...no green stuff...I opened them up....I separated some of the
slices...hmmm...no green stuff...no mold...not a spec.  And it still
had the same cellulose sponge texture it has when it's fresh - well,
newly bought.  WHAT'S UP WITH THAT????  Is this stuff food or some
weird alien life form?????  I didn't taste it, it was tossed over the
deck for the birds and tree rats (squirrels) - I checked a few hours
later and didn't see any furry corpses so...I guess it was ok.  How
can this be???  Are they using embalming fluids in it or what????
Kalish
kahout - 20 Jan 2004 02:17 GMT
You're going to have some trim tree rats!

> Ok, I'm not going to explain how or why so don't ask, but I've had two
> unopened loaves of Arnold lowcarb multigrain bread sitting on my shelf
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> can this be???  Are they using embalming fluids in it or what????
> Kalish
Preesi - 20 Jan 2004 02:36 GMT
 I looked them over -
> hmmm...no green stuff...I opened them up....I separated some of the
> slices...hmmm...no green stuff...no mold...not a spec.  And it still
> had the same cellulose sponge texture it has when it's fresh - well,
> newly bought.  WHAT'S UP WITH THAT????

Its wintertime, the air in the house is very dry and actually not as warm as
it is
in summer so thats less condensation in the loaves to be conducive to the
warm moist environment that molds need to grow. Also, remember YEAST
is a MOLD and just like yeast needs carbs to grow molds do too! Less carbs
less mold..
Kalish - 20 Jan 2004 12:46 GMT
>Its wintertime, the air in the house is very dry and actually not as warm as
>it is >in summer so thats less condensation in the loaves to be conducive to the
>warm moist environment that molds need to grow. Also, remember YEAST
>is a MOLD and just like yeast needs carbs to grow molds do too! Less carbs
>less mold..

We don't eat a lot of bread in my house to begin with so I'm very
familiar with bread getting moldy - regular store-bought bread goes
moldy all the time (in my house), winter or summer.  Molds will grow
on ANYTHING remotely organic - haven't you ever seen mold on the walls
in a damp cellar?  Didn't need no carbs to grow there!     Kalish
Priscilla Ballou - 20 Jan 2004 04:22 GMT
> Ok, I'm not going to explain how or why so don't ask, but I've had two
> unopened loaves of Arnold lowcarb multigrain bread sitting on my shelf
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> later and didn't see any furry corpses so...I guess it was ok.  How
> can this be???  Are they using embalming fluids in it or what????

I find most commercial bread is like that.  Lasts forever.  There are so
many preservatives that it takes forever to mold.  My homebaked stuff
generally starts molding after a week or so.

I just had two slices of the Arnold low-carb multigrain as toast, and I
think it's pretty darned good for a net 6 grams of carb per slice.  

Priscilla
Frank Lynch - 20 Jan 2004 14:43 GMT
>I find most commercial bread is like that.  Lasts forever.  There are so
>many preservatives that it takes forever to mold.  My homebaked stuff
>generally starts molding after a week or so.
>
>I just had two slices of the Arnold low-carb multigrain as toast, and I
>think it's pretty darned good for a net 6 grams of carb per slice.  

I have to agree w/ Kalish, the Arnold Lo Carb brad has an
astonishingly long shelf life. Even for winter.

I also agree with you, though, it's texture is much better than
others. It still tears funny, though.

Frank Lynch
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Cubit - 20 Jan 2004 15:19 GMT
> Ok, I'm not going to explain how or why so don't ask, but I've had two
> unopened loaves of Arnold lowcarb multigrain bread sitting on my shelf
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> can this be???  Are they using embalming fluids in it or what????
> Kalish

I kept bread in the refrigerator.  It takes months longer for mold to form.
PJx - 20 Jan 2004 15:50 GMT
>> Ok, I'm not going to explain how or why so don't ask, but I've had two
>> unopened loaves of Arnold lowcarb multigrain bread sitting on my shelf
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>I kept bread in the refrigerator.  It takes months longer for mold to form.

And I keep mine in the freezer.   Mold never forms.
PJ
Kalish - 20 Jan 2004 16:00 GMT
>>I kept bread in the refrigerator.  It takes months longer for mold to form.
>>
> And I keep mine in the freezer.   Mold never forms.
>PJ

Neither is relevant to my point - I didn't refrigerate or freeze these
loaves - they were just on my counter unopened in the kitchen for
almost 6 weeks.  It's not natural, is all I can say.
PJx - 20 Jan 2004 17:05 GMT
>>>I kept bread in the refrigerator.  It takes months longer for mold to form.
>>>
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>loaves - they were just on my counter unopened in the kitchen for
>almost 6 weeks.  It's not natural, is all I can say.

Frankly, I agree.  I trust most, the food products that turn green
the fastest.
PJ
Garypa - 20 Jan 2004 18:38 GMT
I noticed the same indefinite preservation with the Arnold bread. Up until now
it was my favorite, but I recently found Rudi's (Rudy?) Organic, which has 4
net carbs and is delicious! Not spongey at all and great flavor.
 
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