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Weight Loss Forum / Low Carb / February 2005Carls JR. No carb Burger Sucks
I tried it tonight and was VERY disappointed. In the Ads it VERY CLEARLY shows the patty wrapped in a type of leaf lettuce, when in reality it's wrapped in cheap Iceburg lettuce. I assume the same story holds true at Hardees which is owned by the same company. BG > I tried it tonight and was VERY disappointed. In the Ads it VERY CLEARLY shows > the patty wrapped in a type of leaf lettuce, when in reality it's wrapped in > cheap Iceburg lettuce. I assume the same story holds true at Hardees which is > owned by the same company. BG hmmm ... crappy fast food ... imagine that. I've had it a few times, and I really enjoy it. I just use a fork to eat it instead of picking it up. You're right about the lettuce, tho.. it would be nice to have a good leafy one. But, really.. the burger tastes great :) (tho it COULD be because I haven't eaten at fast food restaurants in well over a year:) -Nora Mae PEZfreak! >>I tried it tonight and was VERY disappointed. In the Ads it VERY CLEARLY shows >>the patty wrapped in a type of leaf lettuce, when in reality it's wrapped in >>cheap Iceburg lettuce. I assume the same story holds true at Hardees which is >>owned by the same company. BG > > hmmm ... crappy fast food ... imagine that. > I tried it tonight and was VERY disappointed. In the Ads it VERY CLEARLY shows > the patty wrapped in a type of leaf lettuce, when in reality it's wrapped in > cheap Iceburg lettuce. I assume the same story holds true at Hardees which is > owned by the same company. BG I guess then you have an option - Don't eat it. Great to live in a free country, isn't it? >I guess then you have an option - Don't eat it. >Great to live in a free country, isn't it? ################ THE point IS...they advertise one thing and serve another. BG > >I guess then you have an option - Don't eat it. > >Great to live in a free country, isn't it? > > ################ > THE point IS...they advertise one thing and serve another. BG and this is a surpise to you? fast food has never lived up to the pictures in its advertisements. > > >I guess then you have an option - Don't eat it. > > >Great to live in a free country, isn't it? [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > fast food has never lived up to the pictures in its advertisements. I watched a program on tv years ago about a photographer who shot pics of food for magazines, advertisements, etc. They purposely undercook food to make it look fresher. And they make sure that every little ingredient on the food is placed just right before snapping any pics. I've NEVER gotten anything from any restaurant that resembled anything I saw in an ad. Linda In article <isSRb.128541$6y6.2511313@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, "Lady o' the house" <mslew64@hotmail.com> wrote: :I watched a program on tv years ago about a photographer who shot pics of :food for magazines, advertisements, etc. They purposely undercook food to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] : :Linda Food Stylists are hired for most any type of food advertising...including the new Subway/Atkins campaign. They're highly specialized and employ many tricks of the trade, such as glycerin. It's fascinating to watch these stylists in action. In addition to every ingredient being placed right, every ingredient must look perfect. Therefore, monumental amounts of ingredients are purchased to find just the right lettuce leaf, just the right tomato slice, just the right onion slice, etc. Representatives of the advertiser are present on the set to approve (or disapprove, as the case may be!) any food shots prior to the camera rolling. I've worked on many McDonalds commercials over many decades and I've never tired of watching food stylists! Aloha...Sue (a 4 year lurker in asdl-c!) reelserviceshawaii.com the new Subway/Atkins campaign. That should be interesting -- just about everything Subway sells is associated with (high carb) bread. Anyone familiar with how Subway is getting around the bread issue? Touting salads, perhaps? they are nothing fantastic but they are not bad. the famous star is all I get. now the 6 dollar burger in the low carb version does suck.  SignatureKnight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. > the new Subway/Atkins campaign. > > That should be interesting -- just about everything Subway sells is >associated with (high carb) bread. > Anyone familiar with how Subway is getting around the bread issue? >Touting salads, perhaps? They're doing warps, and imo they aren't all that low carb. The tuna wrap at 7 net carbs is the lowest - but who wants a tuna wrap? Not me anyway ;p Turkey bacon melt has 11 net carbs, chicken bacon ranch has 9 net carbs, as does savoury turkey breast wrap. Oh and the tuna salad is 8 net carbs. Maybe if I was at the point where I could eat 50-100 carbs a day, but as someone trying to find my CCLL and only at 25 carbs currently (moving up to 30 tomorrow) I'm not going to waste them on a wrap for 10 carbs. ----- 285.5/259/120 monthly-goal: 8 month-start: 265.5 > They're doing warps, and imo they aren't all that low carb. The tuna > wrap at 7 net carbs is the lowest - but who wants a tuna wrap? Not me [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Oh and the tuna salad is 8 net carbs. None of their low carb items interested me so I asked for my favorite sandwich made on the wrap, I had really missed it. SignatureNo Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes > the new Subway/Atkins campaign. > > That should be interesting -- just about everything Subway sells is > associated with (high carb) bread. > Anyone familiar with how Subway is getting around the bread issue? > Touting salads, perhaps? They have salads and low carb wraps. The wrap they have is kind of gummy, I like Santa Fe brand tortillas better I also use the Santa Fe Low Carb tortillas but have noticed I can keep them in the fridge for 90 days and they don't spoil. I have never had any go bad. Scary for sure.... SignatureEmil >> On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 09:38:37 -1000, Sue Larkin <suereel@xobop.com> The wrap they have is kind of gummy, I > like Santa Fe brand tortillas better > I also use the Santa Fe Low Carb tortillas but have noticed I can keep them > in the fridge for 90 days and they don't spoil. [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > The wrap they have is kind of gummy, I > > like Santa Fe brand tortillas better Cardboard has been known to have a tendency to do that though. > the new Subway/Atkins campaign. > > That should be interesting -- just about everything Subway sells is > associated with (high carb) bread. > Anyone familiar with how Subway is getting around the bread issue? > Touting salads, perhaps? The subways here say "turn any sandwich into a salad". They put the meat from the sub in the asalad and you tell them what other toppings you want - like tomatoes, black olives, cucumbers, peppers, etc and what dressing. > the new Subway/Atkins campaign. > > That should be interesting -- just about everything Subway sells is > associated with (high carb) bread. > Anyone familiar with how Subway is getting around the bread issue? > Touting salads, perhaps? I've had the Subway low carb wraps a few times in the last year. They taste OK. But they are fairly expensive. Then too, most of their sandwiches are moderately pricey. I found the book : "Start Small, Finish Big: 15 Key Lessons to Start--and Run--Your Own Successful Business" by John P. Hayes, Fred DeLuca very revealing of the Subway Success and philosophy. In the beginning, they literally staggered along making one mistake after another, and still managing to stay in business. > I found the book : > "Start Small, Finish Big: 15 Key Lessons to Start--and Run--Your Own [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > In the beginning, they literally staggered along making one mistake > after another, and still managing to stay in business. Driving the highway and byways subway is the only restauraunt that's low carb friendly that you can find almost anywhere. Their salads are great and the wraps are ok. But they are high quality everywhere. >Driving the highway and byways subway is the only restauraunt >that's low carb friendly that you can find almost anywhere. >Their salads are great and the wraps are ok. But they are >high quality everywhere. Personally, I never cared for Subway's bread -- especially because the crust is soft, unlike the crusty kind I like in what otherwise looks similar to a loaf of French or Italian bread. But I'm really surprised you'd think that "driving the highway and byways subway is the only restauraunt that's low carb friendly that you can find almost anywhere" because nowadays, if worse came to worse and you were really famished driving just about anywhere in the US, ANY McDonalds or BK or Carls Jr. etc. would be able to make a low-carb burger for you. > Personally, I never cared for Subway's bread I never eat the bread so it's not a problem for me :-) > you can find almost anywhere" because nowadays, if worse came to worse > and you were really famished driving just about anywhere in the US, > ANY McDonalds or BK or Carls Jr. etc. would be able to make a low-carb > burger for you. Carls has a great low carb burger, but they have very few outlets comparatively. Otherwise i would eat there. I don't want just a crappy patty either. Subway gives you a very tastey *meal* >Carls has a great low carb burger, but they have very few outlets >comparatively. Otherwise i would eat there. I don't want just >a crappy patty either. Subway gives you a very tastey *meal* subway is tasty? all their meats and cheese's and such are very low quality and not very flavorful. SignatureKnight-Toolworks & Custom Planes Custom made wooden planes at reasonable prices See http://www.knight-toolworks.com For prices and ordering instructions. Don't you think flavorful is kind of subjective? I know people that love liver and onions. Some folks will enjoy it and others won't, just like the Carl's Jr./Hardees stuff. Believe it or not, there are people who detest that lovely leafy lettuce and can't get enough of the iceberg variety. Regarding not finding low carb, I find just the opposite to be true as compared to ten years ago when I first started low carb. Applebee's, Ryan's, Friday's, Arby's, Bonanza, Ponderosa.. everybody's on the band wagon. Heck, even Cracker Barrel has a low carb breakfast. The one's that tickle me are the fast food restaurants like Subway that offer a low carb wrap and then offer you a discount on the combo if you get a drink and chips or fries. At least they're headed in the right direction. ;o) An after thought just landed. Somebody mentioned any burger joint could make a low carb burger. Maybe not. Some of them used to mix in textured vegetable protein, don't know if they still do or not. > Regarding not finding low carb, I find just the opposite to be true as > compared to ten years ago when I first started low carb. Applebee's, > Ryan's, Friday's, Arby's, Bonanza, Ponderosa.. everybody's on the band > wagon. Heck, even Cracker Barrel has a low carb breakfast. All paces you'll find in a bigger city. Not a little one. I suggest you take a road trip through the continental us, canada, and alaska. You won't see very many of the restauraunts you list at all. >> Regarding not finding low carb, I find just the opposite to be true as >> compared to ten years ago when I first started low carb. Applebee's, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > canada, and alaska. You won't see very many of the restauraunts > you list at all. I grew up in a town of 1900 people - we didn't have any of the above restaurants - but near almost every tiny town there are larger cities and I had access to almost all of the above in about a 10-30 minute drive. Even if you only have mom and pop restaurants - a person on a LC WOE should know what is healthy and what isn't. > > Regarding not finding low carb, I find just the opposite to be true as > > compared to ten years ago when I first started low carb. Applebee's, [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > canada, and alaska. You won't see very many of the restauraunts > you list at all. I don't even live in a small city, but rather a small town. Every one of the chains I listed, except Friday's (20 minutes) are available within a ten minute drive. Our entire county is around 100,000 people. All the surrounding counties in PA and MD have some or all of them and none of them have a town of over 50,000 people. I'm thinking maybe it's not me needing the trip. I agree that some areas are lacking where chains are concerned, but as somebody else stated, if you want low carb, just ask. As I said in the original, I've been at it for some time now and in the beginning when you asked for no bread, they looked at you like you were from another planet. Not so today. There's hardly a comment made about it these days because everybody knows why you're asking. The fact is, it was probably better when it was harder. Now, it's too easy to over eat thinking it's all good. The original Atkins book had a section in it on eating too much as a reason for a stall and I think accessibility lends itself to that problem. > > > >I guess then you have an option - Don't eat it. > > > >Great to live in a free country, isn't it? [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > the food is placed just right before snapping any pics. I've NEVER gotten > anything from any restaurant that resembled anything I saw in an ad. nope, and you never will. the food that's in ads barely qualifies as food, as Sue points out in a following post. it's dressed up six ways from sunday to look good for hours under hot lights. ain't no way it's fit for consumption, and ain't no way the folks making minimum wage at the fast food emporiums are going to create anything that even vaguely resembles it. :nope, and you never will. the food that's in ads barely qualifies as :food, as Sue points out in a following post. it's dressed up six ways :from sunday to look good for hours under hot lights. ain't no way it's :fit for consumption, and ain't no way the folks making minimum wage at :the fast food emporiums are going to create anything that even vaguely :resembles it. For the most part, the hero food (the item used on camera...there's also stand-in food used for lighting) is rendered inedible due to various products used in the various techniques that make the food look great for the product shots. There are usually several hero food items waiting in the wings because the hot lights take their toll quickly. Film and print crews tend to have lots of food available on the set to keep them fueled but none of us will touch the hero food after the camera stops rolling! Food shots are laborious and the stylist is under tremendous pressure. It's an art form unto itself! The primary ingredients used in the ad must match the ingredients used in the product that is sold to the consumer. IOW, if a fast food burger doesn't have a slice of onion on it when sold, it can't show one in the ad. There's just a heckuva lot more time and TLC put into the appearance of the photographed items. That's the nature of advertising. There's no way a fast food restaurant can replicate the product prepped by a food stylist. Aloha...Sue > In the Ads it VERY CLEARLY shows > the patty wrapped in a type of leaf lettuce, when in reality it's wrapped in > cheap Iceburg lettuce. The Southern California chain In-n-Out has been serving them that why for very many years, so they are arguably the original source for the practice (no matter Carl/Hardee's claim to be the first). In-n-Out has always used iceberg lettuce, so Carl/Hardee just copied the original. Yup, better lettuce does taste better. Iceberg is pretty close to chewy water flavor-wise. BG, I agree with what you said to a point. I have gone to several Hardee's in my area. I think it depends on if they are out of the leaf lettuce. Yesterday I went to the Hardee's down the street, and it was wrapped in the iceburg lettuce. Today I went to the same hardee's and it was wrapped in that nice, green, leaf lettuce. Odd, huh? :) So try it again:) Kerri 6/10/03 |
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