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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Newbie: Measuring Salad Greens and Veggies?
Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups of salad greens? Does this seem like an awfully small amount to anyone but me? I mean, how many leaves of romaine lettuce can I fit into 2 cups? Can someone please help? Thanks!! Michelle > During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups >of salad greens? Does this seem like an awfully small amount to >anyone but me? I mean, how many leaves of romaine lettuce can I fit >into 2 cups? Can someone please help? Thanks!! > >Michelle It's possible to overthink this stuff. You could eat a wheelbarrow full of it and come out with maybe 5 net carbs. :-) I'd stuff the greens into the cup, or use my method, two handsful. Makes a big plate of greens with net carbs about 3gms. Really, a gram or two or three isn't going to screw up your diet. Susan > x-no-archive: yes > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > Really, a gram or two or three isn't going to screw up your diet. I understand her frustration, though. Anything of that sort should be given in weight, not volume. Frex, if a 'serving' of veggies is a half- cup, does that mean however many okra you can fit in a half-cup? That's just silly. Weighing is so much better. Chakolate  SignatureI have always been delighted at the prospect of a new day, a fresh try, one more start with perhaps a bit of magic waiting somewhere behind the morning. --J. B. Priestley > Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and > veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups > of salad greens? Does this seem like an awfully small amount to > anyone but me? I mean, how many leaves of romaine lettuce can I fit > into 2 cups? Can someone please help? Thanks!! it's better to weigh that kind of stuff than to measure it. >Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups >of salad greens? Does this seem like an awfully small amount to >anyone but me? I mean, how many leaves of romaine lettuce can I fit >into 2 cups? Can someone please help? Thanks!! Weight measure are much easier to deal with. A cup of anything that doesn't pour relatively easily is silly. I buy three romaine hearts in a bag... 340 gms/12 oz According to http://www.nal.usda.gov/fnic/cgi-bin/nut_search.pl 100 gms of romaine lettuce total carbs 3.92 fiber 2.10 NET CARBS 1.82 protein 1.23 fat 0.30 calories 17.00 so that's about 2 gms per entire romaine heart. If you want a lower carb lettuce (but less tasty in my book You could use iceberg (same 100 MG amount) total carbs 2.09 FIber 1.00 NET CARBS 1.09 protein 0.81 fat 0.11 calories 10.00 A half-half mix would be ok. I like mixed greens anyway DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) <<garciagm@comcast.net (GarciaGM) wrote: Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups of salad greens? Does this seem like an awfully small amount to anyone but me? I mean, how many leaves of romaine lettuce can I fit into 2 cups? Can someone please help? Thanks!! >> i bought gladware contiers. they come in 1, 2, & 3 cups. cut up & wash your salad greens. stick them in the container with a paper towel. they will stay fresh for a few days, be ready & measured too **I have gone to find myself, if I should return before I get back, keep me here. witchy >Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Michelle IF you want to follow Atkins, then shred/tear salad greens and stuff in a cup. If you think you can throw 30 years of research out the window(and get fat), then eat your wheel barrow of salad. PJ > IF you want to follow Atkins, then shred/tear salad greens and stuff > in a cup. If you think you can throw 30 years of research out the > window(and get fat), then eat your wheel barrow of salad. > PJ Since I am preparing Atkins food for the whole family. I bought some different lettuces, and also spinich leaves. Then shredded them and bagged them into large baggies, to make it easier. Then my oldest son, he is measuring. He is also using the tablespoon measurement for the dressing. Its his personality I guess. Me, I grab a handful. Might not even be two cups. Then add some exteas like cheese, tomatoes, ham, onion, green pepper. Everyone has their own tastes in my family though. So I also cut other veggies up, bagged them, and then we just get all the baggies out at dinner to make a salad. I just hope that I am not losing nutrient content, when cutting the veggies up and bagging them like that? > IF you want to follow Atkins, then shred/tear salad greens and stuff >in a cup. If you think you can throw 30 years of research out the >window(and get fat), then eat your wheel barrow of salad. >PJ The big problem is that measuring 'a cup' of things like salad without qualifiers (and Atkins doesn't *GIVE* qualifiers - so you don't know if he means 'stuff as much into the cup as you can' or 'loosely fill' or something in between) is pretty much meaningless. I preferred when I did Induction to buy myself a pair of Kitchen Scales (only cost me around $20 AUS) and using the USDA database figure out how many carbs in 100g weight of each food I wanted to eat. Then I could figure out *exactly* what my carb count per meal and snack was. I knew, because I knew how big a serve I'd weighed out (and it didn't matter if it was tight-packed or loose) of each ingredient. Aramanth Wed, Jan 21, 2004, 3:42pm (EST+15:30) From: manth@ozemail.com.au (Aramanth Dawe) wrote: <snip> I preferred when I did Induction to buy myself a pair of Kitchen Scales (only cost me around $20 AUS) <snip> My scales got knocked off of my kitchen counter and I need to replace them. What brands does everyone recommend? Although I am out of induction since last Sept. I would like to get a nice set since I will be leading this WOE for the rest of my life. Thanks; Marty >Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Michelle Glad you posted. I *may* do induction at some point with my diabetic husband, we are still thinking about it. But the cup of salad greens just sounded like a pitiful serving of veggies. I'd feel very deprived. Cynthia >>Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >>veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >But the cup of salad greens just sounded like a pitiful serving of >veggies. I'd feel very deprived. Cynthia, after the 2-week induction you start increasing carbs and can add them back in. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) >>>Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >>>veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) Yeah, but that 2 weeks sounds like absolute hell! And you only are supposed to add 5 carbs back in a week. (Yep, I've read the book.) At any rate, I don't know if we'll try it real soon, it's really hard to get ANY kind of nice greens or lettuce up here. It's pitiful really how excited I get when I find a NICE bunch of spinach or collards or kale. (I've yet to see a nice bunch of chard and I've been here since September.) (Kale, a staple when I was in CA, is a rare treat up here.) Hell, even getting nice broccoli or cucumbers or bell peppers isn't easy. Or even celery. Western North Dakota is just not getting the prime produce! And even the icky stuff is pretty pricey! I actually doubt Atkins is for me... I get real *plugged* if I don't get my fiber. Veggies aren't enough. But I do think it might be good for my husband. I'd be willing to do induction if it would help him through it. Right now though, I'm working on getting us exercising. Cynthia >>>But the cup of salad greens just sounded like a pitiful serving of >>>veggies. I'd feel very deprived. >> >>Cynthia, after the 2-week induction you start increasing carbs and can >>add them back in. >Yeah, but that 2 weeks sounds like absolute hell! And you only are >supposed to add 5 carbs back in a week. (Yep, I've read the book.) Then you may be right -- Atkins may not be for you. In truth, you'll have to give up *something* if you're going to change your old habits, whether to lose weight or to optimize your health. Me, I had a harder time giving up bagels than cutting back on veggies. But everyone's different. I have to say though, and I'm not being snarky, that if limiting your salad greens to two cups a day for 2 weeks strikes you as "absolute hell," I envy your life! :-) <snip> >I actually doubt Atkins is for me... I get real *plugged* if I don't >get my fiber. Veggies aren't enough. But I do think it might be good >for my husband. I'd be willing to do induction if it would help him >through it. There's other ways to boost fiber. Flax meal is popular, as an occasional hot cereal and/or sprinkled on food. I do that, and I use Metamucil a couple of times a week. I get plenty of fiber. >Right now though, I'm working on getting us exercising. That's a;so a good thing! Good luck. Dawn >>>>But the cup of salad greens just sounded like a pitiful serving of >>>>veggies. I'd feel very deprived. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Then you may be right -- Atkins may not be for you. The later forms of Atkins, where you can eat whole grains and legumes sounds just fine. Much like how I eat now. Technically, I eat plenty of carbs, perhaps between 100-200g. But it's veggies, fruit and whole grain type carbs for the most part. >In truth, you'll have to give up *something* if you're going to change >your old habits, whether to lose weight or to optimize your health. >Me, I had a harder time giving up bagels than cutting back on veggies. >But everyone's different. Bagels are a rare treat. Probably nearly as rare as ice cream. I don't eat much bread. Just occasionally. But I love bulgur and whole wheat couscous! And I'm very fond of brown rice. >I have to say though, and I'm not being snarky, that if limiting your >salad greens to two cups a day for 2 weeks strikes you as "absolute >hell," I envy your life! :-) My husband says he has always eaten veggies, but since I've lived with him, he REALLY eats veggies! <G> ><snip> > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >occasional hot cereal and/or sprinkled on food. I do that, and I use >Metamucil a couple of times a week. I get plenty of fiber. Never been huge on hot cereals, though there is a 7-grain one I have that I sometimes like. I DO like to put a tablespoon or so of flax seeds in smoothies. Great fiber, good oils, can't hardly be beat. Metamucil or in my case, Wal-Mart's equivalent only works so-so for me. My husband bought me a box of Kashi Good Friends Cereal for Christmas. Since I've been eating that again, I do better. >>Right now though, I'm working on getting us exercising. > >That's a;so a good thing! Yeah, and easier for me than him. Especially since he rotates shift work, days, graveyard and swing. I just worry a lot about him being diabetic and needing so many meds for everything. He takes them for the blood sugar control, high blood pressure, cholesterol, you name it. He's been doing a bit better, I pretty well nixed his toast habit in the mornings. Now he gets eggs and veggies or sometimes meat and veggies. Toast is an occasional treat now, instead of a 2 slice a day habit. I keep thinking that he might lose some more weight on Atkins and get encouraged, and if I have to do it too, I guess I will. But I'm not big on meats and meat fats... and don't really even like to overdress salads. My weakness is chips. God I love crunchy salty things! But I haven't eaten any for ages. Other than some salted cashews the other night in a moment of weakness. Sometimes, I will have some light microwave popcorn. Cynthia >>>>Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >>>>veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] >Yeah, but that 2 weeks sounds like absolute hell! And you only are >supposed to add 5 carbs back in a week. (Yep, I've read the book.) I'm finishing up day 11(6 lbs lost) and thought I'd cave before now. I drank a lot of colas, sweetened iced tea, lemonade, fruit juices, milk. Converting to just water was one of the toughest temptations. After the 5th day my desire for colas, etc faded. I don't even think about it now. Im pretty impressed with that change. >At any rate, I don't know if we'll try it real soon, it's really hard >to get ANY kind of nice greens or lettuce up here. It's pitiful really >how excited I get when I find a NICE bunch of spinach or collards or >kale. (I've yet to see a nice bunch of chard and I've been here since >September.) (Kale, a staple when I was in CA, is a rare treat up >here.) You could grow them. Greens are easy as pie to grow. A nice sunny window, especially like a bay window can be turned into a green leaf garden for winter. >Hell, even getting nice broccoli or cucumbers or bell peppers isn't >easy. Or even celery. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >for my husband. I'd be willing to do induction if it would help him >through it. The book mentioned physillum(sp?) husks. This was a purer source of fiber and with a lot of water may help you get past that problem. I think atkins works better the more weight you have to lose. Also important if you show signs of carb-addiction. >Right now though, I'm working on getting us exercising. > >Cynthia DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) >>Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >>veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > >Cynthia Well, it is really 3 cups NOT 1 cup. atkins phase 1 Induction http://atkinscenter.com/howto/phase1.html >On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:11:07 -0600, Cynthia Perry >>But the cup of salad greens just sounded like a pitiful serving of >>veggies. I'd feel very deprived. Self-imposed deprivation sometimes can be a very good thing. > Well, it is really 3 cups NOT 1 cup. And it is only for two weeks. >>On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 19:11:07 -0600, Cynthia Perry >>>But the cup of salad greens just sounded like a pitiful serving of >>>veggies. I'd feel very deprived. >> >Self-imposed deprivation sometimes can be a very good thing. I agree, when it comes to depriving myself of things like Doritos... which I haven't had in about 6 months. And no longer wish to have. So I don't actually feel deprived. When it comes to depriving myself of good quality veggies, I tend to disagree. It's sort of like saying depriving myself of water is good... NOT! Or depriving myself of exercise... again, NOT. >> Well, it is really 3 cups NOT 1 cup. >> >And it is only for two weeks. Yes, I expect I could get through it if I had to. I doubt I'd enjoy it though. Cynthia >When it comes to depriving myself of good quality veggies, I tend to >disagree. It's sort of like saying depriving myself of water is >good... NOT! Or depriving myself of exercise... again, NOT. Well, like I said, it's only for two weeks. >Yes, I expect I could get through it if I had to. I doubt I'd enjoy it >though. It does not sound like the low-carb approach is really for you. Maybe you should try the 2PD or the 2FD. >>>Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >>>veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >atkins phase 1 Induction >http://atkinscenter.com/howto/phase1.html Even so. Not much for veggies. Especially when it's greens. Cynthia >>>>Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >>>>veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > >Cynthia It is adequate. Especially since it comes from 30 years of research by true experts using scientific methods..... However, each of us is entitled to come up with our own diet. Just don't call it Atkins. PJ >>Can anyone help me figure out how to measure my salad greens and >>veggies? During Induction, are we talking about 2 loosely packed cups [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > But the cup of salad greens just sounded like a pitiful serving of > veggies. I'd feel very deprived. Two cups of greens is actually quite a plateful! Signaturejmk in NC |
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