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Right - this time....I'm sticking to it......!!

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Vixen - 23 Jan 2004 10:32 GMT
Morning all, please can I join your group and hopefully have the long
termers good habits rub off on me down the wires ? :)

I have been dabbling with Atkins for the last two years and know for a
fact it works for me. But I regularly fall off the wagon with a
resounding crash and as a consequence where I started out unhappy at
10 stone ( I was 8.5 stone when I met hubby) I am now terrified and
disgusted with myself at 11 stone 6.

Just before Christmans, I discovered I had gone to 11 stone 3 and in a
fit of determination did 3 very strict weeks of Atkins, plus
introduced excersise. In three weeks I was at 10 stone 11. Hurrah!!
Then I developed an infected cyst in my boob and ended up in hospital
for four days. Of course UK hospitals aren't really into Atkins and
besides as my family has a history of breast cancer I was a bit wired
and ended up comfort eating too. Fortunately as I'm getting infections
it means I am a low cancer risk so Phew on that score. But once out of
hospital I just lost the plot again. Then it was Christmas. Then my
35th Birthday. The excuses go on and on. I'm on day three of
antibiotics for another infection now, but as my clothes are getting
tight again I checked on the scales and Bingo - 11 stone 6. This is
heavier than just after I had my son nine years ago.

Please can some of you lovely people throw a few crumbs (Freudian
slip!!) of advice my way, or at least help me figure out why I keep
sabpotaging my efforts?

My husband loves me just the way I am, and says if I looked fat he
would tell me - I do curvy all over so I'm lucky in that way, but
watching my wardrobe shrink is really upsetting me. For Christmas he
bought me three boxes of chocolates, and is more inclined to believe I
have an underactive thyroid than actually we're eating badly all
together. He will not eat any veggies apart from potatoes, and has
always been the same, and I'm well aware of the pitfalls here -
however he says if anything green passes his lips he'll throw up.
Hypnotism didn't work. Consequently though I have painstakingly
explained Atkins and how good it is for me to him, he has a kind of
mental block that means he will give me treats which are not on the
Atkins list. If I reject them he feels really hurt. If I ask him not
to do it, he says he just wants to make me happy, and as he knows I
love chocolates etc this is his way of being affectionate. The trouble
is I'm inclined to start blaming him for my weight gain, and
ultimately it's my own choice not to put the bad stuff in my
mouth......can you see where I'm coming from peeps ?? Is there an
answer that won't leave him feeling rejected and me feeling guilty ??

But apart from all that, can anyone also tell me whether due to my
yo-yo approach (which I know is bad) I have stopped Atkins from
working for me, or if I really stick with it again will I see results
as quickly as before ??

And many thanks for allowing me to come here and ask you these
questions....all replies very much welcomed :)
Jeri - 23 Jan 2004 11:25 GMT
> Morning all, please can I join your group and hopefully have the long
> termers good habits rub off on me down the wires ? :)
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> 10 stone ( I was 8.5 stone when I met hubby) I am now terrified and
> disgusted with myself at 11 stone 6.
<snip>
> Please can some of you lovely people throw a few crumbs (Freudian
> slip!!) of advice my way, or at least help me figure out why I keep
> sabpotaging my efforts?

I think only you can really figure that out but once you do that's half the
battle won already.

> My husband loves me just the way I am, and says if I looked fat he
> would tell me - I do curvy all over so I'm lucky in that way, but
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> mouth......can you see where I'm coming from peeps ?? Is there an
> answer that won't leave him feeling rejected and me feeling guilty ??

I think it's time you sat him down for a heart to heart talk. It's up to you
to set your own boundaries. Let him know that you ARE going to do this and
that *he* has the choice to support you or not. You will no longer feel
guilty if he chooses not to support your efforts to be healthier.
Then do it.

If he doesn't want to feel rejected there are plenty of gifts he can choose
to give you that don't pertain to eating. It's his choice to make and you
shouldn't feel guilty if he chooses to not respect your boundaries.

> But apart from all that, can anyone also tell me whether due to my
> yo-yo approach (which I know is bad) I have stopped Atkins from
> working for me, or if I really stick with it again will I see results
> as quickly as before ??

Whether you're going to see results as quickly as before is a total YYMV
(your mileage may vary) thing. But as long as it works and you're healthier
does it really matter if it works fast?

I'm sure you've figured out by now that low carb is really a way of life not
just a weight loss diet. While you won't always have to avoid carby foods
you'll never be able to consume them as you once did unless you want the
weight to return.

> And many thanks for allowing me to come here and ask you these
> questions....all replies very much welcomed :)

Welcome to the low carb way of life!
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Jeri
265/189/120
Atkins since 11/5/01
"Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."
--Henry Ford

Vixen - 23 Jan 2004 15:25 GMT
> > Morning all, please can I join your group and hopefully have the long
> > termers good habits rub off on me down the wires ? :)
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>
> Welcome to the low carb way of life!

Thanks for that :) I think actually writing it all down helped
enormously - I did exactly what you suggested about an hour ago, and
my husband has promised to try not to tempt me with edible love
tokens....

And as you say, if I get seriously stuck in I suppose the proof of the
pudding will be in the eating..... or not, hopefully ;) !!
Jenny - 23 Jan 2004 12:59 GMT
Vixen,

Here are a couple pages where I put together my thoughts about going off the
diet and getting back on and on what it takes to stay on-plan for the long
term.

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/offplan.htm  What happens when you
crash off the diet and how to get back on.

http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/diab-diet.htm Strategies that can
help a person stay on the diet longterm.  The page is written for people
with diabetes, for whom carb control is a matter of life and death, but the
ideas apply to anyone who wants to low carb long term.

It takes a while longer to see results when you start up a low carb diet
after a couple tries, but eventually it should start working again. Hang in
there!

-- Jenny  - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my  email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit  http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

> Morning all, please can I join your group and hopefully have the long
> termers good habits rub off on me down the wires ? :)
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> And many thanks for allowing me to come here and ask you these
> questions....all replies very much welcomed :)
Sprgtime - 23 Jan 2004 14:30 GMT
"Vixen" <vicci@f2s.com> wrote in message

> My husband loves me just the way I am, and says if I looked fat he
> would tell me - I do curvy all over so I'm lucky in that way, but
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> love chocolates etc this is his way of being affectionate.  Is there an
> answer that won't leave him feeling rejected and me feeling guilty ??

Wow... your husband sounds a lot like mine.  If you figure this thing out -
let me know!

How long have you been married?  In my first year of marriage, my husband
lost 70 lbs and I gained 40.  It was kind of a mingling of 2 very different
lifestyles.  His changed to be more healthy, and mine changed to be more
unhealthy.

The only way I could really get him to eat many vegetables is by mixing them
into casseroles.  So instead of having seperated parts to the meal, we'd
have a lumpy pile of whatever meal we were having.  He doesn't usually pick
out his veggies, so this works.

The treat thing... that's a tough one for me.  I feel like I have enough
willpower to avoid bad foods, but 99% of the bad foods that ever find their
way into my home are bought by him - many of which he buys specifically to
give to me.
I told him I would rather he bring me flowers than food treats.  He does get
me flowers, but not as often as chocolates, etc.
I often just take my chocolates or whatever to work and let my coworkers eat
them instead of me.

Anyhow - Good Luck to you.

--
Spring
LC since 1/1/04
250/239/170
Ignoramus14193 - 23 Jan 2004 15:48 GMT
Try asking your husband in a nice way not to bring you junk food as
treats and gifts. Most likely, he just does not know better.

i
Sprgtime - 23 Jan 2004 16:29 GMT
> Try asking your husband in a nice way not to bring you junk food as
> treats and gifts. Most likely, he just does not know better.

We've had this conversation many times in the past 4 yrs of being married.
It works for about one week, maybe two.  Then he goes back to getting junk
food for me.
One time, when I got really upset, he was good for an entire month or two.

It was his idea to try low carb.  He spent effort convincing me to look into
it, and after I did I agreed that it sounded good.  Then after a couple of
days he was ready to quit.  He hasn't completely quit yet, but he does cheat
a lot.  He's mostly been trying to talk me into quitting with him so we can
both go back to the way we used to eat.

I doubt he's concerned about his health.  He never goes for checkups, and
people in his family live until they are very very old.  He's got great
genes, I think.

My family medical history is one complication after another... I'm mostly
hoping that low carb will help stear me clear from getting diabetes, as I am
already hypoglycemic.

--
Spring
LC since 1/1/04
250/239/170
LCer09 - 25 Jan 2004 18:33 GMT
>> My husband loves me just the way I am, and says if I looked fat he
>> would tell me - I do curvy all over so I'm lucky in that way, but
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
>> love chocolates etc this is his way of being affectionate.  Is there an
>> answer that won't leave him feeling rejected and me feeling guilty ??

Tell him that if he loves you no matter what, that means he wants you to be
happy. And that you are NOT happy with yourself in your current physical
condition. So bringing you candy is basically saying "I don't give a damn about
you" even if he doesn't realize it.

Wow, this thread makes me SO grateful for my husband and all the support he's
given me!

LCing since 12/01/03-
Me- 265/234/140
& hubby- 310/262/180
Luna - 25 Jan 2004 19:30 GMT
> >> My husband loves me just the way I am, and says if I looked fat he
> >> would tell me - I do curvy all over so I'm lucky in that way, but
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
> Me- 265/234/140
> & hubby- 310/262/180

Maybe also you could suggest other ways for him to show you affection. Foot
rubs are nice.   If he HAS to do it with food, maybe he could bring you
some gourmet cheeses?

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The_Pittmans - 23 Jan 2004 18:03 GMT
How many pounds is a stone?

> Morning all, please can I join your group and hopefully have the long
> termers good habits rub off on me down the wires ? :)
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
> And many thanks for allowing me to come here and ask you these
> questions....all replies very much welcomed :)
DJ Delorie - 23 Jan 2004 21:26 GMT
> How many pounds is a stone?

14

http://www.delorie.com/health/eng-met.html
Kevin Gowen - 23 Jan 2004 22:26 GMT
> How many pounds is a stone?

It's called a dictionary. Look into it.

Ta ta,
K
Doug Freyburger - 23 Jan 2004 22:32 GMT
> Please can some of you lovely people throw a few crumbs (Freudian
> slip!!) of advice my way, or at least help me figure out why I keep
> sabpotaging my efforts?

Atkins is not a diet, so it is not something to quit.  It goes on and
on and it gets easier as time goes on.  Don't quit, the simplist
secret around.

Atkins is not a diet and it has 4 phases.  I bet you stayted in phase 1.
Move on to phase 2 on schedule and it becomes less restrictive so
falling off gets less tempting.

Atkins is not a diet, it is a lifelong lifestyle.  Lifestyles aren't
perfect, and you won't be perfect on Atkins.  It's no big deal since
you moved onto phases 2+ anyways.  If you try to make anything perfect
any inperfection can be viewed as a failure and an excuse to quit, so
don't target perfect once you've finished Induction.
FOB - 23 Jan 2004 23:12 GMT
You've got to get very serious with your hubby and tell him that giving you
fattening food does NOT make you happy, on the contrary, his failure to
respect and support your needs makes you very sad.   Give him a list of
things he can get you that would be on your eating plan, such as some nice
cheeses.    Tell him that because you love him you want to be around for him
for a long time and that continuing to gain weight will threaten that
possibilty.  Fix meals with a protein you can both eat, greens and other
veggies for yourself (and your son, I hope he is not eating only potatoes
like his father) and a potato for hubby.

In news:5cef56b0.0401230232.17e50c@posting.google.com,
Vixen <vicci@f2s.com> stated
| Morning all, please can I join your group and hopefully have the long
| termers good habits rub off on me down the wires ? :)
[quoted text clipped - 49 lines]
| And many thanks for allowing me to come here and ask you these
| questions....all replies very much welcomed :)
Vixen - 24 Jan 2004 12:34 GMT
Well, thanks for the great responses - the pages were really useful
that Jenny pointed me too, and it's helpful to know I'm not alone in
the Husband department - my son is particularly fond of sprouts and
broccoli so he does get a good balance, although getting him to eat
regulalry is hard - I'm told most 9 year olds are the same and he's
fit and growing so I try not to pass on my food issues to him.

Coming on here has really helped - reading the posts etc helps me
focus on the important things, and means if I log on and off a few
tiomes a day it stops me doing other things, like looking in the
cupboards...... reading posts is such a good distraction!!

Anyway, as things crop up I'll be asking questions no doubt, but in
the mean time best of luck to anyone else starting over and well done
to the long term successes!!

"FOB" <fob@fobmail.com> wrote in message news:<8ThQb.33424$P%
1.26249799@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
> You've got to get very serious with your hubby and tell him that giving you
> fattening food does NOT make you happy, on the contrary, his failure to
[quoted text clipped - 61 lines]
> | And many thanks for allowing me to come here and ask you these
> | questions....all replies very much welcomed :)
 
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