When I read the list of veggies you can eat freely, vs. moderateion,
vs. banned something struck me... that probalby only a gardener would
notice.
I was reading an article discussing Atkins and they said this...
"Insulin is a hormone, which is a substance that travels through the
body and stimulates chemical reactions. The human body has mechanisms
to regulate how much of each hormone is produced, so that its effects
can be controlled. With insulin, however, there is no "shut-off"
switch as there is with other hormones. Insulin is produced by the
digestion of carbohydrates, and there is no way to stop its activity
once it is present in the bloodstream. There is also no way to prevent
it from being produced when carbohydrates are consumed, even if these
are in excess of what the body needs for fuel. I believe the reason
for this is clear - that when humans evolved to produce insulin,
carbohydrates were so limited in the diet that a shut-off mechanism
was not necessary."
I think she was slightly off. Most of the sugary vegetables are
summer and late-summer veggies. Some have ripening stages, where they
change color. The change of color increases the sugar content and
sweetness. Most of the leafy greens grow in late winter early spring
and often can't survive the heat of summer. Only a few can be grown
throughout the growing season till frost. For the "caveman" that would
mean that carbs would gradually become available, with low glycemic
veggies first. Then as summer wanes bursts of heavy sugar vegetables
would be available--for a limited amount of time (no storage).
It's almost like the sugar content of summer edibles was designed to
spark appetite, to make us eat up, and fatten for winter. Foregoing
technology man would do this just as much as any creature in the wild.
It makes sense to me. It also means carbs are meant to encourage
appetite and crave carbs for survival through winter. That would offer
a evolutionary reason why carbs do what they do.
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Robyn Rosenthal - 23 Jan 2004 22:16 GMT
>From: DigitalVinyl reader@internet.com
>When I read the list of veggies you can eat freely, vs. moderateion,
>vs. banned something struck me... that probalby only a gardener would
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>a evolutionary reason why carbs do what they do.
>DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
You might find some of the books on the Paleo diet interesting:)Robyn
Cubit - 24 Jan 2004 02:28 GMT
I'm impressed.
> When I read the list of veggies you can eat freely, vs. moderateion,
> vs. banned something struck me... that probalby only a gardener would
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> a evolutionary reason why carbs do what they do.
> DiGiTAL_ViNYL (no email)
jamie - 24 Jan 2004 17:25 GMT
> I think she was slightly off. Most of the sugary vegetables are
> summer and late-summer veggies. Some have ripening stages, where they
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> veggies first. Then as summer wanes bursts of heavy sugar vegetables
> would be available--for a limited amount of time (no storage).
I think what you're missing in your theory is that fruits have been bred
for centuries for much larger and sweeter fruits. Various vegetables have
been bred larger and sweeter for centuries as well. Wild strawberries,
raspberries and blackberries are tiny compared to cultivated berries,
wild species of apples grow fruits not much larger than a golfball.
Wild carrot (Queen Anne's Lace) has a very small taproot which is
recognizably scented as carrot but isn't very sweet. Corn (maize)
originally had ears around the size of what's sold today as "baby" corn.
You can't really compare cultivated produce to what was available to
stone age people.

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DigitalVinyl - 25 Jan 2004 01:49 GMT
>> I think she was slightly off. Most of the sugary vegetables are
>> summer and late-summer veggies. Some have ripening stages, where they
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>I think what you're missing in your theory is that fruits have been bred
>for centuries for much larger and sweeter fruits.
Absolutely. However, it does not change the fact that many summer
fruits/veggies have a ripening stage. This isn't seen with lettuce for
instance. In fact, salad greens left to long turn bitter. But
tomatoes, squash, peppers, pumpkins, eggplant amongst others all ripen
and change color--and I don't think the concept of changing colors to
ripen was bred/engineered. The ripening phase is when the sugar are
developed.
ANd this doesn't discount the idea. Remember insulin has no
counter-agent. Sugar present, insulin released. SO it may not require
Sugar Snap Pea (not an anturally occuring breed) or the new
ultra-sweet corns to trigger the cravings. Even in smaller amounts it
could affect us.
>Various vegetables have
>been bred larger and sweeter for centuries as well. Wild strawberries,
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>You can't really compare cultivated produce to what was available to
>stone age people.
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