In an unmoderated group like this there is no practical way to bar offensive
posts or even to bar offensive posters.  This is probably a good thing,
actually, because one person's idea of "offensive" is often another person's
idea of "entertaining," so there would never be a consensus as to who and
what should be barred.

Fortunately most newsreaders have options for blocking posts from specified
people or which contain specified words.  I only skim the group these days
so I'm not sure how long you've been around, but as you'll discover (if you
haven't already), there are certain people (quite a few, actually) who can
be relied on to always post offensive and/or totally irrelevant, ignorant
and useless messages.  Liberal use of killfiles and filters will not only
minimize your irritation; it will also make reading the group a lot quicker.
The wonderful thing about this is that YOU get to decide what you personally
don't want to see, but others who enjoy the posts you don't like will still
get to see them.

I'm with you, though.  I do not like posts which are needlessly negative or
judgmental, so I have all kinds of filters set up.

To the original poster, I'm excited about the new low-carb chips coming,
too.  I've never bought chips very often, but I do enjoy them, so it will be
nice to have a healthier version available.  And yes, despite the criticism
of the low-carb purists, the new chips probably won't be all that bad of a
food choice.  If they are formulated anything like Keto Chips (which I think
are great, but still don't buy too often), it's hard to find much room for
complaint.  The ingredients in Keto Chips are soy protein isolate, soybean
oil, soy protein concentrate, soy fiber, corn meal, soy lecithin and salt.
4g net carbs, 4g fiber, 12g protein.  Hardly "junk."

The nice thing about packaged low-carb foods is that in lowering the carb
content the fiber and protein content generally go way up.  So even though
the original food it's attempting to mimic might have been nutritionally
empty, the resulting low-carb substitute is often a fairly reasonable food
choice, especially for occasional use.

While it's true that some people consume manufactured foods to excess, I
think most people are intelligent enough to use them in moderation to add
variety, convenience and interest to their daily food options.  Whenever a
person gets up in arms vilifying low-carb products across the board, I
suspect it's because they fear their own weakness and wish to have
temptation removed.

Reb

We have a few people inhabiting this newsgroup who are obviously
bipolar, the worst being Mu and JC.  I suggest blocking their posts
with a filter.  If you are using any newsgroup software it will
probably have some kind of filtering function.  If you use Google, not
much to do but roll your eyes and keep scrolling.  Those two idiots
would be better off marrying each other I think.  At least then they
could yell and scream at each other rather than doing it to
unsuspecting people who are just looking for support and information.

Don't ever visit the misc.weights.fitness group for starters. save
that..most newsreaders have a killfile. better idea. try not to be so
easily offended.

and much of that stuff is not, in fact, even low carb. Manufacturers
are lying, caling carbs "no-impact carbs" (like these Atkins crooks
are doing), etc.

What a f.cking shame that Atkins's company is involved in all this
diet deception.

truer words have never been spoken. It is hard to diet when a large
part of what you eat is worthless junk food, as this way ti is hardto
avoid nutrient deficiencies.

At least this is a more or less honest food, real food that is.

Fake candy bars are not real food.

i

But you are overlooking the value of low carb products to those of us who are
here like I am because they are diabetic. In spite of the assumptions often
made all low carb dieters are not here to lose weight.
A low carb chip allows a diabetic to have chips once in a while. Ditto a low
carb cookie. I have never said they were as healthy as a stalk of broccoli but
to someone who has to avoid carbs for medical reasons I think its pretty
arrogant of those people here who insist they have no usefulness to anyone.

Debra

I have to wonder why folks like you and Der Koenig are even posting on
this newsgroup.

In the past few decades there has been a new consciousness of fat,
sugar, fiber etc., and of nutrition in general, something our parents
and grandparents knew nothing about.  There was a big discussion of
cholesterol a few years ago that raised people's awareness of this
issue so at least now people know that too much meat is not a good
thing, they get screened for cholesterol, etc.

Now it's carbohydrates.  Carbs, especially 'complex carbs'  were
always thought to be mostly harmless except for the calories.

The idea that carbs should be counted, and that you can lose weight
(and maybe clear up some other problems) by controlling carbohydrate
intake, is a good one.  It certainly doesn't mean that fat,
cholesterol, etc don't matter

I don't think that's true.  It might seem like it to you, though.  

Well I'll give you that one. 8^)  But we are learning that some snack
foods are better than others.  I am diabetic and I have no choice, I
have to cut down on carbs.  So these days I'll munch on a carrot or a
stick of celery with a little peanut butter rather than chocolate.
But it's nice to have a diet Pepsi with dinner, rather than just a
glass of water.  It's nice to have some chips I can have with salsa or
some ice cream I can have for desert.  Nobody eats these things
because they're good for you, but because they're nice to eat.

I agree on that one too.  But we saw the same thing 20  years ago with
cholesterol--things like bananas were advertised as having no
cholesterol!  Today I see candies all the time that say "100% Fat
Free!" on the label, because they're 100% sugar.

But we also see labels like 'No Trans Fats' and 'No Tropical Oils!',
and that's a reflection of the new awareness people have of these
issues.  What's wrong with that?