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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / January 2004Atkins : Has stopped working for me, advice needed
Hi, I lost 4kgs in the first four days of Dr Atkins (wow). Then nothing in 3 weeks of DR A. I just haven't budged a gram. I thought I might be eating too much cheese so cut that out. I suspect that if you creep over your max-carbs then you've wasted your time? Diet : Lots of Chicken Tikka, Boiled Eggs, Cheese, Mayo, Salad , not much else. Advice & encouragement please!! > Advice & encouragement please!! How about providing us with a sample daily menu .... and please be as precise as you can be (exact measurement etc.)  SignatureJim Marnott 231/194/194 (Hit goal on 22 Nov '03 -- exactly 6 months later) Atkins since 22 May '03 Gym since 1 sept '03 > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Advice & encouragement please!! what is your weight and height. how much are you eating and how much you are exercising. i >> Diet : Lots of Chicken Tikka, Boiled Eggs, Cheese, Mayo, Salad , not >> much else. Salad? As in lettuce? Where are your other veggies? LCing since 12/01/03- Me- 265/236/140 & hubby- 310/264/180 >Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >Diet : Lots of Chicken Tikka, Boiled Eggs, Cheese, Mayo, Salad , not >much else. A lot of CHicken Tikka recipes use Yogurt which is a no-no. Have you been counting carbs/fat/protein & calories? You might want to for a few days just to see where you really are? Also what is your starting weight and goal. People who don't have much to loose will loose a limited amount. Also some have mentioned having no weight loss in weeks 3&4. DId you take any body measurements? ANy inches missing-clothes fitting better. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) > >Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > A lot of CHicken Tikka recipes use Yogurt which is a no-no. Depending on where you are in the whatever program you're doing, yogurt may not be on the approved foods list, but the opinion of those who've looked into this is that yogurt is actually very low carb because all the yogurt cultures eat the lactose in the milk. So the true carb reading is really lower than what it says on the side of the container. Martha SignatureBegin where you are - but don't end there. > Hi, > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > Diet : Lots of Chicken Tikka, Boiled Eggs, Cheese, Mayo, Salad , not > much else. Collective Thread Response: The Chicken is supermarket bought is dry w/o a sauce. Also some fish. Some extra veg. I believe I've been pretty strict. Sorry am not carb counting, thought I'd be OK if I eat the right foods. Am also swimmimg 2/3 times a week, some cycling but it's winter. (must be easier dieting in the summer!). I'm not over eating the protein because I don't find it terribly appetising. No great desire for sweet stuff, but really miss fruit!!. Heard from a friend that they lost nothing for 2 weeks then 3kgs in a day. Please keep advice coming!! (Can I eat a British Fried breakfast w/o the toast?) >Please keep advice coming!! >(Can I eat a British Fried breakfast w/o the toast?) You'll have to clue us in on what a British Fried breakfast is ... ;) >>Please keep advice coming!! >>(Can I eat a British Fried breakfast w/o the toast?) > >You'll have to clue us in on what a British Fried breakfast is ... ;) It's fried in fat/butter egg (sunny side up) fried bacon & sausages in other diets considered a calorie disaster zzapper (vim & cygwin & zsh) -- vim -c ":%s/^/WhfgTNabgureRIvzSUnpxre/|:%s/[R-T]/ /Ig|:normal ggVGg?" http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=305 Best of Vim Tips >It's fried in fat/butter egg (sunny side up) fried bacon & sausages in >other diets considered a calorie disaster I would find that a little bit of overload, personally - but lots of people on this list eat this way and lose just fine. > >>Please keep advice coming!! > >>(Can I eat a British Fried breakfast w/o the toast?) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > zzapper (vim & cygwin & zsh) so quit eating it then. sounds like a calorie disaster in any diet, > The Chicken is supermarket bought is dry w/o a sauce. Also some fish. I have bought white chicken meat in YEARS. Ever since I was a kid I've disliked it because it's so dry. I remember making leftover chicken sandwiches, but ALWAYS slathering them with mayo and sometimes adding more mayo partway through eating. Off and on as an adult I've bought chicken breasts since they were always recommended for low-fat diets, but was ALWAYS disappointed. I evenually came to the conclusion that it was worth it to me to have the dark meat, even if I had to skimp on something else. I'm a sucker for thighs, in chicken and men ;-) SignatureSaffire 205/175/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 > > The Chicken is supermarket bought is dry w/o a sauce. Also some fish. > > I have bought white chicken meat in YEARS. Ever since I was a kid I've disliked Um, make that haveN'T bought white chicken meat :-) SignatureSaffire 205/175/125 Atkins since 6/14/03 Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333 >> The Chicken is supermarket bought is dry w/o a sauce. Also some fish. > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >I had to skimp on something else. I'm a sucker for thighs, in chicken and men >;-) SKin-on chicken tends to be less dry because of the fat content in the skin keeps the meat moist. Chicken breast cooks very fast and people over cook it quickly. You might try using a meat thermometer to lesen cooking times without risking uncoked me. I overcook things too often. Always think a steak takes longer than it does. My mother overcooks everything and your description of chicken is what every holiday turkey dinner was like. Some years there wasn't enough gravy in the world to choke that stuff down. DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email) > > Hi, > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Collective Thread Response: > The Chicken is supermarket bought is dry w/o a sauce. Chicken tikka is dry, when it's cooked, but it is marinated in a yogurt-based sauce before cooking. That's not evident when it's served, but if you look at a recipe, it definitely gets a yogurt soaking before cooking. However, someone else mentioned that yogurt doesn't have nearly the number of carbs that the label says, because the live cultures eat the lactose, or some such thing. Lee > I lost 4kgs in the first four days of Dr Atkins (wow). Then nothing in > 3 weeks of DR A. I just haven't budged a gram. No weighing at all during Induction. So here's my translation: I lost 4kg during Induction, so I am successfull. I am now in the middle of the standard post Induction pause, but since it is not listed in the book I want to know how long it lasts? The standard post induction pause lasts week 3, and maybe week 4. Drop the daily time scale. The actual, frustrating, real, irritating time scale for loss is month to month. > Advice & encouragement please!! You've done fine. You lose fine during Induction. You're riding out the expected post Induction pause fine. Move on to OWL now. > > I lost 4kgs in the first four days of Dr Atkins (wow). Then nothing in > > 3 weeks of DR A. I just haven't budged a gram. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > You've done fine. You lose fine during Induction. You're riding > out the expected post Induction pause fine. Move on to OWL now. That's what I wanted to hear (After the first week I expected to lose 4kgs every week!) > > The standard post induction pause lasts week 3, and maybe week 4. > > Drop the daily time scale. The actual, frustrating, real, irritating [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > After the first week I expected to lose 4kgs every week! Take a step back and think about what is possible and impossible to give your expectations something realistic. Fat is 8000+ calories per kilogram. It is not impoosible in any way to burn that many calories in a week over and above what you eat no matter how little you eat. Induction loss includes fat, plus carbs, plus the water that the carbs are stored in. Fat isn't dissolved in water to store it, carbs are. Burn off stored carbs, drop the water it was stored in. After Induction there's no more stored carbs, no more water to drop, it's all fat from there on. This means that Induction loss has no possible basis for comparison to later progress. There's no reasonable way to estimate how much of Induction loss was fat until over a month later and even then any estimation is a wild guess. |
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