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Linda Harms - 21 Jan 2004 15:15 GMT
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While "chowing down" on a bowl of pasta!

The only explanation I can think of for his inappropriate remarks re.
the manner in which Dr. Atkins died is that his blood sugar is high from
eating crap and it has affected his thought process.

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Xray586 - 21 Jan 2004 15:59 GMT
Linda wrote:  << The only explanation I can think of for his inappropriate
remarks re.
the manner in which Dr. Atkins died is that his blood sugar is high from
eating crap and it has affected his thought process. >><BR><BR>

I wasn't able to access that link, so I don't know what Bloomberg said.

He has lost weight since becoming mayor though.  How did he do it?
Linda Harms - 21 Jan 2004 21:49 GMT
> Linda wrote:  << The only explanation I can think of for his inappropriate
> remarks re.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> He has lost weight since becoming mayor though.  How did he do it?

Here's the article:

Mayor Bloomberg Weighs In On Atkins Diet
 

JANUARY 20TH, 2004

You've probably argued with your friends over whether the no-carb Atkins
diet really works. Perhaps you've even tried Atkins yourself. Now Mayor
Michael Bloomberg is weighing in, and he's not mincing any words. NY1's
Michael Scotto has the exclusive story.

Was it really a slip and fall that killed diet guru, Robert Atkins?
Mayor Michael Bloomberg isn?t so sure.

?Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bullshit that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right,? joked Bloomberg.

Chowing down on huge plate of pasta, Bloomberg ripped into the man who
told dieters to stay away from carbohydrates.

Atkins died last April when he hit his head after slipping on a patch of
ice in front of his Manhattan office.

He became internationally famous by claiming dieters could shed pounds
while still eating lots of beef and bacon.

While he's often watching his waistline, the mayor's not a fan of what
the diet guru used to cook up.

?I actually went to his house out in South Hampton,? said Bloomberg. ?It
was for a fundraiser about two years ago. It was for Pataki fundraiser,
and I went. The guy was fat -- a big guy ? but heavy and the food was
inedible. I took one appetizer and spit it out in the napkin. It was
just terrible.?

As you can imagine, the people who work for Atkins' company aren't too
happy.

?I knew Atkins in life and he wasn't fat. I've eaten Veronica Atkins'
food and it was good,? said chairperson for the Atkins Physicians
Council Stuart Trager.

The Atkins Physician Council is baffled the mayor even made the
comments. It gave NY1 a letter Bloomberg sent to Atkins' wife, Veronica,
telling her:

?Through a career dedicated to finding innovative ways to help others
improve their health, Dr. Robert C. Atkins touched the lives of so
many.?

?I'd like to hope at least that this is just a joke gone bad and carried
too far,? said Trager.

Since taking office Bloomberg has trimmed down. He's an avid runner and
tries to stay away from high-calorie foods.

Last week, the weight-conscious mayor said he loves low calorie
sandwiches at Subway. The sandwich chain also sells Atkins-friendly
wraps.

But it appears the Mayor's going to stay far away from those sandwiches.

? Michael Scotto


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Signifying nothing.

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Tony Lew - 21 Jan 2004 22:00 GMT
> Linda wrote:  << The only explanation I can think of for his inappropriate
> remarks re.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> He has lost weight since becoming mayor though.  How did he do it?

Maybe he has AIDS.
Dull Pecle - 21 Jan 2004 16:09 GMT
This proves one thing and that is the mayor of New York is a full
fledged IDIOT.

> http://www.ny1.com/ny/Search/SubTopic/index.html?&contentintid=36596
> &search_result=1
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the manner in which Dr. Atkins died is that his blood sugar is high from
> eating crap and it has affected his thought process.
curt - 21 Jan 2004 16:31 GMT
What a classless person that mayor is.  I can't have respect for someone
like that.  You don't joke about someone that is dead and then discuss going
to his home at a fundraiser and said the food was so bad he had to spit it
out.  Talk about no class.

Curt

> http://www.ny1.com/ny/Search/SubTopic/index.html?&contentintid=36596
> &search_result=1
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the manner in which Dr. Atkins died is that his blood sugar is high from
> eating crap and it has affected his thought process.
Dull Pecle - 21 Jan 2004 18:10 GMT
Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
bad because their sales of their poison is going down every day.

> http://www.ny1.com/ny/Search/SubTopic/index.html?&contentintid=36596
> &search_result=1
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> the manner in which Dr. Atkins died is that his blood sugar is high from
> eating crap and it has affected his thought process.
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 19:49 GMT
>Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
>and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
>bad because their sales of their poison is going down every day.

so the Mayor Of NYC is on the payroll of the sugar lobby?

Get a clue.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000620.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Kevin Gowen - 21 Jan 2004 19:57 GMT
>>Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
>>and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Get a clue.

Oh yeah, don't you know. That's also the real reason to go to Mars and
the moon. It's all about the sugar industry. In fact, they put out the
hit on Dr. Atkins, and it's only a matter of time before they get that
South Beach guy.

Ta ta,
K
DoughBoy - 21 Jan 2004 20:03 GMT
> >Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
> >and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Get a clue.

To think that his comments couldn't possibly be linked to special interest
money is rather short sighted and narrow minded.  These days with all of the
product placement we deal with and the ridiculous amounts of 'pay to play'
and 'special interest concerns' in govt. and legislation, the idea isn't as
far fetched as you attempt to make it.
Frank Lynch - 21 Jan 2004 20:07 GMT
>> >Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
>> >and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>and 'special interest concerns' in govt. and legislation, the idea isn't as
>far fetched as you attempt to make it.

Oh, c'mon. He was a guest for food in a firehouse (NY's heroes,
remember?), and they served him a pasta dish (in all likelihood cooked
by a fireman). He was making nice! He wasn't going to say, "no thanks,
I'm low carbing" to the firemen.

I admit he went overboard in his remarks, but I don't see that as
having anything to do with money.

Frank Lynch
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DoughBoy - 21 Jan 2004 20:23 GMT
> >> >Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
> >> >and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
> I admit he went overboard in his remarks, but I don't see that as
> having anything to do with money.

I didn't mean the fact that he was eating a big bowl of pasta, I meant his
comments.  I don't think it would be a stretch to think that you *could*
find large donations to his campaign funds (or whatever) by people that
would benefit from anti-Low Carb rhetoric.  I'm not saying that I think that
it is a conspiracy or that I even think that is the case(IMO, I just think
he's comments showed that he's a f-tard).  I just think it is possible.
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 20:23 GMT
>> >Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
>> >and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>and 'special interest concerns' in govt. and legislation, the idea isn't as
>far fetched as you attempt to make it.

Being "paid to say" something and supporting their legislatorial
agendas are two entirely different things.

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DoughBoy - 21 Jan 2004 20:32 GMT
> >> >Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
> >> >and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> Being "paid to say" something and supporting their legislatorial
> agendas are two entirely different things.

How?  Besides the semantics of it, they're the same thing and it happens ALL
the time.  Special interests make a 'donation' to someone's campaign,
charity, etc. /wink /wink /nudge /nudge.  Then that someone backs
legislation favoring that special interest, or wears their logo, or is seen
eating/buying it, or makes comments about it(or its competitors).  How is
that any different?
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 20:33 GMT
>> Being "paid to say" something and supporting their legislatorial
>> agendas are two entirely different things.
>
>How?

Simple.

"Hey, Mayor, here is $2,500. Go slag Atkins at the firehouse."

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DoughBoy - 21 Jan 2004 20:41 GMT
> >> Being "paid to say" something and supporting their legislatorial
> >> agendas are two entirely different things.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> "Hey, Mayor, here is $2,500. Go slag Atkins at the firehouse."

It is comical that you snipped my post where you did, otherwise you would
have read:

"Besides the semantics of it, they're the same thing and it happens ALL
the time.  Special interests make a 'donation' to someone's campaign,
charity, etc. /wink /wink /nudge /nudge.  Then that someone backs
legislation favoring that special interest, or wears their logo, or is seen
eating/buying it, or makes comments about it(or its competitors).  How is
that any different?"

I don't see how your most recent comment above is any different than what I
describe.
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 20:51 GMT
>> "Hey, Mayor, here is $2,500. Go slag Atkins at the firehouse."
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>eating/buying it, or makes comments about it(or its competitors).  How is
>that any different?"

All irrelevant to the point I made above.

>I don't see how your most recent comment above is any different than what I
>describe.

I'm sure you don't.

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Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
DoughBoy - 21 Jan 2004 20:57 GMT
> >> "Hey, Mayor, here is $2,500. Go slag Atkins at the firehouse."
> >
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> All irrelevant to the point I made above.
How.  It is the same thing.  Rather than said explicitly, it is inferred.
You must be a politician or you want to be one because you don't seem to be
able to see facts for facts.

> >I don't see how your most recent comment above is any different than what I
> >describe.
>
> I'm sure you don't.

Oh, no witty retort?
Charlotte - 21 Jan 2004 21:01 GMT
doughboy wrote
To think that his comments couldn't possibly be linked to special
interest money is rather short sighted and narrow minded. These days
with all of the product placement we deal with and the ridiculous
amounts of 'pay to play' and 'special interest concerns' in govt. and
legislation, the idea isn't as far fetched as you attempt to make it.
==================================
Not that farfetched at all. NYC has recently signed a lucrative deal
with Snapple. City-owned vending machines are going to offer Snapple
products exclusively.
AmyB - 21 Jan 2004 20:43 GMT
Bloomberg spent over 13Million dollars on his campaign (most money spent
ever on a non-presidential election).  Tell me he isn't getting money from
some big corporations.

Again,  Bloomberg is an a.s.

--
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> >Most of these low carb bashers are being paid to say this by the sugar
> >and starch industry. They are running scared and want to stop low carb
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000620.html
> Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 20:52 GMT
>Bloomberg spent over 13Million dollars on his campaign (most money spent
>ever on a non-presidential election).  Tell me he isn't getting money from
>some big corporations.

Show me specifically where he was paid to say what he did at the
firehouse.

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000620.html
Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.
Frank Lynch - 21 Jan 2004 21:07 GMT
>Bloomberg spent over 13Million dollars on his campaign (most money spent
>ever on a non-presidential election).  Tell me he isn't getting money from
>some big corporations.
>
>Again,  Bloomberg is an a.s.

He was very rich PRIOR to running. Heard of the Bloomberg News Agency?

Frank Lynch
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Xray586 - 21 Jan 2004 21:29 GMT
<< Bloomberg spent over 13Million dollars on his campaign (most money spent
ever on a non-presidential election).  Tell me he isn't getting money from
some big corporations.
>><BR><BR>

He is rich and spent his own money on his campaign.
Cubit - 21 Jan 2004 18:13 GMT
Speaking ill of the dead could be political suicide.
Kevin Gowen - 21 Jan 2004 19:35 GMT
> Speaking ill of the dead could be political suicide.

Not really. Politicians do very well for themselves smearing the name of
Joe McCarthy, for example.

Ta ta,
K
SouthrnElf - 21 Jan 2004 20:37 GMT
>Not really. Politicians do very well for themselves smearing the name of
>Joe McCarthy, for example.

It wasn't neccessary to bring politics into this but since you did why would
you think McCarthy had any name to smear? His attacks against Democrats were
motivated more by his inability to be the democratic candidate for D.A.rather
than any real belief that they were communists. McCarthy was a self serving
hypocrit who cried communism any time anyone opposed him.
>rosie< - 21 Jan 2004 20:37 GMT
oh god, PLEASE don't discuss McCarthy.......................one of
Wisconsin's biggest embarrassments!

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> >Not really. Politicians do very well for themselves smearing the name of
> >Joe McCarthy, for example.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> than any real belief that they were communists. McCarthy was a self serving
> hypocrit who cried communism any time anyone opposed him.
Kevin Gowen - 21 Jan 2004 21:14 GMT
> oh god, PLEASE don't discuss McCarthy.......................one of
> Wisconsin's biggest embarrassments!

Why is Wisconsin embarrassed? He's one of the Cold War's great heroes.

Ta ta,
K
Kevin Gowen - 21 Jan 2004 21:13 GMT
>>Not really. Politicians do very well for themselves smearing the name of
>>Joe McCarthy, for example.
>
> It wasn't neccessary to bring politics into this but since you did why would
> you think McCarthy had any name to smear?

Because I have read the Venona intercepts.

> His attacks against Democrats were
> motivated

Which Democrats were those?

> more by his inability to be the democratic candidate for D.A.rather
> than any real belief that they were communists. McCarthy was a self serving
> hypocrit who cried communism any time anyone opposed him.  

The Venona intercepts showed that he didn't cry it nearly enough.

Ta ta,
K
SouthrnElf - 22 Jan 2004 16:03 GMT
>Which Democrats were those?

From the Life and Times of Joe McCarthy by Thomas Reeves -

McCarthy was originally a supporter of Franklin D. Roosevelt and the New Deal.
However, after failing to become the Democratic Party candidate for district
attorney, he switched parties and became the Republican Party candidate in an
election to become a circuit court judge. McCarthy shocked local officials by
fighting a dirty campaign. This included publishing campaign literature that
falsely claimed that his opponent, Edgar Werner, was 73 (he was actually 66).
As well as suggesting that Werner was senile, McCarthy implied that he was
guilty of financial corruption.

McCarthy's first years in the Senate were unimpressive. People also started
coming forward claiming that he had lied about his war record. Another problem
for McCarthy was that he was being investigated for tax offences and for taking
bribes from the Pepsi-Cola Company. In May, 1950, afraid that he would be
defeated in the next election, McCarthy held a meeting with some of his closest
advisers and asked for suggestions on how he could retain his seat. Edmund
Walsh, a Roman Catholics priest, came up with the idea that he should begin a
campaign against communist subversives working in the Democratic
administration.

On 20th February McCarthy made a six hour speech on the Senate floor about how
the Democratic administration had been infiltrated by communist subversives.
McCarthy named four of these people, who had held left-wing views in their
youth, but when Democrats accused McCarthy of smear tactics, he suggested they
were part of this communist conspiracy. This claim was used against his critics
who were up for re-election in 1950. Many of them lost and this made other
Democrats reluctant to criticize McCarthy in case they became targets of his
smear campaigns.

This witch-hunt and anti-communist hysteria became known as McCarthyism.

McCarthyism was mainly used against Democrats associated with the New Deal
policies introduced by Franklin D. Roosevelt in the 1930s. Harry S. Truman and
members of his Democratic administration such as George Marshall and Dean
Acheson, were accused of being soft on communism. Truman was portrayed as a
dangerous liberal and McCarthy's campaign helped the Republican candidate,
Dwight Eisenhower, win the presidential election in 1952.

End of quote --
AmyB - 21 Jan 2004 20:44 GMT
Let's hope.

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> Speaking ill of the dead could be political suicide.
norsk - 21 Jan 2004 19:44 GMT
> http://www.ny1.com/ny/Search/SubTopic/index.html?&contentintid=36596

"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bullshit that he dropped dead slipping
on a sidewalk, yeah right," joked Bloomberg.

That is an absolutely shocking statement from a public official. I can't
even believe this guy is that stupid.

Norsk
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 20:18 GMT
>"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bullshit that he dropped dead slipping
>on a sidewalk, yeah right," joked Bloomberg.

I don't believe it either. I believe that the chances that Atkins had
another cardiac event is so much higher statistically that it is one
heck of a lot more difficult to believe the "Accidentally slipped and
fell theory".

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Cubit - 21 Jan 2004 21:01 GMT
> >"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bullshit that he dropped dead slipping
> >on a sidewalk, yeah right," joked Bloomberg.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap000620.html
> Lift well, Eat less, Walk fast, Live long.

Ever walked on black ice?
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 21:27 GMT
>> I don't believe it either. I believe that the chances that Atkins had
>> another cardiac event is so much higher statistically that it is one
>> heck of a lot more difficult to believe the "Accidentally slipped and
>> fell theory".

>Ever walked on black ice?

Not while having a MI, no.

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>rosie< - 21 Jan 2004 20:34 GMT
BLOOMBERG, often suffers from "foot in mouth
disease"..................

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Reb - 21 Jan 2004 21:25 GMT
"Atkins is dead. I don't believe that bull[expletive] that he dropped dead
slipping on a sidewalk, yeah right," joked Bloomberg.

What I don't get is why some people are so worked up thinking Atkins' cause
of death was covered up.  The man was in his seventies.  Even if he had
full-blown heart disease and dropped over from a massive heart attack, he
had an average lifespan and was unquestionably active and living a full life
throughout it.  Are we supposed to think, "Oh, no, that might happen to me,
too!"?

Reb
Largest Mu_n - 21 Jan 2004 21:28 GMT
>What I don't get is why some people are so worked up thinking Atkins' cause
>of death was covered up.  The man was in his seventies.  Even if he had
>full-blown heart disease and dropped over from a massive heart attack,

That's the point.

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Kevin Gowen - 21 Jan 2004 21:39 GMT
>>What I don't get is why some people are so worked up thinking Atkins' cause
>>of death was covered up.  The man was in his seventies.  Even if he had
>>full-blown heart disease and dropped over from a massive heart attack,
>
> That's the point.

I think we all know that Atkins was being paid to say all that stuff by
the cooking oil and shortening lobby.

Ta ta,
K
 
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