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just me - 27 Jan 2004 13:13 GMT
Would you please repost the recipe for the Ginger Cheesecake.
I must have missed that one.
warren - 27 Jan 2004 13:37 GMT
I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
eating.
At 8Pm I had jello w/ heavy cream.... 2 cups
11PM atkins cereal w/ carbo lite milk
1 AM an atkins bar....

THEN I slept good...
Any advice...
Warren
DoughBoy - 27 Jan 2004 15:24 GMT
> I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
> eating.
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> Any advice...
> Warren

The only advice that will work is to close your mouth.  Although it sounds
harsh, only you can control your eating.

What does your average daily menu look like?  You're not going to get over
your carb addiction if you keep eating all of those carbs.  Stop eating the
crap and tough it out for 2 weeks.  After that first week, you'll stop
having the cravings.

-Dough
Atlas - 27 Jan 2004 16:16 GMT
>> I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
>> eating.
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>
>-Dough

Sounds like around the clock feeding!  Post your diet for the day. If
doing Induction, keep reading.

Atlas
Ignoramus14140 - 27 Jan 2004 16:54 GMT
> "warren" <warren@optonline.net> wrote in message
>> I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
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> The only advice that will work is to close your mouth.  Although it sounds
> harsh, only you can control your eating.

And it also works great,. I was as bad a night time eater as it
gets. Waking up at night to eat.

Then I decided, no more of that stuff, and now I never eat after 6pm
(convenient time for me since I get home around 5).

Works greatm after a week of struggling, not eating at night is easy.

> What does your average daily menu look like?  You're not going to get over
> your carb addiction if you keep eating all of those carbs.  Stop eating the
> crap and tough it out for 2 weeks.  After that first week, you'll stop
> having the cravings.

I suggest not eating any atkins labeled products, and no junk food in
general.

i
DoughBoy - 27 Jan 2004 18:22 GMT
> > The only advice that will work is to close your mouth.  Although it sounds
> > harsh, only you can control your eating.
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>
> Works greatm after a week of struggling, not eating at night is easy.
Mine is kinda late, but my schedule depends on it.  I don't eat after 10pm.
I get home from my 'real' job at 6-6:30pm, then usually have my peronal work
to do, so I'm either in my office working or meeting with people.  I try to
eat dinner as early as possible, but there are many times that I don't get
really 'in' until 9pm.

> > What does your average daily menu look like?  You're not going to get over
> > your carb addiction if you keep eating all of those carbs.  Stop eating the
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> I suggest not eating any atkins labeled products, and no junk food in
> general.

I tend to agree.  IMO all of that stuff is cheating.  I understand that
people want to try and maintain their 'normal' way of living, but I
disagree.  That 'normal' way of living is what got me fat.  I'm trying to
NOT be fat, so I know I'd have to make some serious changes.  Eating those
faux candy/cookies/bars/cereal is a copout to me.
Ignoramus14140 - 27 Jan 2004 18:42 GMT
> Mine is kinda late, but my schedule depends on it.  I don't eat after 10pm.
> I get home from my 'real' job at 6-6:30pm, then usually have my peronal work
> to do, so I'm either in my office working or meeting with people.  I try to
> eat dinner as early as possible, but there are many times that I don't get
> really 'in' until 9pm.

Well, what's important is to have a regular time-out from food, then
night cravings go away as the body gets used to those timeouts.

>> I suggest not eating any atkins labeled products, and no junk food in
>> general.
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> NOT be fat, so I know I'd have to make some serious changes.  Eating those
> faux candy/cookies/bars/cereal is a copout to me.

And to me, it is not even a "normal" way of eating.

i
warren - 27 Jan 2004 22:55 GMT
thanks for all the good advice. what I got out of it is to nix the
atkins stuff. that seems to be adding to it and try to do without
anything. The only problem is that I am hypoglycemic and I live on
eating every 4 hours. Any additional advice.
Warren

>  
>
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>
>i
jpatti - 28 Jan 2004 16:45 GMT
> thanks for all the good advice. what I got out of it is to nix the
> atkins stuff. that seems to be adding to it and try to do without
> anything. The only problem is that I am hypoglycemic and I live on
> eating every 4 hours. Any additional advice.
> Warren

Eat every four hours.  Heck, eat every half hour if you want.  But eat
the foods on your diet, not other stuff.

I keep hard-boiled eggs, pepperoni and deli-sliced ham around for
munching as necessary.

Induction is for changing your biochemistry, not for weight loss.  OWL
is for weight loss, that's what the WL stands for.

The important bit is to stick to the appropriate foods those first
couple weeks.  Volume doesn't matter... eat all day if you want, but
eat induction foods.
Cailleachschilde - 29 Jan 2004 01:51 GMT
>> thanks for all the good advice. what I got out of it is to nix the
>> atkins stuff. that seems to be adding to it and try to do without
>> anything. The only problem is that I am hypoglycemic and I live on
>> eating every 4 hours. Any additional advice.
>> Warren

I was hypoglycemic when I started Atkins and had to eat every 4 hours.  So I
would eat small meals every 4 hours.  Only acceptable induction foods.  I don't
have that problem anymore.  I can go 5-6 hours between meals.  

Yvonne
glas - 28 Jan 2004 04:48 GMT
> > I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
> > eating.
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> The only advice that will work is to close your mouth.  Although it sounds
> harsh, only you can control your eating.

Well, here is some advice that might also work, buy a very large ham with
your groceries every week. When you are hungry slice off a couple nice
pieces of it and eat that. Otherwise, I had a lot of success with the
low-carb pudding that is made with cream cheese, heavy cream and sugar free
instant pudding. It satisfies the craving for sweets but isn't really sweet
enough to put me on a carb binge.

chrissy

> What does your average daily menu look like?  You're not going to get over
> your carb addiction if you keep eating all of those carbs.  Stop eating the
> crap and tough it out for 2 weeks.  After that first week, you'll stop
> having the cravings.

> -Dough
Cubit - 27 Jan 2004 16:06 GMT
Often, in time your appetite will reduce.  Be prepared to change.

Note: Some folks get stalls when eating the made-for-low-carb bars and other
products.
may - 28 Jan 2004 00:21 GMT
>I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
>eating.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Any advice...
>Warren

Bleah..sounds like me last summer when I "did Atkins" for a few weeks
(in which time  I gained five or six pounds). I was a night eater for
years until late November; now I'm a newbie "normal eater" and there's
no magic cure. If you want to lose weight..and not feel like crap
about your eating habits to boot..you just have to decide you will not
die by going back to the bed you may not be sleeping so well in
without putting something in your mouth. Give it a week and you will
most likely feel much better, weight loss aside. For me what helped
was forcing myself to consume a small amount of something on the
induction list (which I don't think cereal is btw, Atkins brand or
not) in the morning, and again during the day, using that every six
waking hour guideline. ( I had previously gone all day without eating
and then generally eaten a lot after work with two or three..sometimes
more "after bed" trips back to the kitchen) The first week or two
induction I really still ate a pretty large dinner..at least compared
to what I find I'm satisfied with now..but I kept it to induction
foods and I absolutely didn't allow myself to eat after that. I still
woke up..and I have to say I still do. I kept some zucchini and lunch
meat in the frig in case I "had" to eat, because I really didn't think
I could stop. I got rid of the crap I used to eat mindlessly and I
didn't buy Atkins bars and peanut butter cups that I would only end up
eating  for snacks as I did the "first time I was on Atkins" when I
gained five pounds in two weeks. (I have nothing against bars or
shakes in the right circumstances, frankly if that's the best I can
do for lunch and it  keeps things on track I have a shake) I drank
water till it came out my ears and have learned to keep bottles of it
in the frig so when I find myself opening that door at two am they are
there. And I'll tell ya I feel one hundred percent better about myself
being able to get up in the morning and not have to feel like hiding
from FitDay..yeah that's the other thing.. if you are serious, and
ready to change, using something like FitDay can really help..when you
have to see that in one night you ate ten times your weight in
calories, it's a real kick in the a.s. Good Luck and watch out for
yourself with the cereals and the bars and even to an extent the
amount of heavy cream in the beginning..they have carbs, and they have
calories, and you may find that like myself you would do better to
limit/avoid them for at least a few weeks.
     May
"When choosing between two evils, I always like to try the one I've never tried before."
                                 -Mae West
PJx - 28 Jan 2004 00:31 GMT
>I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
>eating.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Any advice...
>Warren

When  I do that, I wait to see how long I can go the next day without
eating.  I often get up at 6am and don't eat til 2pm.  But I don't
overeat like some do.
PJ
warren - 29 Jan 2004 13:13 GMT
Thanks to all that wrote... I like this advice (below) but there is a
lot of truth to be gained from everones personal experience....
thanks again (I will write more as I try )
Warren

>>    
>
> When  I do that, I wait to see how long I can go the next day without
>eating.  I often get up at 6am and don't eat til 2pm.  But I don't
>overeat like some do.
>PJ
Cailleachschilde - 28 Jan 2004 06:55 GMT
>I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
>eating.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Any advice...
>Warren

Atkins cereal with milk and Atkins bars are not allowed on induction.
Therefore, you are not on induction.

Rules of Induction:
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-325810.html

Acceptable Foods:
http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-325810.html

Yvonne
warren - 29 Jan 2004 13:15 GMT
thanks..... very helpful.
Warren

>Rules of Induction:
>http://atkins.com/Archive/2001/12/15-325810.html
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>
>Yvonne
Doug Freyburger - 28 Jan 2004 23:12 GMT
> I am on the induction Atkins diet ...
> At 8Pm I had jello w/ heavy cream.... 2 cups

Far too much dairy.  At 0.4 per tablespoon that much put you
well over your 20.

> 11PM atkins cereal w/ carbo lite milk
> 1 AM an atkins bar....

Unfortunately neither is Induction food.  Back to day one for
best results.

In a later post you mention you're hypoglycemic.  That makes
starting much harder but it also makes the benefits much larger.
Think of it as crossing one of those scarey rope bridges in an
adventure movie.  And try high fat foods that are natural.
Sheena - 28 Jan 2004 23:28 GMT
>> I am on the induction Atkins diet ...
>> At 8Pm I had jello w/ heavy cream.... 2 cups
>
>Far too much dairy.  At 0.4 per tablespoon that much put you
>well over your 20.

Was that 2 cups of cream or 2 cups of jello with cream?
warren - 29 Jan 2004 13:16 GMT
2 cups of jello w/ 2 tablespoons of heavy cream.... what do you think?
Warren

>  
>
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>
>Was that 2 cups of cream or 2 cups of jello with cream?
Doug Freyburger - 30 Jan 2004 16:01 GMT
> 2 cups of jello w/ 2 tablespoons of heavy cream.... what do you think?

With a cup of heavy cream at 6, a tablespoon is 0.4.  Two are 0.8.
Sugar free Jello is near true zero carbs but it has aspartame,
regular Jello has far more sugar than most low carb plans allow.
billydee - 30 Jan 2004 18:40 GMT
> I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
> eating.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Any advice...
> Warren

don't eat after dinner.
Ignoramus11235 - 30 Jan 2004 18:45 GMT
>> I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
>> eating.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> don't eat after dinner.

great advice.

eat nothing after dinner, period. (unless you are diabetic etc)

i
Dave Dumanis - 30 Jan 2004 19:50 GMT
Atkins cereal is not acceptable on induction.
Atkins bars are not acceptable on induction.
2 cups of cream are not acceptable on induction.

Read the book, people.

If you cheat, you're just cheating yourself.

> I am on the induction Atkins diet. I am having trouble with late night
> eating.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Any advice...
> Warren
firstjois - 31 Jan 2004 05:12 GMT
Try a handful of almonds, chew 'em up one at a time and then go to bed
early.

Have you been reading about the Di Vinci syrups in this newsgroup?  The no
calorie vanilla and ice cubes and a blender makes a nice icy snack - eat
with a spoon, kind of nice stuff and then go to bed early.

I know if I have almonds I usually need to brush my teeth and then after
brushing my teeth I *hate* to think about eating again.  And the later I
stay up, the snackier I feel.

Jois

: Atkins cereal is not acceptable on induction.
: Atkins bars are not acceptable on induction.
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: > Any advice...
: > Warren
Jean B. - 28 Jan 2004 00:09 GMT
> Would you please repost the recipe for the Ginger Cheesecake.
> I must have missed that one.

Sure, here it is:

Jean B's Ginger Mini-Cheesecakes (6)
Based on a recipe in Craig Claiborne's Herb and Spice Cookbook.

Comments:  1.  I made this recipe mainly using erythritol.  That
gave the cheesecake a bit of a grainy texture.  After I got over
the shock, it was fine, but you may not like it.  Hence, you may
wish to use all Splenda.  2.  I am not sure the crust added
anything to the recipe, although it does probably make it a bit
easier to eat/remove from the foil cup.  It made it hard to put
all of the topping on.  Even though I have now reduced the topping
by half, you will still probably have extra.  3.  I used real
candied ginger, since my experiment with erythritol failed.  (I
think one could make candied ginger with maltitol, but I have "a
problem" with that, so I haven't tried it.)  Anyway, the bin at
Whole Foods claimed that four pieces contain 14.63 grams of
carbohydrate.  I used slightly over one piece for all six, and I
could very well have used just one.  It is not clear to me how
important it is that you use this; I think it may be very
important though.  This is very nice if you like ginger.

Crust:
1/3 c Bob's Red Mill Almond Flour (this is pretty
 coarse)
1 Tbsp erythritol
1/2 tsp Splenda (you could just use 1 Tbsp Splenda,
 omitting the e'tol, which was fine here)
1 Tbsp butter, melted

Filling:
8 ounces cream cheese, softened
5 Tbsps erythritol
1 Tbsp Splenda (see comments above; I may try 1/3 c
 Splenda next, omitting the e'tol)
2 tsps freshly grated ginger (I packed it pretty well)
1 egg

Topping:
1/4 cup sour cream
1 1/2 tsps erythritol
1/2 tsp Splenda (I'm sure you could just use 1 1/2 tsps
 Splenda, omitting the e'tol)
very finely minced candied ginger (see comments above)

Preheat oven to 325F.  Line 6 muffin cups with foil liners.
 Combine filling ingredients and divide evenly among muffin
cups.  Press down firmly with fingertips.
 Mix cream cheese and sweetener thoroughly with electric mixer.
Mix in ginger and then egg.  Scrape down sides of bowl as
necessary throughout the process.  Divide evenly between muffin
cups and smooth tops a bit.
 Bake for ca 25 minutes.  (Mine were pretty firm; you might be
able to bake for a little less time.)
 Meanwhile, combine the sour cream and sweetener.
 Remove cheesecakes from oven and divide topping among them.  You
may not be able to use all of it without risk of overflowing the
liners.  Dot with minced candied ginger.
 Return to oven and bake for an additional 10 minutes.
 Remove from oven.  Cool.  Then wrap and chill.  (I left them in
the pan and covered the top.  When they are thoroughly cold, they
are firm enough so they can easily be removed from the pan.)  
Jean B. via asdl-c.

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demon news - 28 Jan 2004 09:35 GMT
Sorry to be a pain, but do you have a carb count for this as it sounds
great.
Thanks
WM

> > Would you please repost the recipe for the Ginger Cheesecake.
> > I must have missed that one.
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> are firm enough so they can easily be removed from the pan.)
> Jean B. via asdl-c.
Jean B. - 28 Jan 2004 17:12 GMT
> Sorry to be a pain, but do you have a carb count for this as it sounds
> great.
> Thanks
> WM

No, I don't.  If I have a chunk of spare time, I'll try
calculating that.  Maybe someone has a program that can do it
quickly though....

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