> What's the difference?
SBD is both low carbs and low fat compared to Atkins, which is primarily low
carb. SBD is less restrictive regarding carbs, but the carbs that you eat
are "healthier" meaning that you can do brown rice instead of white rice,
whole grain breads instead of white bread, etc. From my read of both books,
SBD is a more up-to-date version of Atkins - Atkins was written in the
1970s, SBD is much more recent. Makes a real distinction between "good"
fats and "bad" fats. SBD seems like a healthier WOE in the long-run. That
said, I find Atkins easier to do, for me. It is my expectation that once I
get to my goal, I'll be switching to the SBD WOE for the long term.
Sandy K.
WhansaMi - 26 Jan 2004 19:26 GMT
>SBD is both low carbs and low fat compared to Atkins, which is primarily low
>carb. SBD is less restrictive regarding carbs, but the carbs that you eat
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>Sandy K.
Sandy, that's been my thought too. I started out with SBD two weeks ago, but
have been moving more toward Atkins as the weeks have gone by. I'm concerned
that some of the foods that SBD allows are too processed -- like the lower fat
cheeses, and such. My thought is that a blend will be a better approach for
me, more Atkins now, more SBD later.
Sheila
Cailleachschilde - 26 Jan 2004 20:36 GMT
>SBD is both low carbs and low fat compared to Atkins, which is primarily low
>carb.
So basically what you are saying is that South Beach is high protein, low fat,
low carbs. How is that healthy?
Yvonne
tcmedara - 26 Jan 2004 20:59 GMT
>> SBD is both low carbs and low fat compared to Atkins, which is
>> primarily low carb.
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> Yvonne
Its probably better to read the books than skim newsgroups looking for
summaries. Comments are often overgeneralized or to specific to be of
general use. Your comment/question above is a case in point. Sandy wrote
the SBD was low fat *compared to Atkins*. SBD is by no means a typical low
fat diet. Rather, he emphasizes healthy fats (e.g. canolo, olive oils) and
restricts intake of animal and saturated fats. The basic concept of
contolling insulin response is similar, but South Beach was written with an
eye toward trends in cardiac preventive wealth. Of course that's my own
read. I'll leave it to others to judge whether it's healthy or not.
Tom
tcmedara - 26 Jan 2004 21:00 GMT
>>> SBD is both low carbs and low fat compared to Atkins, which is
>>> primarily low carb.
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> Tom
oops,
thats "health" not "wealth"
Cailleachschilde - 26 Jan 2004 23:23 GMT
>The basic concept of contolling insulin response is similar,
>> but South Beach was written with an eye toward trends in cardiac
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>thats "health" not "wealth"
Hehehe. I think you got it right the first time. Write a diet book and make a
million dollars.
Yvonne
tcmedara - 27 Jan 2004 00:59 GMT
>> The basic concept of contolling insulin response is similar,
>>> but South Beach was written with an eye toward trends in cardiac
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> Yvonne
You may be right! I didn't catch the connotation of my own typo, but I
guess that could work either way :)
> What's the difference?
Read the books.
I read South Beach, haven't read Atkins but it seems to me that South
Beach isn't nearly as strict during the induction phase as Atkins is,
and SB introduces "good carbs" earlier in the diet. Also, SB tends to
tout lower fat foods (reduced fat cottage cheese vs. full fat, reduced
fat cream cheese, etc.). Once through the first pahse of SB you can
start to introduce carbs like whole grain breads, whole wheat pasta,
etc.
Anyone else?
Lee
Sandy K. - 27 Jan 2004 14:30 GMT
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> Lee
I have friends tht are doing the SBD. They've lost weight and the plan is
working for them. I find Atkins easier, as it fits my lifestyle. My buddy
has 2 snacks during the day to ward off hunger - my lifestyle is such that
I'd rather just eat my 3 meals and a small snack in the evening. The one
thing I do though, is that when I decide to "cheat" on Atkins, I think South
Beach. I treat myself to an orange or maybe order some brown rice with my
chinese food. However, the next day I go right back to following the Atkins
WOE. The suggestion to read both boks is a good one - you have to decide
for yourself what will work for you.
Sandy K.
>What's the difference?
My problem with SBD is that in adding some of these "good carbs" it
triggers me to either eat too much of them or triggers me to eat the
bad ones after i ate the good ones. I went from Atkins to SB one
weekend and bought 2 cans of chickpeas to roast or put in my salad.
Well after i got them home those poor chickies did not see the light
of the next day. Not so bad with the fruit because I refuse to believe
that fruit makes you fat but as far as the beans and legumes
go....forgetaboutit
Susan - 27 Jan 2004 16:22 GMT
> Not so bad with the fruit because I refuse to believe
>that fruit makes you fat but as far as the beans and legumes
>go....forgetaboutit
Fructose, the sugar in fruit is very efficient in inducing diabetes in lab
rats.
Susan
> What's the difference?
Well, in addition to what everbody else said, SBD is a little less
methodical. There isn't any carb counting, per se -- just note what
you're eating, especially as you transition from phase 1 to phase 2.
He even says to introduce these new foods (like fruit, whole grain
bread, etc.) in moderation. If you add a piece of fruit or slice of
bread a day and continue losing, great. If you add BOTH and stall out,
cut back a little on the carbs. But there's no set numerical limits,
even on the first phase.
Both seem like good diets; I'm doing SBD right now and have lost 20
pounds so far. Sure feel better... (and since it's keeping me from
buying much garbage at work, I'm brining more [healthy] lunches to
work, which is a big help. Tastes better, too.)
> What's the difference?
nothing really. both work via calorie reduction.