Sorbitol, Matinol and the OLS!!

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ldd - 27 Jan 2004 02:43 GMT

Since Maltitol is metabolised at the rate of 3 calories per gram in everyone
who doesn't get the runs, even if their blood sugar doesn't spike, this
seems like a very poor nutritional choice for someone on a low carb diet.
You are getting 13.5 grams of glucose in every serving <<----

IF You don't get the runs, that means your sugar doesn;t spike? Or the
results are regarless if you get the runs or not?

My understanding are that if you get the runs that means your body did not
burned that carb and it went straight to the intestine...

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Jenny - 27 Jan 2004 14:47 GMT

No, what my all-too complex sentence meant was that if you don't get the
runs you will metabolise the maltitol. Some people who metabolise it will
experience a blood sugar spike. Others will not.

However, the reason for this is those who do not experience the spike are
breaking down the maltitol not in the stomach but further on in the
intestines, and perhaps with the help of the friendly bacteria who live
there. This is a slower process, hence the carbs are liberated from the
maltitol more slowly, but they are still absorbed into the body and
eventually into the blood stream.

Exactly what causes the runs isn't entirely clear. Possibly the maltitol
draws water into the intesting. Possibly the bacteria create digestion
byproducts to which the person is sensitive. I'm not sure this is
completely understood. I'm also not sure what this means for how much
maltitol gets into the system. If it is baceterial digestive byproducts,
some probably is absorbed before the runs start, but I don't know that this
has been explored. I do know that studies show that the cutoff where runs
occur is around 20 grams but people reporting here seem to have had the
problem when eating less.
-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
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> Since Maltitol is metabolised at the rate of 3 calories per gram in everyone
> who doesn't get the runs, even if their blood sugar doesn't spike, this
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> My understanding are that if you get the runs that means your body did not
> burned that carb and it went straight to the intestine...

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PJx - 27 Jan 2004 17:59 GMT

Geeez, I wish you would preface your postings with IMHO or "I
believe". Readers would have twice the respect for you.

But I can add some facts for you to put in your pipe and smoke.

Dreyers "No sugar added" Butter Pecan Ice Cream says that it has 2g
of sugar Alcohol per 1/2 cup, and the label says it contains Sorbitol
along with the sugar.

I added exactly 1/4 cup of the ice cream as the first sugar alcohol
product I've had in a year of low carbing. That figures out to 1 g of
sugar alcohol. And it had a laxative effect, so I waited a week and
tried 1/4 cup again. It again had a laxative effect.

Never had a blood sugar test so can't help you there.

PJ

>No, what my all-too complex sentence meant was that if you don't get the
>runs you will metabolise the maltitol. Some people who metabolise it will
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>> My understanding are that if you get the runs that means your body did not
>> burned that carb and it went straight to the intestine...

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Jenny - 27 Jan 2004 18:35 GMT

>Geeez, I wish you would preface your postings with IMHO or "I
>believe". Readers would have twice the respect for you.

I've noticed that people always demand that other people use IMHO only when
the other person posts something they don't agree with. If they agree with
it, then, of course, it isn't opinion.

But the first thing they teach you in journalism class is that ANYTHING you
write that isn't a hard news release is your personal opinion which makes it
a hallmark of poor writing to include phrases like "I think" or "in my
opinion" in your work.

And there's nothing magical about including an acronym. For those who are
worried about protecting the supposedly dimwitted newbies who might make
terrible life-changing mistakes after slavishly following any advice they
read on their first visit to a newsgroup, did you forget that true newbies
usually have no idea what the initials "IMHO" mean?

-- Jenny - Low Carbing for 4 years. At goal for weight. Type 2 diabetes,
hba1c 5.2.
Cut the carbs to respond to my email address!

Low carb facts and figures, my weight-loss photos, tips, recipes,
strategies for dealing with diabetes and more at
http://www.geocities.com/jenny_the_bean/

Looking for help controlling your blood sugar?
Visit http://www.alt-support-diabetes.org/Newly%20Diagnosed.htm

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Chakolate - 27 Jan 2004 19:18 GMT

> But the first thing they teach you in journalism class is that
> ANYTHING you write that isn't a hard news release is your personal
> opinion which makes it a hallmark of poor writing to include phrases
> like "I think" or "in my opinion" in your work.

Quite true, and I've told my students repeatedly not to include those
phrases. However, you must consider the medium as well. If you're writing
a piece for the OpEd page, you don't have to say it's your opinion. If
you're writing for a group like this, the custom is to use such acronyms.

It's the same with smilies. In non-net usage, I never use smilies, I
expect people to understand my mood from my words. However, on usenet it's
expected that if you're kidding, you'll use a smilie.

IMNSHO, it's just good manners to use such acronyms. YMOV.

Chakolate

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SouthrnElf - 27 Jan 2004 19:45 GMT

>>Geeez, I wish you would preface your postings with IMHO or "I
>>believe". Readers would have twice the respect for you.
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>a hallmark of poor writing to include phrases like "I think" or "in my
>opinion" in your work.

Must be a different class - I got make sure you have a rock sold confirmed
source for anything you state as a fact.

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