This morning I had my 4-week follow up visit, after being diagnosed as T2
diabetic on December 15th. At the time, my HBA1c was 9. Fasting blood
glucose was 135. She told me to not eat any fast food, follw my low-carb
diet and come back in a month. ( I had slaked off on the carbs and had
gained some weight back over the past year). I'm embarrassed to say this,
but my weight on December 15th had returned to 270.
Well, I went beyond her suggestion. I not only went back to the basics, but
also kept my calories between 1200 and 1500. I ate no processed foods
(other than a Subway low-carb srap two or three times a week for lunch,
which fits perfectly with my plan). Drank only water and weak decaf iced
tea..
Well, this morning I weighed 245. I have lost exactly 25 pounds since
December 15th. But that's not even the best news. Theres more:
I've been testing my BG morning, evening, and before and 2 hrs after each
meal. The doctor told me I can stop testing it; it has been in the
perfectly normal range for the past 3 weeks (averaging between 80 and 95).
She told me to just keep eating the way I have been; no meds for diabetes
for me! In two months I go back to have another HBa1c test.
There's more! My blood pressure on Dec. 15th was 165/88. And this was
while taking 3 BP medcations (Catapres TTS3 transdermal patch, Atenolol and
Maxzide). Well,, this morning my blood pressure was *122/70* Absolutely
Perfect!!!! She immediately told me to stop taking the Maxzide, a
diruretic. I'm off one of my meds! I go back in 2 weeks to make sure the
BP is ok with the new regimen, and she will consider then reducing the
Atenolol dosage also. I'm excited about this because diuretics and beta
blockers both can interfere with weight loss and adversely affect insulin
resistance and metabolism. I may be breaking through to a whole new level
of health this time.
I now have the motivation I've needed for a while to break out of the
doldrums and really keep moving forward with my lc plan. Only my goal is
different now: Instead of a weight goal, it's to enjoy good health without
medications. LC rocks!
I love my new doc; she's relatively young and contemporary in her thinking;
she supports a low-carb way of eating.
p.s. In two months I go back to have my cholesterol and triglycerides
re-tested along with with the HBa1c. Will give an update at that time.

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Marsha - 21 Jan 2004 01:19 GMT
> This morning I had my 4-week follow up visit, after being diagnosed as T2
> diabetic on December 15th. At the time, my HBA1c was 9. Fasting blood
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> p.s. In two months I go back to have my cholesterol and triglycerides
> re-tested along with with the HBa1c. Will give an update at that time.
That's wonderful! Keep it up, man.
Marsha/Ohio
HRHdotp - 21 Jan 2004 01:41 GMT
> This morning I had my 4-week follow up visit, after being diagnosed as T2
> diabetic on December 15th. At the time, my HBA1c was 9. Fasting blood
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> blockers both can interfere with weight loss and adversely affect insulin
> resistance and metabolism. I may be breaking through to a whole new level
> of health this time.
>
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> p.s. In two months I go back to have my cholesterol and triglycerides
> re-tested along with with the HBa1c. Will give an update at that time.
How wonderful for you Peter!! Keep up the good work, I can't wait to hear
what your A1C is!
Priscilla
Saffire - 21 Jan 2004 01:48 GMT
> I now have the motivation I've needed for a while to break out of the
> doldrums and really keep moving forward with my lc plan. Only my goal is
> different now: Instead of a weight goal, it's to enjoy good health without
> medications. LC rocks!
Very impressive progress, Peter, and a great example of what you can do if you
put your mind to it!

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Jeri - 21 Jan 2004 02:33 GMT
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> Well, this morning I weighed 245. I have lost exactly 25 pounds since
> December 15th. But that's not even the best news. Theres more:
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> re-tested along with with the HBa1c. Will give an update at that
> time.
Congrats Peter! You're doing fantastic. :o)
Tara. - 21 Jan 2004 09:03 GMT
Excellent news Peter!!
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> This morning I had my 4-week follow up visit, after being diagnosed as T2
> diabetic on December 15th.
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Witchy Way - 21 Jan 2004 09:13 GMT
that's wonderful news!
**I have gone to find myself, if I should return before I get back, keep
me here.
witchy
Jenny - 21 Jan 2004 14:12 GMT
Peter,
That is WONDERFUL news!
You are fortunate to have such a good doctor, too.
-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!
Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/
Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm
> This morning I had my 4-week follow up visit, after being diagnosed as T2
> diabetic on December 15th. At the time, my HBA1c was 9. Fasting blood
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> Peter
> website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo
Laureen - 21 Jan 2004 17:16 GMT
> This morning I had my 4-week follow up visit, after being diagnosed as T2
> diabetic on December 15th. At the time, my HBA1c was 9. Fasting blood
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> p.s. In two months I go back to have my cholesterol and triglycerides
> re-tested along with with the HBa1c. Will give an update at that time.
{{{{{{{PETER}}}}}}}
I'm so damn proud of you !!! Keep up the good work. Ya did it once and
ya can do it again. Do ya feel my hugs????????
Love, Laureen
Thanks everyone for all the well-wishes.
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ronit - 22 Jan 2004 16:21 GMT
Hi Peter,
Good to hear that you got great results from your tests.
I wonder though, at this point, do you say that you once had diabetes
T2 or do you say you are diabetic but control it through dieting?
In other words, can low carb reverse diabetes?
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| In other words, can low carb reverse diabetes?
Good question.
I'm brand new to diabetes since my diagnosis one month ago, so I don't fully
understand what the implications of everything are. I've read it implied in
previous posts here and in alt.support.diabetes that once you are diabetic,
you have it for life. But I did ask my doctor about "Syndrome X," of which
she is fully familiar and equates with T2. However, she said that my high
hba1c indicates more than Syndrome X - - but that it's possible that if I
can control it with diet only -- and if my fasting BG and hba1c are normal
when I return for my next follow-up, I would be considered by the test
results at that time to be not diabetic.
To me, it's really just a matter of symantics. If it takes a lifetime
low-carb way of eating to keep BG and hba1c normal, I can live with that,
and it doesn't matter if it's just helping the symptoms or if I really will
be considered not diabetic. The bottom line is pretty much the same.
Hopefully there are people who will read this who can anmswer the question
better.

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Jenny - 22 Jan 2004 19:17 GMT
Peter,
As I understand it, people who are not on medications like cortisone usually
don't achieve diabetic-level blood sugars until they have lost a significant
number of beta cells (the cells in the pancreas that secrete insulin). Beta
cells do not appear to regenerate, so once those beta cells are gone, your
capacity for producing insulin goes way, way down. So even losing weight is
not going to reverse your diabetes.
But you can control diabetes through diet by reducing the need for insulin
(via low carbing or the use of drugs that slow carb digestion like Precose)
and by reducing insulin resistance (by exercise and/or drugs like
metformin.) But as soon as you eat foods or adopt a lifesytle that
increases the demand for insulin, you will outpace your remaining pancreas
cells and display diabetic blood sugars again.
There's an ugly death spiral hidden here: high blood sugar is what kills
pancreas cells, so as they start failing, the rising blood sugars that resut
hasten the beta cells' demise. That means that you can't ever get sloppy
without expecting your condition to worsen.
But if you can maintain normal blood sugar levels via diet, it may be
possible to prevent further damage.
I'm heading in year 6 of controlling my diabetes via diet and, lately, some
exercise. My fasting and post meal numbers are still solidly on the
borderline between normal and impaired glucose tolerance and nowhere near
the diagnostic standard for diabetes. Only my glucose tolerance test results
would reveal that I'm fully diabetic.
The big, unanswered question is can I maintain my poor old beat up pancrea
cells at this level indefinitely? Since there are zero studies conducted
where people maintained near-normal blood sugar levels for long periods of
time there is no way to answer this question. Bernstein says "yes." I'm
betting he's right!
--Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!
Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/
Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm
> | Hi Peter,
> |
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> Peter
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| Peter,
|
| As I understand it, people who are not on medications like cortisone
| usually don't achieve diabetic-level blood sugars until they have lost a
| significant number of beta cells (the cells in the pancreas that secrete
| insulin). | http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/
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Thanks for the valuable infor Jenny, it's pretty much what I thought.
The only question I still have remaining is the fact that for the past three
years I have been taking two medications that I've recently learned can
raise blood sugar levels: Atenolol (beta blocker) and Maxzide
(potassium-sparing diuretic). I don't know if the effects on BG of either
of those medications can be reversed if I stop taking them, or if they cause
some type of permanent damage that I'll just have to live with. (I'm still
taking the Atenolol -- which I hope to stop soon -- but am off the Maxzide
now). I have a lot of research to do.

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ronit - 23 Jan 2004 17:42 GMT
Jenny, there's a lot of interesting information in your post. You
might want to add this to your website. I still visit your site for
these special tidbits.
thanks!
> Peter,
>
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> capacity for producing insulin goes way, way down. So even losing weight is
> not going to reverse your diabetes.
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