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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004After-Induction questions - Need Advice!
While I was losing weight during induction, I unfortunately seem to have gained 1 lb back after induction (and have not lost any during the 7 days after induction). Okay, I finished up my induction, and have only made a few changes: The biggest change is that I've been eating 1 to 2 ounces of macadamia nuts for lunch each day, which was suggested so that I don't go 8 or 9 hours between meals. I've added about 1 cup of low-carb vegetables to my daily food intake. Two days, I had a few strawberries with cream. 2 days ago, I had one square of regular Hershey's dark chocolate. Hubby really wanted me to eat it... he kept dangling the bar in front of my nose. I gave in and ate 2 square. I haven't gained since then so I don't think it really had an effect, although I don't plan on doing that again. So I went from 250 to 239 during induction. A day or two after induction, the scale went up to 240... I was thinking it was just a fluke or something, but my scale keeps telling me I'm 240 for the past 6 or so days... I'm a little discouraged. Slowing down weight loss is normal after induction, right? Should I just keep going as I have been and give this more time? Should I stop eating the nuts? Suggestions would be appreciated! Thanks -- Spring LC since 1/1/04 250/240/170 > While I was losing weight during induction, I unfortunately seem to have > gained 1 lb back after induction (and have not lost any during the 7 days > after induction). > Okay, I finished up my induction, and have only made a few changes: <snip> > 2 days ago, I had one square of regular Hershey's dark chocolate. Hubby > really wanted me to eat it... he kept dangling the bar in front of my nose. <snip> This is more disconcerting to me than the 1lb weight gain. I hope you have a better support system in place than 'hubby'. If I was in the process of changing my WOE for the better and my hubby dangled a chocolate bar in front of my nose, he would've got a whack in something that dangles on him. What a jerk! Why did he 'really' want you to eat it? What benefit did he gain from it other than the satisfaction of sabotaging you? My sympathies. Dawn (aka Brightstar/Neonite) 238++/199/140 Yikes. I had no idea my hubby would be getting such a bad rap on here! > Why did he 'really' want you to eat it? What benefit did he gain from it > other than the satisfaction of sabotaging you? I'm not sure. I don't believe he was trying to sabatage me, though. -- Spring LC since 1/1/04 250/240/170 You are 250 lbs, on a diet, and your husband is forcing you to eat a chocolate bar, danggling it in front of your face. What is wrong with this picture? Why is he doing this to you, would be my question. i > You are 250 lbs, on a diet, and your husband is forcing you to eat a > chocolate bar, danggling it in front of your face. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > i He's just trying to toughen her up. Ta ta, K > You are 250 lbs, on a diet, and your husband is forcing you to eat a > chocolate bar, danggling it in front of your face. > > What is wrong with this picture? > > Why is he doing this to you, would be my question. Trying to keep her fat so she can't get another guy? Or maybe he just likes em big. >> You are 250 lbs, on a diet, and your husband is forcing you to eat a >> chocolate bar, danggling it in front of your face. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Trying to keep her fat so she can't get another guy? > Or maybe he just likes em big. I think that it warrants a swift kick in the a.s, metaphorically speaking. I don't let anyone do it to me. i > While I was losing weight during induction, I unfortunately seem to have > gained 1 lb back after induction (and have not lost any during the 7 days [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > LC since 1/1/04 > 250/240/170 Are you about to start your monthly? Water-weight gain at that time is common for women. You could try cutting out the nuts if you like, and replace them with something else, but I doubt the extra pound has anything to do with what you're eating. Slowed down weight loss after induction is common. Having a few weeks go by with the scale not changing is common. Water-weight fluctuations of a pound or two are common. Losing weight in the long-term is due to calories consumed being less than calories expended, but the short-term variations in the number on the scale day to day have to do with far more complicated and mysterious things. My suggestion is to go ahead and weigh yourself as often as you like, but it only "counts" once a month. Oh, on a side note, tell your husband he needs to cut that crap out. Offering you chocolate!!?? Sheesh. He's trying to sabotauge you. Tell him it's just like if he were trying to quit smoking and you offered him a cigarette, or if he were in AA and you insisted he share a six-pack with you. It's not supportive, and he needs to examine his motivations for why he's working against you, his partner in life and love, instead of trying to help you.  SignatureMichelle Levin http://www.mindspring.com/~lunachick I have only 3 flaws. My first flaw is thinking that I only have 3 flaws. > While I was losing weight during induction, I unfortunately seem to have > gained 1 lb back after induction (and have not lost any during the 7 days [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > Thanks Well, are you eating the same amount of food/calories besides the nuts that you were on induction? According to fitday, two ounces of macadamias (about 22 nuts--very easy to overeat for me, at least) is 407 calories. If you were eating at a losing calorie level before, adding an extra 400 on top of that could be enough to stop your loss. I would guess that the additional LC veggies are probably not the culprit, unless you are also eating a lot of dressing or butter on them. That could also be adding a substantial calorie increase. I would try having a less calorie-dense snack--string cheese, veggies with dip, some meat and cheese roll ups -- to get you over the 8-9 hour "hump" and see if that makes a difference. Just my .02 :) - jen c 259/208/140 nuts can hold you up, try having them every other day or not for a while. Also you asked about the weight loss, yes, it is normal to slow down after the initial weight loss. I reached a new all-time low the other day, only to gain that pound the next day. Your weight will fluxulate, your hormones will affect your weight, but hang in there. For all you gals with PMS munchies- don't give in, I once read you burn a few extra calories at this time, don't give in and you will maybe see a drop. as for the chocolate bar, think poison. We are killing ourselves buy carrying this extra weight. You will get sugar free treats soon enough- but not yet. There is a whole chapter in the Diet revolution book on weight stalls-for me, I need to watch nuts, soda, and limit cheese. I only tried it once so far, but aspirers seems to flush you out. Hmmm, I'm going to boil some up tonight. Hey, good way to store aspirers is in a plastic bag on the door of refrigerator, standing up in a little water- get the tips wet and it only holds a few days. Diane SignatureDM > > While I was losing weight during induction, I unfortunately seem to have > > gained 1 lb back after induction (and have not lost any during the 7 days [quoted text clipped - 44 lines] > - jen c > 259/208/140 > as for the chocolate bar, think poison. We are killing ourselves buy > carrying this extra weight. You will get sugar free treats soon enough- but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > door of refrigerator, standing up in a little water- get the tips wet and it > only holds a few days. Are you talking about asparagus? SignatureSaffire 205/175/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 > nuts can hold you up, try having them every other day or not for a while. > Also you asked about the weight loss, yes, it is normal to slow down after [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > munchies- don't give in, I once read you burn a few extra calories at this > time, don't give in and you will maybe see a drop. Or, do. Many people find that having one day a month (or so) when they eat more than usual and/or higher carb, keeps their weight loss chugging along. cf - refeed I don't see anything wrong with coordinating this with a time when your body is asking for more food anyway. > as for the chocolate bar, think poison. We are killing ourselves buy > carrying this extra weight. You will get sugar free treats soon enough- but [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > door of refrigerator, standing up in a little water- get the tips wet and it > only holds a few days. I have no idea what aspirers are in this context, but if it works for you, that's great. Martha SignatureBegin where you are - but don't end there. Martha, major typo on my part that spell-check changed.. " aspirers" was asparagras. And yes, I am being cleaned out today by the asparagras I ate last night. I won't need my flax seed meal today and if I learn how to spell asparagras, we won't have this problem Last nights meal was decadent- asparagras with hollandaise sauce, yummy. only 1 carb. I ended up dipping everything in it. 1/4 c butter, 1 egg yolk a little salt and lemon or vinegar. can't use a microwave, or at least mine didn't turn out right on low power- cook on top of stove at low heat. I was frightened into going onto a diet by my last physical. Instead of Doc patronizing me he read me the riot act- I needed it, and bread & sugar was my #1 enemy, so yes,carbs are like poison to me. I'm committed to making this work, and everyone knows you will gain this weight back fast if you go back to high carb. I left that office really pissed off, mainly because I was finally singled out to get moving. Another week or 2 to get started on Atkins. Diane definitely 20 lbs lighter SignatureDM > > > nuts can hold you up, try having them every other day or not for a while. [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Martha > and have not lost any during the 7 days > after induction. Few do. It's called the standard post Induction pause. Completely normal, completely predictable, not a sign of any problem. Maybe 1 in 5 see it in week 4 as well, nearly noone in week 5. You're fine. > 2 days ago, I had one square of regular Hershey's dark chocolate. A day or two at 20 should handle that. > Hubby > really wanted me to eat it... he kept dangling the bar in front of my nose. > I gave in and ate 2 square. Take him to the races. After the horses pass, give him the binoculars and have him watch. Point out that now that the horses are moving away, he can see himself. He earned it. > A day or two after induction, > the scale went up to 240... It's called water retention. My water retention swing is 6 pounds. One is nothing. > Slowing down weight loss is normal after induction, right? Week 3 pause is standard. After that, Induction loss can not used used for comparison anyways. Carbs are stored dissolved in water. Goodbye stored carbs, goodbye water. So Induction loss is water plus fat. Water weight a lot and now you've lost as much as you will. From here on it is all fat. > Take him to the races. After the horses pass, give him the binoculars > and have him watch. Point out that now that the horses are moving away, > he can see himself. He earned it. Bwahahaha! Marsha/Ohio > > and have not lost any during the 7 days > > after induction. [quoted text clipped - 28 lines] > Water weight a lot and now you've lost as much as you will. From here on > it is all fat. I learned alot from all this. New and in induction for almost a week now. So now I know what to expect. Great info! I am going to stay in induction longer than 2 weeks myself. Because I got alot of weight to lose. Was 264-now I am 252. Not weighing myself until a week from Saturday next time though. I hid the scales.. My sons keep wanting to hop on them, and its driving me nuts. > I am going to stay in induction longer than 2 weeks myself. Because I > got alot of weight to lose. Was 264-now I am 252. Why? On the average for most people, loss on the entire plan is better than loss by extending Induction. Dr Atkins spent three decades trying to improve on his original plan of 1972. By 1993 he'd figured out that it needed a maintenance phase, but the actual food you'd eat by following the directions didn't change much from 1972 through 2001. It is very unlikely you can improve on that work by doing the obvious. He tried the obvious quite early on, and his non-obvious system works better. It's okay. You're new and emotional. Nearly all new folks are. So your emotions are driving you to do the obvious, the most extreme thing you can think of. Don't. Take advantage of the good doctor's three decades of constant work. No matter that it isn't obvious. So far phase 1 of the 4 phase plan has worked well for you. Allow the other 3 phases to work well for you also. Step out in faith! > While I was losing weight during induction, I unfortunately seem to have > gained 1 lb back after induction (and have not lost any during the 7 days > after induction). It's common for weight loss to pause at this point. I didn't lose during the week after induction and when I finally did, it wasn't very much. Some people lose at a faster rate than others. If you stay the course, though, it WILL work! SignatureSaffire 205/175/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 |
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